hi...would like to ask anyone took ACCA exam at KDU? is there a parking space for student at KDU? do u think KDU is a better exam centre than TAR?

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Added on September 7, 2008, 9:43 pmdo they allocate exam centre on a first come first serve basis?

This post has been edited by jonwei: Sep 7 2008, 09:43 PM

Actually not just KSA got this problem, even last time when I attend CKF 3.2 class, same problem. In the class, CKF already scold student and said not book place for other friemds, but they still want to do.

Sometimes, the lecturer can't do anything. So what the admin can do is try to find place for student lo. Like CKF, he will ask that ppl the beg and give place for student if the class already start. If that student don't want to do, CKF will scold him/her lo!

u are currently active and good forumer here. Respect u .

it is because ACCA lowering the f2 paper ,studentsl didn't construct good costing basic in f2(some r pass with luck since mcq)
therefore make f5 become harder
costing is a understanding subject and carry forward subject you cant miss a single piece of knowledge


i suggested to work on hard question when u at f2 level
at f5 level try do works on CIMA PYQ(since cima question is harder)

lol ive experienced the same thing, especially Ms.Menon classes. Once i came 1.5hours early also only can get a seat at the 5th-6th row. i'm ok with it if ppl put their bags and books on the table (showing evidence they came early and just went for breakfast), but im totally against putting just a piece of paper on the table = =. Some people more geng... the night before, they already put papers in the lecture theatre, got see before? = =.

I cannot help but notice students that booked place for their friends who are "purposely late".
I heard some students that are late bcos they went shopping at shopping centres & comes in with slot availabe for them even they are late for > 20 minutes. Try to compare this with student who arrive slightly early / on time but found out all places have either been taken or "booked" again.
Try to understand those who sweat & toil to come from outskirts to have a place but "a single piece of paper" block their entitlement.
The again there are those who really come late (heavy rain, no parking, traffic jam...etc)

Most students who has a knack to book for their friends have low ethical value (by Kohlberg Cognitive Moral development).
These students normally falls in the range of Stage 2 : instrumental & relative where they help their firends to book place but expecting
a future favor in exchange without considering the needs & feeling of the overall class.

They can argue that (Who ask you to come late ?) Is that a proffesional behavior to begin with ?

However there are some lecturers / centres who takes the initiative to ease the problems of "booking culture".

1) Haneef at Mco
I mean he is one if not the most dedicated lecturer around (please notify / suggest one who is better as i would really like to know)
He teach each paper twice per week threrefore no combined class was needed.
Even his revision class was separated into 2 class (fulltimers & part timers apart) He was willing to teach 2 times extra.
Therefore i don't mind the centre charged extra (only him !!!) as every penny was justified

2) Daniel Ho at FTMS
He still conduct his class once per week but if there is any class on weekends / holiday period he will try to separate his class for full timers & part timers (if students ask for it). He don;t mind teach 2 times.

3) Paac college (near KLCC)
If i am not mistaken there have this system of a quota where they limit classroom size to a certain amount. to them profit is not everything as
students comfortableness is one of the priority (to maintain lecturer : student ratio at a healthy level)

I am not against booking during normal class hours BUT PLEASE don't do this during combined classes / peak hours. Thank you to those who gets the message. Please be considerate to those who have no friends to book for themselves / cannot come that early .

Well said. "However there are some lecturers / centres who takes the initiative to ease the problems of "booking culture"." Perhaps u r referring to the management in this case...It is the student and management issue. there is no use comparin between 2 colleges/centre...it is the mgmt/lecturer that should b proactive to understand the prob. Since, u keep on commenting on da same problem, i believe dis issue is getting worse...Some students say we should be tolerant n compromise on this issue or imagining as though we are going 4 concert...but i dun think it is right

Like this lo :
Supply of good lecturers = constant
Demand of ACCA tution providers = ever increasing
Popularity of ACCA = increasing
Centre expansion = only systemathic & FTMS ever increase (substantially).

I just received my acca result letter and exam reg form...how do i register for my exam papers this sitting?by post n attach the bank draft?M'sia post reliable?btw..i am self study and no col to help me to submit my form~

register using online exam entry la......charge directly to credit card

between, i'm another self-studier here....hehe

MASB will be fully compliant to all IFRS at 2012 :
http://www.masb.org.my/index.php?option=co...-2008&Itemid=37
So students at ACCA taking F7 or P2 are advisable to opt for international variant to facilitate & ease transition changes.
It is better to consult with your respective lecturer around.

