lol if anybody here fanboyism any of the both game.. then open thread to compare fifa vs we ler.. this is winning thread.. im fanboy of winning.. also fanboy of fifa console..

dont need to label such a game ' like a sampah' u dont even produce the game.. u dont even know how to modelling the game.. it's not like making 'jemput pisang'

and subject to individual skill, fifa got motion capture for real person.. not at all.. 1 individual player need to be pay for his contribution.. do you really wanted all the skillfull player get motion capture? then u should pay the game about 500 usd buck.. afford it ?

winning also have production team making hard to improve their gameplay since last next gen gameplayshow them a failure..
but the current gameplay thing in we still a winning thing among the people here..

no doubt about it.. just for promise a next gen really doubt
im really hope next winning will improve

I was a fifa fanboy from Fifa98-2004. After played a match in WE ps2, never looked back to fifa. Except when I don't have any console with me.

Post count already reach 2700# ad.... if we wanna talk about WE2010 i think we can continue at HERE, this thread gonna close soon or now.

from what i test through fifa10 demo there are pros and cons:-

Pros
variety of animation
nice commentary
nice goalkeeper A.I.
good graphic (except the weired player face and ungly jersey font )

Cons
look like icestaking on the pitch, not so real (players like mabuk dribbling ni )
all players look the same, in term of ability (lol a defender also can perform those trick like striker, very unrealistic)
can use any player dribble pass through at least 3 opponents (again all players can be messi/ronaldo type)
some funny foul will be whistle even it is a good interception without slide tackling (happen too many times)

All the above are my own personal thought about the demo, by using experience level, play more than 20 matches. And 1 more thing, after playing 20 over matches i just start to feel boring about the game, coz can even use Marsellie/ Chelsea to trash Barca 3-0/ 4-0 most of the matches...

Like zeronehza said, fifa10 have its advantages (a credit to their production team, after so many year of setback) but seriously i'm not really agree on the part you mentioned about you need to do motion capture for lots of player in order to present/ resemble those skillful players in-game.

Just like WE/PES series, they don't have motion capture technology on previous ver., but we still can really feel/ differentiate each of the skillful players in-game. For instance, if you control Drogba, you can feel his physical toughness towards his opponent, and his accuracy on shooting, if you control Fabregas, you can perform pinpoint through pass just like his real life but very rare can score a world class goal, if you control Terry, although he is slower than some of the top defender in-game, but his positioning and reaction on clearing the ball is top class in-game, just like his real life. If you are using Walcott, you have the pace and dribbling skill but when in front of goalie, his shooting accuracy is very low....and etc, just to name a few. In fifa everybody can possess the perfect passing, everybody can have those superb dribbling skill, and some defender can even score a world class goal like Drogba, very unrealistic...

That is the "magic" of WE/PES series. The production team able to develop a game that's so freaking real like what you seen in real life football. Of course they can't match with good graphic & animation like fifa series, but like i post before, the "individuality" on each of the players in WE/PES is the one that still attract so many gamers to play the game. You feel like you are really control a player that resemble like his real life counterpart. That is the reasons why there are still so many hardcore ppl buy and play WE/PES series, despite the graphic still not look next-gen like fifa.

For me, Fifa series is just beautifully package with nice graphic/all official kits but still lost the core gameplay/ soul for a longevity gameplay. In WE/PES all the goal are so unpredictable and satisfying (Even until now i still feel shock that i score a goal that i never see before after a year of playing, during my recent online match with a Hong Kong player). In Fifa i just dont feel anything exciting when i score a goal, coz it tends to be looks the same/ predictable.

So for me, i want to play a real football game that give me the excitement and passion, therefore i choose WE/PES series. Still Fifa look arcadey to me, and feel bored quickly.

Of course, WE/PES still have some flaws, especially on next-gen version. Nevertheless, i would rather spend my money on WE/PES that can satisfy me when playing with mate (we shout and scream when score a goal), rather than Fifa that turn bored so quickly.

GAMEPLAY wise, WE/PES is still the best footy game out there. Isn't the GAMEPLAY is the most important criteria for a game that can last long and still have fun playing it?

