QUOTE(Topace111 @ Sep 8 2008, 02:22 PM)
I cannot help but notice students that booked place for their friends who are "purposely late".
I heard some students that are late bcos they went shopping at shopping centres & comes in with slot availabe for them even they are late for > 20 minutes. Try to compare this with student who arrive slightly early / on time but found out all places have either been taken or "booked" again.
Try to understand those who sweat & toil to come from outskirts to have a place but "a single piece of paper" block their entitlement.
The again there are those who really come late (heavy rain, no parking, traffic jam...etc)
Most students who has a knack to book for their friends have low ethical value (by Kohlberg Cognitive Moral development).
These students normally falls in the range of Stage 2 : instrumental & relative where they help their firends to book place but expecting
a future favor in exchange without considering the needs & feeling of the overall class.
They can argue that (Who ask you to come late ?) Is that a proffesional behavior to begin with ?
However there are some lecturers / centres who takes the initiative to ease the problems of "booking culture".
1) Haneef at Mco
I mean he is one if not the most dedicated lecturer around (please notify / suggest one who is better as i would really like to know)
He teach each paper twice per week threrefore no combined class was needed.
Even his revision class was separated into 2 class (fulltimers & part timers apart) He was willing to teach 2 times extra.
Therefore i don't mind the centre charged extra (only him !!!) as every penny was justified
2) Daniel Ho at FTMS
He still conduct his class once per week but if there is any class on weekends / holiday period he will try to separate his class for full timers & part timers (if students ask for it). He don;t mind teach 2 times.
3) Paac college (near KLCC)
If i am not mistaken there have this system of a quota where they limit classroom size to a certain amount. to them profit is not everything as
students comfortableness is one of the priority (to maintain lecturer : student ratio at a healthy level)
I am not against booking during normal class hours BUT PLEASE don't do this during combined classes / peak hours. Thank you to those who gets the message. Please be considerate to those who have no friends to book for themselves / cannot come that early .
Well said. "However there are some lecturers / centres who takes the initiative to ease the problems of "booking culture"." Perhaps u r referring to the management in this case...It is the student and management issue. there is no use comparin between 2 colleges/centre...it is the mgmt/lecturer that should b proactive to understand the prob. Since, u keep on commenting on da same problem, i believe dis issue is getting worse...Some students say we should be tolerant n compromise on this issue or imagining as though we are going 4 concert...but i dun think it is rightI heard some students that are late bcos they went shopping at shopping centres & comes in with slot availabe for them even they are late for > 20 minutes. Try to compare this with student who arrive slightly early / on time but found out all places have either been taken or "booked" again.
Try to understand those who sweat & toil to come from outskirts to have a place but "a single piece of paper" block their entitlement.
The again there are those who really come late (heavy rain, no parking, traffic jam...etc)
Most students who has a knack to book for their friends have low ethical value (by Kohlberg Cognitive Moral development).
These students normally falls in the range of Stage 2 : instrumental & relative where they help their firends to book place but expecting
a future favor in exchange without considering the needs & feeling of the overall class.
They can argue that (Who ask you to come late ?) Is that a proffesional behavior to begin with ?
However there are some lecturers / centres who takes the initiative to ease the problems of "booking culture".
1) Haneef at Mco
I mean he is one if not the most dedicated lecturer around (please notify / suggest one who is better as i would really like to know)
He teach each paper twice per week threrefore no combined class was needed.
Even his revision class was separated into 2 class (fulltimers & part timers apart) He was willing to teach 2 times extra.
Therefore i don't mind the centre charged extra (only him !!!) as every penny was justified
2) Daniel Ho at FTMS
He still conduct his class once per week but if there is any class on weekends / holiday period he will try to separate his class for full timers & part timers (if students ask for it). He don;t mind teach 2 times.
3) Paac college (near KLCC)
If i am not mistaken there have this system of a quota where they limit classroom size to a certain amount. to them profit is not everything as
students comfortableness is one of the priority (to maintain lecturer : student ratio at a healthy level)
I am not against booking during normal class hours BUT PLEASE don't do this during combined classes / peak hours. Thank you to those who gets the message. Please be considerate to those who have no friends to book for themselves / cannot come that early .
Sep 8 2008, 05:29 PM

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