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Hobbies Tamiya Mini 4wd V4, lets and go!

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13lack.12ose
post Mar 5 2009, 03:01 AM

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@FatalMIND: My Pleasure. Just remember to post your TRF Jr up when you're done wink.gif

@Lost4Love: The motor you use depends on your car setting actually.

But to keep things simple, for PRO motors, Rev Tuned is better for straights, Torque Tuned for cornering, and Atomic Tuned for best combination of these two.

Currently the fastest PRO motor is Hyper Dash Pro.
Lost4Love
post Mar 5 2009, 03:05 AM

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13lack.12ose : Thanks so much for the useful information =)
david tamiya
post Mar 5 2009, 03:11 AM

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QUOTE(13lack.12ose @ Mar 5 2009, 04:01 AM)
@FatalMIND: My Pleasure. Just remember to post your TRF Jr up when you're done wink.gif

@Lost4Love: The motor you use depends on your car setting actually.

But to keep things simple, for PRO motors, Rev Tuned is better for straights, Torque Tuned for cornering, and Atomic Tuned for best combination of these two.

Currently the fastest PRO motor is Hyper Dash Pro.
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for me hyper the fastest followed by atomic then torque i really dont know how to make rev tuned fast any pointers
david tamiya
post Mar 5 2009, 03:25 AM

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QUOTE(Lost4Love @ Mar 5 2009, 03:34 AM)
Thanks for the offer!  My dad bought it for me this evening....  *wink*
I act very fast hor.... hahaha
It feels good being a girl...  LOL
Good luck to those going for the 15 Mar race.
I might be out of town, guess i wont be able to go down 'see see look look'

Btw, im confused over the motors...
How come got so many types?? Which one shld i get??  rclxub.gif
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nice hope to see your car pics soon and happy building

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13lack.12ose
post Mar 5 2009, 04:32 AM

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Never liked Rev-Tuned b4. Remembered running it for a few times and the terminal inside broke. Anyway I find Rev Tuned to be slow as well.

I like the Avante. The roller setting is good as well.

OT abit, how do u post small pictures? All the pictures I posted so big >.<
washywashy
post Mar 5 2009, 08:50 AM

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Guys, things have gotten abit rust for me.. I wanna know, since there is so much hype about the MS chassis, do people still people still play the older models? Btw, how to make motors fast? Those that just come out of the package can't be that fast right? Also, why cannot use Ni-MH rechargeable batteries for the cars?

Seems like there is a general guideline on how to set the car for speed and technical tracks.. Anyone can share? In my time, we never thought of such things, just anyhow whack and put rollers, no planning at all..
david tamiya
post Mar 5 2009, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(13lack.12ose @ Mar 5 2009, 05:32 AM)
Never liked Rev-Tuned b4. Remembered running it for a few times and the terminal inside broke. Anyway I find Rev Tuned to be slow as well.

I like the Avante. The roller setting is good as well.

OT abit, how do u post small pictures? All the pictures I posted so big >.<
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u go to ms paint then resize it

QUOTE(washywashy @ Mar 5 2009, 09:50 AM)
Guys, things have gotten abit rust for me.. I wanna know, since there is so much hype about the MS chassis, do people still people still play the older models? Btw, how to make motors fast? Those that just come out of the package can't be that fast right? Also, why cannot use Ni-MH rechargeable batteries for the cars?

Seems like there is a general guideline on how to set the car for speed and technical tracks.. Anyone can share? In my time, we never thought of such things, just anyhow whack and put rollers, no planning at all..
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ms chasis is the latest chasis
as motors u need to run in for better result
yes there is a few common setting for both type of cars and the older chasis is still being used
mini4wd
post Mar 5 2009, 11:19 AM

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>washywashy,
There is a group of ppl still using old models, as recent races are technical track layout. Old hand of SFM, S-1, TZ as I believe they stopped for quite sometime and now trend is coming back. Although they are old models, it will not go outdated and I like MS for now.