This post has been edited by SeanWong: Sep 13 2009, 10:45 PM

what seanwong said are absolutely right!!! i support u !!

i was a fifa fan from 98 until 2002..same with some brother here.. since i was tried the winingeleven series in ps2..i love this game so much..

yesterday i was download the fifa 2010 , and i tried it .....'wao!! the gameplay is really suck , it doensnt make any difference between the the last fifa 2002 i played for few years ago.. the pose of the player almost all the same, definitely the gameplay is very poor!! just dribbling , pass and shoot..thats simple , no any tension feeling, after that i juzt deleted the demo..really waste my time to download it.!!

for those fifa fans, pls try winingeleven before u judge it..winingeleven /PES is 1000x better than fifa !! FIFA suck all the way

yeah definitely played FIFA since FIFA: Road to World Cup 98... then Fifa 09 after that ... every edition is just the same old crap.. just recycle the engine, add some new players, better graphics.. played Fifa2002 also sux like, HOW CAN ANYONE play it?

FIFA looks great but inside just empty shell... total disgrace to football games

bro , aku awal2 dulu cam ko gak , ade isu lag , dc ... tapi aku google carik solution...memula aku set open port yg diperlukan , pastu aku set je ps3 aku dalam dmz , rasa start dari tuh sangat sangat kurang dc ... lag tuh depends laa , memane room yg hijau je aku masuk , kuning oren aku buat dek je...

nak dilabelkan sebagai fanboy , rasa kurang tepat ... sebab kitorang cube berfikiran terbuka..nak gak tengok , ape permbaharuan fifa2010 , sebab tuh donlod demo ... tak taulah orang lain, tapi memang aku ikhlas donlod , siap sms memember yg lain demo dah ade kat psn sg...

ape yg aku nilai bukan berdasarkan ape orang cakap , bgtau..tapi ape yg aku nampak ...paling ketara , ice skating tuh laaa..gfx environment memang lawa , tapi rupe player kureng laaa...aku penah main fifa09 & we09 kat xbox360,memang aku rasa fifa09 lagik besh...tapi kat ps3 , still winning terbaik...

pasal bola lekat cam getah , ade betul ade xbetul...terutama skali kalo pakai ronaldo , man u...memang sedap a dribble , tapi bukan lari straight redah defense ... real life memang handling bola ronaldo terbaik kan...cube ko buat mende yg sama pakai tevez , atau berba ... hancusss...

dan kalo ko dapat test ngan bebudak yg power defense , memang xde makna dribble bagai nak rak sekali pun , memang x lepas...

kite tengok nanti we2010 camne...kalo teruk , aku akan larik ke game bola lain...tapi bukan fifa2010 , aku patah je balik ke we2009 ...aku memang x jual , offline pun offline je...janji gameplay terbaik

sori la melalut panjang...just nak kongsi ape yg aku rasa...

kalo ade memember kat sini yang agak panas bakar fifa2010 , ko jangan lah marah...ade user dari thread fifa09 yang mulakan mende2 camnih, masuk sini kutuk we09 , pertikaikan kenape kitorang main we09...renung-renungkan , selamat beramal...

mcm tu jgk fifa...cuba ko men ngn org pndai def?leh ke def score goal?leh ke dribble lepas 3 org?adalh sesetgh org setkt men game cpu kecoh kata leh score ngn def ler aperler xpyh bgtaula..aku men masterleague pun dok belasah team len jer sampai 4,5,6...
cuba ko tgk balik comment dr yg quote aku kata tu?kalau xfanboy pnya comment aper lg?
lg satu, review pro2 semua lbh kat fifa tahun lepas...kebnykkan agree movement PES?WE dia xrealistic & mcm robot...fifa passing terlalu tepat...org tggi dia kalau ps3 punya versi sama jer tggi..
bg aku, fifa ngn WE ni memang best..coz masing2 ader kelebihan dia...review2 pro yg xbias tu bagi rata2 gameplay WE 8.8 & fifa 8.2...review "champ" WE kat sini tu Fifa sampah, WE the best?xke fanboy tu?
Sini thread PES/WE..kalau nk bncg fifa vs pes bukan disini...gi kat forum sebelah plak...forum GamerUnitez...ni link dia
http://forum.gamerzunite.net/index.php?showtopic=17&st=225
nanti kita men WE2010...dulu aku PM ajk ko men WE09 xpenah bls pun

Err, Off topic tp patut kena ada thread baru dah kan? 2700 post dah.

more closer release date to come, more hotter atmosphere around..

PES 29/10...WE 2010 should late 1-3 weeks...huhu..why konami not release it both at same date..some seller already giver pes RM2XX tag...pbbseller give rm180

lambat sket takpe lah, worth waiting. 2XX mcm overpriced je.. will go to pbbseller or whoever cheaper.