This post has been edited by Topace111: Sep 11 2008, 06:36 PM

Miss Menon was teaching ICEAW 2 semester ago when I was in her f7 class
Wonder she still teaches it now.
She said whole of p2 syllabus is just a small part of iceaw

Hi, anyone here tried the professional ethics module yet? I don't know y everytime when i finish a particular section, and i press save, i still cannot access next section. It says "to be attempted". Tried for 3-4 times still duno y.. Anyone experiencing same problem?

i agree on what topace111 was commenting on "booking" seats.. most of the time, my friends and i would book place for each other, but usually about 4+ seats, and we seldom come late..

during last sitting when i was attending Philip Woo's P1 revision class, i was so surprised to see that there's few rows in the front being booked by putting all the papers on the table.. i was attending that class alone so i already tried my best to reach KSA one hour before the class , but i was so disappointed that i had to sit at the corner which was so uncomfortable..

BTW, i failed P2 in last sitting, and i'm attending Haneef's P2 class currently, and i could say that he's one of the best lecturer i've ever approached, he's so dedicated, explaining everything in details, and u wont be having any doubt with the standards after so many examples giving by him on an issue. though the fees is quite expensive if compared to other lecturers in the market, but after trying on his class, u'll find that it's so worthy. 6 hours lecture in a week, it's really worthy if compared to 3 hours per week by other lecturer.

PS. topace111, you attended Chin Ann's F8 class last sitting? and attending Haneef's P2 currently? =)

This post has been edited by nobuta: Sep 13 2008, 01:40 PM

I took 3 by 3 approach (ie : f3 - f6 then f7 - f9 then P1 -P3 currently) As i was still young (straight from SPM) i was advised from seniors that 4 by 4 approach works best for diploma holders, degree or over 23, 24 years old.
As i was a very meticulous bargainer so (i will work my hardest if i am under the best lecturer) So instead of following friends around i go against the crowd when i am selecting lecturer (not college only). Therefore my friends are split all over the area depending on sessions took.
I have no problem selecting from F4 to F6 (since very few lecturers around & not "that" difficult yet). Problem starts here :

1) Audit
I have heard countless time during lower levels from other lecturer & students alike this is the killer paper. Then some of my friend told me their anticipated lecturer (Sheila John) then some also voice their admiration for Phillip Woo in KSA. However due to adverse pass rate I decided to take a radical step forward by choosing Chin Ann. I have followed him in lower levels so i was accustomed to his teachings. He is not the type of lecturer who bombards you with past year or thick notes on examples. He will teach you methods on the "techniques" on answering the exam itself like
Wordings, style, format....etc (he also study the lecturer method, trends & articles).
His class was populated by all kind of students from those who failed b4, first timer, hardworker, prize winner hopefuls (if i am not mistaken there are quite a number of sunway student taking their audit there last sitting)

2) F7
I have gone against all my friends wishes by going to hannef at Mco. 75% of my friends go to Joe Fang while remainder studies at KB & FTMS.
I have tried to gather views why they don't pick him & this is their usual answer :
- he doesnt speak mandarin / chinese (so lack communication with those who speak it) no probem with me as i am a christian
- too far apart from other college & bus stop area (normally at pasar seni or medan pasar)
- very expensive fees (I totally agree but financial factor / cost is not my main concern)
All in all he is the best F7 lecturer around IF AND ONLY IF you can bear with his LONG LECTURE (simply means you are a good listener)
I have maintain the same lecturer for P2 (normally people follow the same lecturer for F7 to P2, F5 to P5, f9 to P4...etc)

This post has been edited by Topace111: Sep 14 2008, 11:43 PM

Last time I attend Haneef 2.5 class in SEGI. Ya, I agree with you, Haneef is very good lecturer in P2, expecially FRS part. But I don't like his consol method cos too slow if use it in exam.

From what I'm understand was Haneef explain very detail and can make student very easy to understand during teaching consol. But his method is classic "T" accounts format, so will be very slow in the exam. Unless you are very smart, otherwise very difficult to finish consol question in 60 minutes if using Haneef method to answer.

One more thing, his class too boring until I want to sleep during attend his class.

