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carlosandy
post Nov 19 2008, 07:03 PM

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QUOTE(Rvelos @ Nov 19 2008, 08:47 AM)
Very very good comment!! I agree. I'm not ashamed of telling others that I go outside for some papers. I highly regard the experience that some outside lecturers have!!
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I STRONGLY ADVISE U NOT GO TO OTHER COLLEGE COS ALL THESE KSA MCORANGE LOW STD AND WILL AFFECT UR CV
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post Nov 19 2008, 07:08 PM

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Today I heard that people say auditors are petty, particular, calculative and analytical. In this thread, it is proven true.
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IMHO, according to one of my friends who's busy applying for jobs recently, he's so disappointed as he had been rejected by PWC, though he's a brilliant student and score avg marks of 70+ for all the papers done so far. However, according to him, his friends who's from sunway had been successfully gone for interview at EY and PWC.. even Philip Woo did mention in his class before that Sunway's management has done a good job in getting a job for their students..

So, now my friends hope to seek alternative to get into Big4 by "guanxi" perhaps.. hahaha..

I've been following this thread for quite some while and i found there're lotz of argument here.. Isn't that we should discuss something more value-added than arguing over non-value added thingy..

IMO, though experienced lecturer is important, but sometimes the studying environment does matter.. as well as your own effort.. Talking about the friend mentioned earlier, he is studying all papers in KSA throughout CAT and ACCA due to scholarship granted. He follow whichever lecturer available but end of the days, he scored much higher than me ( i was rushing here and there for the "recommended" lecturer in town) .. Sometimes, he even complained that some "recommended/experienced" lecturers are being too thereotical, perhaps due to over-focus in exam.

On the moment, we should focus on coming exam and sharing knowledge learned instead of tremendous argument on the same topic over and over again..

And again, i'd like to provide some advice to someone who appear to be stubborn here, Everyone holds a choice in their life. For those who seek for advice, we should only give them advice and guide them, but not to force them to accept your personal stances.

and PS. we should be nice to everyone, especially to those who's studying the same course with us. there is a number of courses out there but yet we choose ACCA, it's FATE!
personally, i dont think we should critisize about others but only do your best.

PEACE!! Good Luck to everyone.. Do your best!
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post Nov 19 2008, 07:16 PM

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QUOTE(Raymond_ACCA @ Nov 19 2008, 05:38 PM)
F7 and P2 exam same day if im not wrong. Btw, some of my classmates took F4,F6,F7,F8. Then F5,F9,P2,P3. During F5,F9,P2,P3, they say they focus on P2 and P3 only, coz they find F5 too simple. ( in the end 1 of them got 80 for F5, and another 90 for F9 = =). They are from Sunway, i think u ask them to give u this combination, they might allow. Afterall, ur the one sitting for exams smile.gif. If they discourage u, show them that u have good track record, and u can handle it XD
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Is F7 and P2 exam on the same time?


Added on November 19, 2008, 7:20 pm
QUOTE(carlosandy @ Nov 19 2008, 07:03 PM)
I STRONGLY ADVISE U NOT GO TO OTHER COLLEGE COS ALL THESE KSA MCORANGE LOW STD AND WILL AFFECT UR CV
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I guess that is not necessary already smile.gif It will start the Sunway vs KL colleges again sweat.gif

This post has been edited by karhoe: Nov 19 2008, 07:37 PM
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post Nov 19 2008, 07:40 PM

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QUOTE(shiningstar101 @ Nov 19 2008, 07:15 PM)
IMHO, according to one of my friends who's busy applying for jobs recently, he's so disappointed as he had been rejected by PWC, though he's a brilliant student and score avg marks of 70+ for all the papers done so far. However, according to him, his friends who's from sunway had been successfully gone for interview at EY and PWC.. even Philip Woo did mention in his class before that Sunway's management has done a good job in getting a job for their students..

So, now my friends hope to seek alternative to get into Big4 by "guanxi" perhaps.. hahaha..

I've been following this thread for quite some while and i found there're lotz of argument here.. Isn't that we should discuss something more value-added than arguing over non-value added thingy..

IMO, though experienced lecturer is important, but sometimes the studying environment does matter.. as well as your own effort.. Talking about the friend mentioned earlier, he is studying all papers in KSA throughout CAT and ACCA due to scholarship granted. He follow whichever lecturer available but end of the days, he scored much higher than me ( i was rushing here and there for the "recommended" lecturer in town) .. Sometimes, he even complained that some "recommended/experienced" lecturers are being too thereotical, perhaps due to over-focus in exam.

On the moment, we should focus on coming exam and sharing knowledge learned instead of tremendous argument on the same topic over and over again..

And again, i'd like to provide some advice to someone who appear to be stubborn here, Everyone holds a choice in their life. For those who seek for advice, we should only give them advice and guide them, but not to force them to accept your personal stances.

and PS. we should be nice to everyone, especially to those who's studying the same course with us. there is a number of courses out there but yet we choose ACCA, it's FATE! 
personally, i dont think we should critisize about others but only do your best.

