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enson1985
post Aug 19 2008, 11:21 AM

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Any recommendation where to study F8?
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post Aug 19 2008, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(samseiko @ Aug 19 2008, 10:01 AM)
guys i wanna ask if you wan to be an auditor must you take advanced audit & assurance (p7) ?

or you just need ACCA qualification to be an auditor...

i mean the kind of auditor can sign on audit work not the one who being employed to check on petty matters....
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I have heard from my lecturer that unless you want to spend most of your life doing audit work there is very little point in
taking P7 (since its mostly theoretical in nature).
It depends on which kind of auditor you which to become :

External auditor (ie : KPMG, PWC, E&Y, Deloitte)
- its regulated so you need to be accountacy body member (MIA)
- most didn't stay long on this job as the pay is low, long working hours & tedious work.
- it was actually a foundation or platform for you to embark on a better prospect ot to build your experience to fulfill the PER.
- Some will eventually join other comp for better job positions or rise internally to become a senior staff, consultant or even partner.
- It is to build rapport with other staff of other companies that you have audited (to gain job employment oppurnities)
- Having an ACCA will be more than enough since experience is the one that really counts.

Internal auditor (within your own company)
- its not regulated (as long as you can convince the boss to hire, anyone can become one)
- Although not mandatory but being a member of Institute of Internal Auditors (IIA) will be a bonus advantage in your boss eyes.
- This is the job where they will eventually blame anything on you (if you did not check properly or miss something like fraud) since
the employer pay your wages but they are protected in some way.

Unless you want to become an expert in audit fields, you can consider P7. Otherwise F8 is more than enough.
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post Aug 19 2008, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(enson1985 @ Aug 19 2008, 11:21 AM)
Any recommendation where to study F8?
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Philip Woo (Kasturi), Sheila (Mc Orange)
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post Aug 19 2008, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(enson1985 @ Aug 19 2008, 11:21 AM)
Any recommendation where to study F8?
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It depends on what kind of lecturer you preferred :
Sheila John : She has many thick notes which will be helpful but she will just browse through which may lack the details in explanation of understanding.

Phillip Woo : He conduct class in weekend (normally up to 6 hours at a go). Class packed like sardin but a veteran lecturer who is also a key executive of a company. He can give you a lot of practical example & questions to try out. He like sto conduct mock test

Chin Ann : I have heard that some students that had failed under the 2 above lecturer went to study under him & finall passed.
He is a very dedicated lecturer & encoureage students to actuall write out the answer to familiarise with the technique & examiner style.
After much deliberation I choose him for F8 & finally pass it at 1 go.

His class was the least cramped of all.
Sheila & phillip class can strectch to over >100, Chin Ann will normally max 50.
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post Aug 19 2008, 11:49 AM

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seriously who can i depend on for P7? i am so angry with paper ady but cannot help it to take this again coz i cldn't make myself to change paper. anyone pass P7 plz icon_question.gif ....

*Topace111 - i was miss sheila P1 student last two sitting. all i can say she is a very hardworking lecturer taking trouble to find URL for case study like bodyshop, balfour beatty...loreal....many more...note a bit bulky but she will highlight the key area. this paper need a little bit time to understand sarbanese oxley, corporate gov, ethic...report from turnbull... just take some time to read is enough....

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carlosandy
post Aug 19 2008, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(Topace111 @ Aug 19 2008, 11:06 AM)
Actually i never consider to change lecturer (since i have a conduct a thorough analysis b4 eventually choosing him).
I was just frustrated over KSA crowded sardine environment.
Parmindar is fine but sometimes he can be "over animated" & gone off topic for certain times.

Speaking of CKF, will he be conducting any tax classes in near future ?

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I agree with you for Parmindar sometimes "over animated" & "gone off topic". But you no need to worry too much, as he can finish the syllabus on time. You can see a lot of extra class coming soon under his time table.

For gone off topic. Actually not just Parmindar, but other lecturers also will do that. If you got chance to attend lecturer like CKF and Philip Woo, then you will know they talk more off topic than Parmindar. The main reason was they want to tell us some funny story to make us won't so sleepy in the class.

For CKF, I think he will conduct class in near future, but I'm no sure when he will do that. When he was happy, I think he will come back to conduct the class. So may be urs try to email to him and ask him come back to teach P6 la. When more student email to him, the chance he come back will very high.
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post Aug 19 2008, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(San14 @ Aug 19 2008, 10:28 AM)
Hi guys,i'm new here...
just want to ask about the exam centre..
i heard from a lecturer said during exam time if less candidates with the exam centre will easily to get pass,is it true? hmm.gif
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it may be a myth or fact...i think both, to say that u are competing with other candidates answer script which is the best maybe (if that so, then sunway exam centre may have the lowest pass rate if all candidates in exam hall is terer..yet most of them pass), to say that less candidates, easy for marker to mark ur script with less emotional of the market itself bcos compare to other exam centre which have to mark over 1k script i.e. sunway,uitm,unity ( but yet, if we did bad in our exam still fail no matter where the exam centre is)..so i dun know..the good thing is that we must do our best..although there is some rumours flying around with quota,with markup marks which strongly denied by the ACCA since it went into structured process of exam marking script..if i not mistaken, if ur marks around 40-49 they will mark for second time and discuss with the exam committee (included is the examiner) on whether this candidate should pass or not based on script written.. laugh.gif

