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kuntaker
post Aug 21 2008, 08:44 AM

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QUOTE(dOuBLeJ @ Aug 18 2008, 05:16 PM)
i'm currently a cat student n i was so suprised tat i passed my t5!
n i only answered 2 1/2 out of 5..
41/100..
unbelievable!
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Gratz lo..^^

this new kind of question really scare lots of candidates lo..^^
Topace111
post Aug 21 2008, 09:04 AM

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I think the pass rate will keep on dropping as the 1st or 2nd papers normally serve as introductory to familiarise students to the exam style & format.
Once that period lapses the examiner will have every pleasure to twist & turn the paper around to make it harder.

However on the plus side, with more exam papers to boot, student will have more oppurnities to familiarise with the paper itself.
I can see a trend in the optional proffesinal papers where the examiners try to maintain the pass rate at 30%
The core proffesional papers have an average 45% to 50% but i expect it will eventually drop to 40%.

Students that was happily hoping papers like financial reporting & audit will eventually becoming easy to pass was devastated here.
Since i have just sat that 2 papers myself, i have notice a very clever tactic used by the examiner to trick the students.
ACCA students have a "knack" to memorise the format & style of exam paper over the years, then they make their own assumption to handle it.
However, this time the examiner mischievously scrambe the order this time around.

F7 : after so many consecutive sitting, they change Qs2 into redrafting the FS & prepare SCE while giving some weird transactions.
Students without proper technic, skills or planning will get a shock & normally spend the rest of the time doing & redoing the QS.
Apart from that QS, Q1 & Q3 was pretty easy enough to score while Q4 & Q5 touching on the surface of standards.

F8 : Every one starting to love Alan Lewin gets the "bombshell" this time. As everyone thought SP qs will be asked they memorise & practice tons of
SP qs & (will spend the 15 minute planning time to draft the 1st question : normally SP). However it turn out to be TOC.
Most student whom cannot adjust & adapt will spend 15 minutes staring at the qs wondering what to do now (they will normally go
from biggrin.gif brows.gif ) to this ( cry.gif hmm.gif rclxub.gif doh.gif ).
Next, is the issue of going concern which they already ask 2 times consecutive, many lecturers including students predict it will never come out
& come out it did brows.gif .

My suggestion is that never trust your lecturer's view or prediction 100% but you can take their advice & guidance. Good lecturers like their students
to constructively debate the lecturer's view to build student's own mental skill. However, this rarely happen especially when there is a lot of students around.
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post Aug 21 2008, 10:00 AM

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Agreed. My Q2 in F7 was my last question, and with just 30 minutes left and faced with a rare style of asking, I honestly started to panic. Tried adjusting for every note that I can understand.

I wonder if, with the significantly lower pass rate esp F5, is the whole course getting tougher, and that they are trying to pass as little as they can
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I'm planning to attend FTMS P4 August Class. I noticed that FTMS will provide catch up class, just wan to check the catch up class can cover all the syllabus that was taught on July ? The lecturer teaching method for the catch up class is "Express" or will same like the normal class speed ?



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post Aug 21 2008, 01:09 PM

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Wow,pass rates look pretty low this time around. Apart frm the odd few that went up (surprisingly P4 as well,lol), it's pretty much all low.
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post Aug 21 2008, 03:57 PM

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Hi,

I want to take F8 and F9. Cannot find the text book for F9 at the major book stores laaa (am self studying). Anyone selling their textbook or notes that I can use???? or can help me buy one from their college?

Thanks


Added on August 21, 2008, 4:00 pmJust to share my experience:

In the previous June08 exam, I took F7 and self studied. Did go to Joe Fang's revision and find his technique really helpful. I passed with 61 and was quite surprised because I only focused on the doing the accounts (do a lot of exercise on this) and not much on the standards. The standards I seriously goreng one (because have to work and got baby to jaga so not much time to sit and study). But I make sure my accounts I do properly laaa... So maybe... if you not so good in writing essays you can focus on the figures laa..

Just my 2 sen


This post has been edited by barkhan: Aug 21 2008, 04:00 PM
Topace111
post Aug 21 2008, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(barkhan @ Aug 21 2008, 03:57 PM)
Hi,

I want to take F8 and F9. Cannot find the text book for F9 at the major book stores laaa (am self studying). Anyone selling their textbook or notes that I can use???? or can help me buy one from their college?

Thanks


Added on August 21, 2008, 4:00 pmJust to share my experience:

In the previous June08 exam, I took F7 and self studied. Did go to Joe Fang's revision and find his technique really helpful. I passed with 61 and was quite surprised because I only focused on the doing the accounts (do a lot of exercise on this) and not much on the standards. The standards I seriously goreng one (because have to work and got baby to jaga so not much time to sit and study). But I make sure my accounts I do properly laaa... So maybe... if you not so good in writing essays you can focus on the figures laa..

Just my 2 sen
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F7 still can "bluff" your way since its still 75% calculation but don't try it at P2 (I haven't met a single person dare to utter this word at P2).
P1 & P3 you can still "bluff" but requires a reasonable level of mastery in english to get through.
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QUOTE(barkhan @ Aug 21 2008, 03:57 PM)
Hi,

I want to take F8 and F9. Cannot find the text book for F9 at the major book stores laaa (am self studying). Anyone selling their textbook or notes that I can use???? or can help me buy one from their college?

Thanks


Added on August 21, 2008, 4:00 pmJust to share my experience:

In the previous June08 exam, I took F7 and self studied. Did go to Joe Fang's revision and find his technique really helpful. I passed with 61 and was quite surprised because I only focused on the doing the accounts (do a lot of exercise on this) and not much on the standards. The standards I seriously goreng one (because have to work and got baby to jaga so not much time to sit and study). But I make sure my accounts I do properly laaa... So maybe... if you not so good in writing essays you can focus on the figures laa..