PEACE!! Good Luck to everyone.. Do your best!
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I would like to say whether you can successfully enter into Big 4 sometime will be depend in your luck oso.

3 years ago, I got 1 friend grad ACCA from Sunway, he try to apply all the Big 4 but fail to get it. After he is working for 1 year audit in medium audit firm, then he apply KPMG, baru can get it.

Last year, I got 1 friend grad from TARC without ACCA Grad, she try to apply EY, finally can get in. So what your can said?

I know Sunway student got opportunity to go in Big 4, but also depend on their luck. If yours thinking want to joint Big 4, then go to study in Sunway, then I can say STUPID.

I don't have a objection if people want to enjoy college life to study in Sunway. Earlier I already said Sunway and KL college also got advantages and disadvantages. So depend on what you want to consider college. I'm not like that Sunway BIG FANS said " Study ACCA Sunway is a 1st choice". As I said b4, if you prefer study environmet then go to Sunway (may be TARC also), but if prefer lecturer, then go to KSA/MCO.

Imagine if you like me study part time for all 14 papers, how you go to study in Sunway? Some more I always prefer quality lecturer, so KSA/MCO is good for me.

Lastly, as my working experience in a lot of commercial firm and need to inform urs, all the boss won't interest in your CV if you are ACCA grad.
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Finally after 10 days spent on P2 i finally crack the code of utilising maximum marks.
(For those already knew don't spoil the party allright tongue.gif ).

The marks allocated for question 1 (50 marks) is very interesting : (assuming its not cash flow)
Guess what even if your statement on financial position or comprehensive income was totally wrong you won't be penalised that heavily
as long as you got strong workings to back it up. Even if your financial statements figures are all wrong you can get through.

However if you put less emphasise on workings but concentrate on the form of financial statements only, failure is inevitable.
Look at the marking scheme for the past 2 sitting you will understand.

No wonder a few senior friends of mine who boast their superiority in calcultions in P2 has to resit the paper together with me. Calculations alone will
definitely not get you through P2 unless you get them all correct.

I don't think the standard is that difficult but need extra time to crack it open. With only 3 hours........try the best lo.
You won't see the same question being asked twice in P2 compared to F7.
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post Nov 19 2008, 09:04 PM

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Hi everyone,Im Stevie. It is so nice to be here,I am currently studying in Disted Pg,ACCA part1..Gonna ask that is it very easy to pass F1 - F3 ?

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any1 hav tips from kaplan and BPP's side?
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post Nov 19 2008, 09:57 PM

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QUOTE(karhoe @ Nov 19 2008, 07:16 PM)
Is F7 and P2 exam on the same time?
All ACCA exams are standard time. 3pm in Malaysia.

This means that if F7 and P2 is in the same day, both will be conducted at 3pm.
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post Nov 19 2008, 10:13 PM

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post Nov 19 2008, 10:26 PM

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QUOTE(Topace111 @ Nov 19 2008, 08:51 PM)
Finally after 10 days spent on P2 i finally crack the code of utilising maximum marks.
(For those already knew don't spoil the party allright  tongue.gif ).

The marks allocated for question 1 (50 marks) is very interesting : (assuming its not cash flow)
Guess what even if your statement on financial position or comprehensive income was totally wrong you won't be penalised that heavily
as long as you got strong workings to back it up. Even if your financial statements figures are all wrong you can get through.

However if you put less emphasise on workings but concentrate on the form of financial statements only, failure is inevitable.
Look at the marking scheme for the past 2 sitting you will understand.

No wonder a few senior friends of mine who boast their superiority in calcultions in P2 has to resit the paper together with me. Calculations alone will
definitely not get you through P2 unless you get them all correct.

I don't think the standard is that difficult but need extra time to crack it open. With only 3 hours........try the best lo.
You won't see the same question being asked twice in P2 compared to F7.
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I think it is very hard to say whether P2 is hard or not hard.

Just like me, I think will fail cos done not well in P2, but when result out, I Pass.

May be I advise yours keep on writting what ever you know during exam. Even if you don't do the adjustment for the consol, but as long as you write then can earn marks.
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QUOTE(Raymond_ACCA @ Nov 19 2008, 09:57 PM)
All ACCA exams are standard time. 3pm in Malaysia.

This means that if F7 and P2 is in the same day, both will be conducted at 3pm.
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That means taking F7 and P2 on the same semester is impossible right?
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post Nov 19 2008, 11:04 PM

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QUOTE(karhoe @ Nov 19 2008, 10:51 PM)
That means taking F7 and P2 on the same semester is impossible right?
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If any paper in same day, then you must pass the lower level paper 1st.

I think you after finish the lower level paper, at least pass up to most difficult paper F8, then baru think P level paper.