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QUOTE(HBK-reloaded @ Aug 19 2008, 12:17 PM)
f i not mistaken, if ur marks around 40-49 they will mark for second time and discuss with the exam committee (included is the examiner) on whether this candidate should pass or not based on script written.. laugh.gif
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I doubt that....or else I should have passed already mad.gif
Btw are you sure that P2 has major changes in syllabus?I don't really want to go back to attend the classes again....
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post Aug 19 2008, 01:19 PM

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p2 syllabus has a major changes in groups n IAS 39.... so pandai2
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post Aug 19 2008, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(Byrop @ Aug 19 2008, 01:19 PM)
p2 syllabus has a major changes in groups n IAS 39.... so pandai2
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yeah. i'm also planning to take P2 again although i have attended it twice cry.gif
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doh.gif shucks, I guess I've no choice.Back to the grindhouse then sad.gif
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post Aug 19 2008, 02:27 PM

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sigh...wat a time to change da standards
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Congrats to those who passed...
For those who failed with a little discrepancies..
Try again next sittings...
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post Aug 19 2008, 07:35 PM

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QUOTE(HBK-reloaded @ Aug 19 2008, 12:17 PM)
it may be a myth or fact...i think both, to say that u are competing with other candidates answer script which is the best maybe (if that so, then sunway exam centre may have the lowest pass rate if all candidates in exam hall is terer..yet most of them pass), to say that less candidates, easy for marker to mark ur script with less emotional of the market itself bcos compare to other exam centre which have to mark over 1k script i.e. sunway,uitm,unity ( but yet, if we did bad in our exam still fail no matter where the exam centre is)..so i dun know..the good thing is that we must do our best..although there is some rumours flying around with quota,with markup marks which strongly denied by the ACCA since it went into structured process of exam marking script..if i not mistaken, if ur marks around 40-49 they will mark for second time and discuss with the exam committee (included is the examiner) on whether this candidate should pass or not based on script written.. laugh.gif
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Thanks for your information, icon_rolleyes.gif actually my exam centre need to take 25 mins travel from home.By the way,there is a exam centre near to my house which only take 5 mins to reach [TAR]..i think i have to change back to TAR, waste a lot of time have to travel so far....nervous some more : wink.gif
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post Aug 19 2008, 11:15 PM

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Anyone who took F7 last sitting under Haneef kind enough to borrow the notes for me to photocopy? Especially on the standards part. The lecturer i'm under currently teaches based on examples & there's no explanation of the theory in the notes, so i find it a bit hard to study. I think it's better to read on the theory of the standard & then only move on to the examples depicting the standard. Pls PM me icon_question.gif
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post Aug 20 2008, 01:05 AM

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QUOTE(San14 @ Aug 19 2008, 10:28 AM)
Hi guys,i'm new here...
just want to ask about the exam centre..
i heard from a lecturer said during exam time if less candidates with the exam centre will easily to get pass,is it true? hmm.gif
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false. tongue.gif
lesser candidates will not make u easier to pass, but makes u more easier to get high marks,
the standard they set is there, u din reach the standard they still failed u no matter wat , the marker not only mark the area u exam, however, if u competitors are low standard.. and compare with them u are obviously higher standard,
the marks u get will be higher... a lot tongue.gif
My college is a real example...
few of my clsmate went back to their kampung to sit for exam,
we are almost same same std 1 hehe ... as we pass together and failed together offen .. and the marks are almost same tongue.gif the mock exam marks are in similar range too...
ok, i still remember, my p3 get 64 in jb, my fren in his kampung with 10 competitors and 2 absent donno how many are sleepin get 75 in p3, but another fren .. of coz he say he din study i donno wat lah ~ in his kampung he get 36 lor,
still failed no matter wat tongue.gif
maybe if ur marks near to pass it might be easier to pass in this situation ..
but still failed u if u kena in ur exam tongue.gif
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post Aug 20 2008, 02:00 PM

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anyone knows whether any changes in F7?
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post Aug 20 2008, 03:25 PM

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hi there..

just curious to know that all those new born ACCA Affiliate will go which firm to work? medium or big4?

im still in dilemma in choosing job for myself. Btw, i'm new born ACCA Affiliate too.. hehe tongue.gif

pls enlighten me on this matter.. thanks in advance! rclxms.gif

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QUOTE(dreamerJD @ Aug 19 2008, 11:15 PM)
Anyone who took F7 last sitting under Haneef kind enough to borrow the notes for me to photocopy? Especially on the standards part. The lecturer i'm under currently teaches based on examples & there's no explanation of the theory in the notes, so i find it a bit hard to study. I think it's better to read on the theory of the standard & then only move on to the examples depicting the standard. Pls PM me  icon_question.gif
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Who's the lecturer? I'm really curious
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post Aug 20 2008, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(babylck @ Aug 20 2008, 03:25 PM)
hi there..

just curious to know that all those new born ACCA Affiliate will go which firm to work? medium or big4?

im still in dilemma in choosing job for myself. Btw, i'm new born ACCA Affiliate too.. hehe tongue.gif

pls enlighten me on this matter.. thanks in advance!  rclxms.gif
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study CFA rclxms.gif

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