Why the nickel hydride cannot be used? It says in the Japanese official rule; The Ni-Mh battery is prohibited, the motor was locked when the child used the Ni-Mh battery while had switched on, and the battery got burnt heating it. However, is it really so? It is for safety reason.



washywashy
post Mar 5 2009, 11:25 AM

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Oh ok.. About running in, how long would it take? Oh ok.. Seems like quite hard to get SFM nowadays..

Motor was locked? Btw, where do you get your parts in SG? Where do you normally play? From previous posts seems like you really got a lot of stuff and most probably you have a track at home?
mini4wd
post Mar 5 2009, 12:00 PM

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>washywashy,
For an example, something stuck inside the motor causing it jammed.
I collected those parts long ago, some are from overseas. I do not have track at home, are you joining us on the 15 march race at khatib?
13lack.12ose
post Mar 5 2009, 12:07 PM

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Eelen this sunday there'll be a race @ Tampines.
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post Mar 5 2009, 12:36 PM

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QUOTE(13lack.12ose @ Mar 5 2009, 12:07 PM)
Eelen this sunday there'll be a race @ Tampines.
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Any idea where is the actual location and the pricing??
My cousin is interested.
mini4wd
post Mar 5 2009, 12:58 PM

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>13lack.12ose,
Thanks for informing. Are you going? I dont think will be going lei..
13lack.12ose
post Mar 5 2009, 01:04 PM

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I'll be going down see see look look. If the track is viable I do not mind giving it a few tries. Wouldn't wanna risk scratching my cover like the 1st one tongue.gif

Location is @ Blk 419 Tampines St 41. 50 cts a ticket, $1.50 per pair of batts.
washywashy
post Mar 5 2009, 01:17 PM

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I'll be going on the 15th.. Will try to make it to Tampines if possible.. smile.gif
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post Mar 5 2009, 02:11 PM

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Now making Polycarbonate Plates for my FRP and wheels biggrin.gif
david tamiya
post Mar 5 2009, 02:45 PM

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QUOTE(washywashy @ Mar 5 2009, 02:17 PM)
I'll be going on the 15th.. Will try to make it to Tampines if possible.. smile.gif
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good then i will see u on the 15 , we can talk more about mini4wd there
and for running in the motor there few ways to do i am sure black rose will give tutorial on this
as for nimh batt u can use smaller capacity for the car it is ok 1 of the main problem is higher capacity batts tends to be bigger in size compared to smaller ones so if u force in a bigger batt than the battery compartment in the car can hold it will tweak the chasis

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13lack.12ose
post Mar 5 2009, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(david tamiya @ Mar 5 2009, 02:45 PM)
good then i will see u on the 15 , we can talk more about mini4wd there
and for running in the motor there few ways to do i am sure black rose will give tutorial on this
as for nimh batt u can use smaller capacity for the car it is ok 1 of the main problem is higher capacity batts tends to be bigger in size compared to smaller ones so if u force in a bigger batt than the battery compartment in the car can hold it will tweak the chasis
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haha thx David but I am not sure if my method of breaking in motor is good. Consists of only running the motor without load with weak batts and then letting the motor to cool and use strong batts to run the motor without load. I deemed the motor completed breaking in if I do not see any sparks inside the motor. As to cleaning the motor I am not sure how to do it.

Perhaps someone with more knowledge on this can teach us notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif


Added on March 5, 2009, 4:23 pmGearbox Mod continued

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Guess what they are used for brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif

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post Mar 5 2009, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(13lack.12ose @ Mar 5 2009, 03:53 PM)
Guess what they are used for  brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif
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to improve the engine's cooling? brows.gif
or to add the mass damper to the center of gravity? hmm.gif

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13lack.12ose
post Mar 5 2009, 07:10 PM

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QUOTE(B-Mecha @ Mar 5 2009, 04:43 PM)
to improve the engine's cooling?  brows.gif
or to add the mass damper to the center of gravity?  hmm.gif
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The 2nd pic you see are "vibration absorbers" when the gears are spinning, so the gears can turn more smoothly smile.gif

I will be testing the effects of slighted mass damper placement. I am inclined to believe that tilting the mass damper back will be more beneficial compared to a perpendicular one.

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