Anyway, different student need different thing. So may be some student can tahan "boring" during attenf his class.

Not to brag or anything but i felt i have a very strong foundation in calculation methods & techniques.
It was bcos i am one of those who can grind myself with countless PYQ & i can calculate quite speedily if need be.
However i have some difficulties in lower levels in drafting reporting especially part on standards.
Plus i have heard from other students if you follow too closely with a lecturer's tips/ method / formulaes / format you will be stuck on it. (like mine ) You can arrive at the answer rather quickly with short cut solution but with 2 glaring flaws :

1) you either get "full mark or 0" = since not much support from workings you are on a very "thin thread".
If you are supported with working whether (you are slow or not) you will gain some basic marks (1 or 2 from possibly 4)
That is also a risk mitigation technic, short cut calculations only works best if you have "fully grasp the knowledge & idea" behind each transaction.

2) Any twist in scenario or situation (transactions so weird you don't know what is it = provision for unwarranted litigation). Actually if you remember the standards its just the treatment of provision. The 2 words behind it just to throw students off balance.
In academic / real life getting the figure was not so important compared to the reasoning behind it.

In exam it is true that i take longer time to finish the exam (but still on time). My costing lecturer instil a TQM value in me : "get it right the first time". So i don't really need time to "semak balik" the answer since i have checked it thoroughly while doing the question itself. There are students that finish rather quickly (30 minutes from time or 1 hour) but spend rest of the time keep on rechecking the exam sheet with only a few pages of answers. I am too tired to check since i have laden it with workings all over the page.

I recommend to those seeking lecturer to use this SWOT technique. Identify your strength, weakness, oppurnity or threats.
Mine is strong in figures but weak on understanding but now it is already rectified

Ya, I agree with you on this, that's why I always refer to lecturer can balance in both.

For Joe Fang, the method is faster but high risk. Some time, I also worry will lost marks if use his short cut method. Some more he dun cover too much for FRS.

For Haneef, his method too slow. I dun know how strong your figures, but for me, I dun think I can finish the 35m consol question (with supported working and explanation) in 63 min if use Haneef method. And also in Haneef class, I feel very sleepy also.

That is the main reason for me to choose Keith Farmer for P2 cos he is only the lecturer can cover in balance for both FRS and consol. The only problem for Keith Famer was you need to stay by tahan his slang.

Ha Ha, lucky I already pass P2 last sitting, so no need to worry about this thing already.

I agree with your 2 point that his class is indeed boring & his method has no special short cut attached.
However i know a "tried & tested" method but not so popular among students.
Normally in F7 when student encountered any hard / weird transaction they jump straight to the answer sheet, then doing the next transaction & repeat similar process all over again. Therefore the :
1) speed is greatly reduced (when you are used to flipping around the pages, you end up trying >2 hours trying your 1st question.
2) Confidence greatly eroded : you always have this "false confidence" when you finally get everything balance & right but is it ?
In real exam there is no such thing as "answer sheet to refer to". In vertain college, they constantly mocked the student to give them confidence & adaptability during exam hours (Sunway did it i think)

I think i can use Nike slogan here (Just do it) regardless whether you knows it or not. Some just stare at the paper for few minutes doing nothing bcos they did not know one transaction while they know others. Its like sacrifising 15 minutes for 3 marks.
I am quite scare b4 result when most of my friends come & compare answers. Most of them finish with 20 minutes to spare
(mine < 5minutes ). Most of them balance their consol & publicised a/c & cashflow. I got scared already that time since i have not balance any of mine (surprise). When result come out they sms me about their F7 result but i am quite surprised that my marks outscore them all.

In Keith Farmer P2 class, he ask us no need to worry too much if can't balance the figures. The reason was if we can balance, no additional marks will earn. Some more exanimer only interest to know each item inside the consol and the working for the adjustment, but not calculation. He even ask us only calculate 1 time off, if can't balance just leave it and don't spend time to double check.

This is true, cos during exam time management is very important, if spend time to check the calculation, we may be will lost more marks cos not enough time to answer other question.

In conclusion, if can balance not means the answer wiil 100% correct, if can't balance not means we will lost a lot of marks. WE SUPPOSE NOT TO SPEND TOO MUCH TIME FOR CALCULATION AND CHECKING, COS NO ADDITIONAL MARKS CAN EARN.