Just my 2 sen
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For F9 you can try this:
http://www.opentuition.com/acca/index.php
you have to sign up first though, it is free anyway.
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post Aug 21 2008, 06:29 PM

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is there any tarc students, taking 1st yr adv dip in FA?
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hi. i got something to ask about the adminstrative review... is it able to get pass for the subject failed at 49 marks. as my friend failed 2 of the subjects at 49 marks!... she is so sad aboutt it. urgently.. need to tell her what to do next?... thanks..
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post Aug 21 2008, 10:16 PM

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I think the problem with F5 low passing rates are the mentallity of students, especially those taking F4,F5,F6, who are fresh from CAT or ACCA part 1.

In Sunway College, the passing rate for F5 is 51%, and most of those who passed was the batch that taken F5 together with F8 and F9, as they had already taken F4, F6, and F7. Most failures comes from the batch fresh from CAT with combination of F4,F5,F6. It appears that somehow, after getting used to ACCA part 2, especially the experience in F7, it really helps alot in developing the maturity to attempt F5. In fact, I also find F5 one of the easiest paper in Part 2.

There are very few who took 4 subjects, which includes F5 with P3, and their comment was F5 is just too simple. They did not attend classes, and can still achieve 80+. Reason is because, they said, after completing F4,F6,F7,F8, and currently taking F5,F9,P2,P3, looking at F5 syllabus, its just a walk in the park.

Therefore, to those who find difficulty in F5, i think it is a good idea to take some other established subjects in Part 2, and attempt F5 after that.
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Since the "mentality" of F5 has been addressed i will try to point out what the examiner said :
1. The ratio of calculative : theory = 55% : 45%
2. The examiner views "evidence of some poor time management" among students :
- using slow method to handle linear programming
- write too much for little marks
3. Problem = "The question that was missed out most often (if one was) was question 3. This is the “performance management” question and the
core of the paper."

Solution = "This is a core topic. It is what separates F2 from F5. In F2 candidates have to perform calculations – and that’s it. No interpretation at all. In F5 some calculation will be required but (and crucially) some interpretation will be expected. This can not be avoided."

4) "Poor layout is not acceptable; (including excessive crossing out, unlabelled workings, no tabulation, “essay” style answers for numerical calculations are all typical problems). "

Although not mandatory but understanding examiner's style & preferred technics is necessary to (at least pass) handle the paper.
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QUOTE(Topace111 @ Aug 21 2008, 04:26 PM)
F7 still can "bluff" your way since its still 75% calculation  but don't try it at P2 (I haven't met a single person dare to utter this word at P2).
P1 & P3 you can still "bluff" but requires a reasonable level of mastery in english to get through.
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I'm only saying this with regards to F7 lah. My friend also said cannot do this with P2. examiners are really particular with the essay questions for P2. Have to answer if not they give zero.(that's what my friend say because her lecturer examiner)

thanks for the info on F9 blackart

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QUOTE(Topace111 @ Aug 21 2008, 04:26 PM)
F7 still can "bluff" your way since its still 75% calculation  but don't try it at P2 (I haven't met a single person dare to utter this word at P2).
P1 & P3 you can still "bluff" but requires a reasonable level of mastery in english to get through.
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I got some friends who told me that if you barely made it at F7(50s marks and you just bang for the calculation), prepare for the time of your life in P2.
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QUOTE(Kaerna @ Aug 22 2008, 03:25 PM)
I got some friends who told me that if you barely made it at F7(50s marks and you just bang for the calculation), prepare for the time of your life in P2.
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for p2, the calculation part is the conso question only. others mainly are theoratical stuff. so have to be good in explaining standards
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hai

i wanted to continue study my ACCA part time in singapore next year..
anyone here studying at singapore?
need some guildlines when i half work and study in singapore..

there is some question puzzled me as i browse for tuition provider in singapore..
- i have to register as international student or normal student as i'm working at singapore?
- i saw the SAA college in singapore stated that we have to register at ICPAS and pay the student fees every year,it was only when i'm study ACCA or even until i finish ACCA and work.but i didn't see other college in singapore require student to register with ICPAS..
is the ICPAS is compulsory?

thanks in advance if anyone can help me..thanks.. smile.gif


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post Aug 22 2008, 08:07 PM

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Hi...everybody....

Anyone have F8, P2 & P3 notes for sales?????


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QUOTE(micmic288 @ Aug 20 2008, 10:45 PM)
What is wrong with acca? Set the passing rate freaking low, keep on changing the syllabus and make so many students fail and fail and fail! Is it better to go uk?

If i ever know this situation, i should take degree earlier on
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Added on August 22, 2008, 8:36 pm
QUOTE(lawrence1437 @ Aug 20 2008, 10:50 PM)
GOOD rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
but depend on wat position u took tongue.gif
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what position should take?

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post Aug 22 2008, 09:07 PM

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i guess wouldn't hurt to share my marks here.

p1 - 56
p2 - 66
p4 - 73
p7- 54

Damn grateful I passed all of it. XD finally can work, and achieve my personal goal of graduating in 2 1/2 years.
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QUOTE(ThanatosSwiftfire @ Aug 22 2008, 09:07 PM)
i guess wouldn't hurt to share my marks here.

p1 - 56
p2 - 66
p4 - 73
p7- 54

Damn grateful I passed all of it. XD finally can work, and achieve my personal goal of graduating in 2 1/2 years.
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wow,thats a record there...where do u went(class) for P7&P4?

anyone of u joining andrew pang F5 classes,where did stop teachin?at which topic/chapter??

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