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 LYN Proton Saga BLM Club V4

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miseralim
post Aug 25 2008, 01:49 PM

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I'll be needing a BLM for measurements to be done on the upper engine part, and i need a volunteer to do so because i don't have that car.

I'll be giving out a front strut bar for free to the person who volunteered.

Please refer to the thread for further information.
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post Aug 25 2008, 11:02 PM

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QUOTE(SiuYi @ Aug 25 2008, 09:20 PM)
miseralim
wat for u need the measurement?mind elaborate ur purpose?
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I'm the OEM manufacturer for the aluminum front strut bar, and my customers wanted the Saga BLM car model's strut bar and we are starting to manufacture it and hope that it can be done before Raya.
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post Aug 28 2008, 12:38 PM

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QUOTE(SiuYi @ Aug 26 2008, 06:16 PM)
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ur strut bar not bad ka?i never noe strut bars are aluminum bars..wow..new knowledge for me..
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Oh yes, its commonly made of aluminum, but there are lots of other materials as well, common steel and stainless steel, because of the weight of steel and of course the price of it per kg compared to aluminum is more expensive, and not to mention that stainless steel is very expensive itself.

So the most commonly used material to fabricate strut bars are aluminum. biggrin.gif


QUOTE(-storm- @ Aug 26 2008, 10:59 PM)
Alloy bars are easily bend so got install no install no difference =p unless its aircraft grade alloy T7 if im not mistaken but very expensive. If want use strut bar make sure its non adjustable.
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Alloy bars can't be easily bend by the movement of cars, unless you wanna bang it to the wall or something. And using non adjustable bars has its pros and cons, because non adjustable bars have welding points as well, if its non adjustable, you have to make sure that the welding points with the bracket has to be very strong, while adjustable ones can absorb most of the tention created by the movement of the car.
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post Aug 28 2008, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(-storm- @ Aug 28 2008, 03:35 PM)
In my own opinion adjustable will not be as good as adding an non adjustable in terms of performance, the car chassis flexes during cornering and the strut bar is suppose to provide extra strengthening to the strut tower to prevent extra flexing but due to the fact that adjustable can absorb the tension or i can say it flexes thus negating any effect it has on the cornering improvement that a strut bar suppose to provide hence less performance or non at all compare to non adjustable. I think those alloy bars that are in our local market has not met the standards of japanese makes due to cutting cost so i guess steel bars has the most effect in the mean while.

Alumunium is not as strong as steel but its lighter, it takes two times the thickness of the alumunium to match the strength of steel, example a steel bar is 4mm thick it takes 8mm of alloy to match the steel's strength.  So i don't believe in local alloy bar because its too thin and it's light weight(not strong) compare to steel bar unless its double the thickness but the selling point of it being light weight is gone and alloy is much more expensive to make it thicker.
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Yup, you're definitely right about that about adjustable is not as good as non-adjustable, but i've seen before non adjustable stabilizer bars from japan snapped from the bracket, that is because of the style of the driver themselves. Adjustable stabilizer bar does not mean that it flexes when cornering, but it just lets the joint between the aluminum bar and bracket has some breathing space instead of stretching it to the limit like the non-adjustable ones.

Believe me when i say this, when the adjustable stabilizer bars are properly installed, the holding strength of the strut towers is very significant.

Btw, adjustable strut bars are not really "adjustable" what it means is that it has two component, the stabilizer bar and the bracket which is screwed tightly to the strut tower. The only moving part is the screw which joins the stabilizer bar and the bracket, which has the margin of less than 1 mm between them.

Oh, and you're right, steel's strength is stronger than aluminum if the thickness is the same, but for 3mm hollow aluminum bar, it would take more than 5 tons of machinery strength to bend it. We've tried that. biggrin.gif We normally use hydraulic machine to bend it.

This post has been edited by miseralim: Aug 28 2008, 05:38 PM
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post Aug 29 2008, 12:50 AM

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QUOTE(-storm- @ Aug 28 2008, 10:06 PM)
Honestly from my own experience i have used zenden adjustable strut bar, i can't feel any difference at all but once i switch to non adjustable steel bar the effect is undeniable can feel it instantly the steering response got better.  tongue.gif
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Its all down to personal driving style, maybe you're more like racing kind of style which requires a lot of stress being trasfered through the strut bar.
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post Aug 30 2008, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(SiuYi @ Aug 29 2008, 08:41 AM)
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sound pro,dude.keep it up.wahahah.

miseralim
don wory.maybe some blmers willing to borrow their car for ur company to measure..they juz need time.
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Already did, the same day i posted it i got two calls within 1 hour liao. Thanks to jceh83, very very helpful guy, hope he can benefit from the bar i gave him.

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