Both P level paper is not easy as you thinking, expecially P2.
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Anyone taking P7? rclxm9.gif
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any1 hav tips from kaplan and BPP's side?or other parties tips also can..mind to share it here?...
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QUOTE(francisbacon7 @ Nov 19 2008, 11:52 PM)
any1 hav tips from kaplan and BPP's side?or other parties tips also can..mind to share it here?...
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It had been posted up by someone else try search it happy.gif
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QUOTE(shiningstar101 @ Nov 19 2008, 07:15 PM)
IMHO, according to one of my friends who's busy applying for jobs recently, he's so disappointed as he had been rejected by PWC, though he's a brilliant student and score avg marks of 70+ for all the papers done so far. However, according to him, his friends who's from sunway had been successfully gone for interview at EY and PWC.. even Philip Woo did mention in his class before that Sunway's management has done a good job in getting a job for their students..

So, now my friends hope to seek alternative to get into Big4 by "guanxi" perhaps.. hahaha..

I've been following this thread for quite some while and i found there're lotz of argument here.. Isn't that we should discuss something more value-added than arguing over non-value added thingy..

IMO, though experienced lecturer is important, but sometimes the studying environment does matter.. as well as your own effort.. Talking about the friend mentioned earlier, he is studying all papers in KSA throughout CAT and ACCA due to scholarship granted. He follow whichever lecturer available but end of the days, he scored much higher than me ( i was rushing here and there for the "recommended" lecturer in town) .. Sometimes, he even complained that some "recommended/experienced" lecturers are being too thereotical, perhaps due to over-focus in exam.

On the moment, we should focus on coming exam and sharing knowledge learned instead of tremendous argument on the same topic over and over again..

And again, i'd like to provide some advice to someone who appear to be stubborn here, Everyone holds a choice in their life. For those who seek for advice, we should only give them advice and guide them, but not to force them to accept your personal stances.

and PS. we should be nice to everyone, especially to those who's studying the same course with us. there is a number of courses out there but yet we choose ACCA, it's FATE! 
personally, i dont think we should critisize about others but only do your best.

PEACE!! Good Luck to everyone.. Do your best!
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I like your comment.. There is no absolute advantage in sunway than in other colleges in job application. but in terms of probability, ya, i believe in higher probability.

Carsoandy and I look from different angles, thus with different conclusion. I respect his view.

exams are important, ya, but if can help the juniors know how different colleges can fit them, it will be great. I believe the arguments are constructive.

At the end, the "free market" will decide.


Added on November 20, 2008, 6:13 pm
QUOTE(carlosandy @ Nov 19 2008, 07:40 PM)
I would like to say whether you can successfully enter into Big 4 sometime will be depend in your luck oso.

3 years ago, I got 1 friend grad ACCA from Sunway, he try to apply all the Big 4 but fail to get it. After he is working for 1 year audit in medium audit firm, then he apply KPMG, baru can get it.

Last year, I got 1 friend grad from TARC without ACCA Grad, she try to apply EY, finally can get in. So what your can said?

I know Sunway student got opportunity to go in Big 4, but also depend on their luck. If yours thinking want to joint Big 4, then go to study in Sunway, then I can say STUPID.

I don't have a objection if people want to enjoy college life to study in Sunway. Earlier I already said Sunway and KL college also got advantages and disadvantages. So depend on what you want to consider college. I'm not like that Sunway BIG FANS said " Study ACCA Sunway is a 1st choice". As I said b4, if you prefer study environmet then go to Sunway (may be TARC also), but if prefer lecturer, then go to KSA/MCO.

Imagine if you like me study part time for all 14 papers, how you go to study in Sunway? Some more I always prefer quality lecturer, so KSA/MCO is good for me.

Lastly, as my working experience in a lot of commercial firm and need to inform urs, all the boss won't interest in your CV if you are ACCA grad.
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My last comment on this issue:

1) You are bringing out exceptional cases I suppose.

2) Lecturers in KL are experienced but Sunway lecturers zre also good.

3) There are thousands who share this view, taking ACCA in Sunway is our first choice. Carsoandy is a part-timer, so her choice is affected by other factors.

4) The last point is definitely "OUT", please don't make nonsense. If CV is not important, then just write I'm an ACCA graduate on a piece of paper and send in. See you will get reply or not. CV helps you to get interviews. Interviews will determine you get a job or not. If your CV is not good then most probably you won't have a chance to be interviewed.



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post Nov 20 2008, 06:21 PM

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If study in Sunway, will get a cert from Sunway? I mean, as an ACCA grad, how would they know if ur from Sunway or not? Or do u send your CV to Sunway management and ask them to send it for u?
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QUOTE(Raymond_ACCA @ Nov 20 2008, 06:21 PM)
If study in Sunway, will get a cert from Sunway? I mean, as an ACCA grad, how would they know if ur from Sunway or not? Or do u send your CV to Sunway management and ask them to send it for u?
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