I just back to the world of "Azeroth" =.=! i trying to play a druid since i deleted my hunter last year. Wonder what type of druid should i play? and what proffesional should i learn ? pr0 pl0x teach ~

That depends; the question you should ask is "what kinda of play style does YOU like best? What do YOU want to be?" there no point of we tell you to level to 70/80 resto druid when you hate being healer in raids/arena/bg.

I just like you, once interested trying playing a druid, so I did my homework on them. (If only school have a subject call "wow" ). I read a lot in wowwiki.com, but according to Quazacolt the site is obsolete. So here just some basic ideas and comment from my puny brain. I never play a druid before, if I’m wrong, I’m sorry.

As the famous druids are known "can do it all(in a druid way)". There like 3 type of build to play with(that I know of).

From Balance talent, there the Boomkin. Its play like a mages without the AOE... in PLATE ARMOR . Bring DEATH and DESTRUCTION with its almighty MOONFIRE spam . But unlike mages, your mana pool will be empty before you know it.

From Feral talent, the direbear/cat form. Its play like a warrior/rogue...with some healing . Instead of use mana, you use rage in direbear form or energy in cat from. Its can last a long battle. And remember when you switch form, its mana cost is BASE on mana pool PERCENTAGE, not a fix number & "Mangle FTW!!!11one!! "
But if you have a latency issue, you get the:"Need more rage", "need more energy", "out of range", "need to behind target" problem.

And last, the Restoration talent. Healing is the name of the game. If play right, you will NEVER die.


As professional you can go herb/alchemy(make mana potion for boomkin mana problem), or skin/leather(good for early level gearing, but in the end, you pretty much either stick with arena welfare epic or raid loots.)

That all I have, hope that helps .

thank alot.. but usually i see people playing balance and feral type.

the game you're playing, is prolly not WoW then

what you mean quancolt? pro pl0x teach =)

O_O! huh! ? what you mean!? play what type ? balance?

Most druids are feral/ resto for pve and the good ones are 99.9% resto/dreamstate healing for pvp.

feral is more to combat type right ?

Spec feral but use balance spells until you get to kitty form. That's for leveling

At 60 or 70, spec whatever u want. Being a tree is fun raiding but heroics not exactly easy.

Depends on what you wana do like everyone said. I speced feral for 1 year plus. U will be asked to tank alot in pve situations . Even in BT you will be one of the off tanks if you are good. I was one of the tanks for Blood boil. Right now i have had enough of Feral and going Balance and i am having fun. Its a bit different then feral and i am learning but the best thing about being a druid , if you are bored you can always get gear and switch to something else that is much more fun. Balance will be my new spec for WOTLK. And one more thing if people force you to spec to heal , just move on to a better guild. My ex guild finally wants moonkin druids but too bad i am not interested and left them for a better guild which i am in right now.

I said leveling. And granted, if you're not used to watching the damage figures during the scrolling combat text and trying out other characters, it is actually a bit difficult (not impossible) to actually know the character of the performance.

The thing about leveling is that until any character reaches within the 20-30 level change, a druid can be slightly difficult to level against mobs of the same level. Plus, different mobs have different characteristics, i.e. high DPS, high armor, weak armor, low DPS, high health, high dodge, high hits, etc. Most characters start out at roughly the same advantage until levels 20-30. But again depends on the class and the skill of the player.

What you're telling me is just the common perception. But to keep yourself interested in the game, it's also worth trying out other builds and see how it fits after a month of regular playing. One day playing may not be enough experience for a player.

Forcing to spec as a healer? I was "forced" to and found out that I had fun healing resto until trying out the "unnerf" heroics. Those were such tough shit last year that today, it's seriously peanuts. Still tough but not that tough.

Feral druid = Rogue that can self-heal better. But all you'll be good for is tanking. Your DPS numbers will not max the hard-hitting folks and will be with the hybrid dpsers above the tanks. So, you're only going to be good for a rebirth.

Just a bit more. Starting areas for druids can be painful. You either have to be 1-2 levels higher than the mob or you have to party in a group to do quests, be it solo or party quest. Both Horde and Allies.

@myremi

Yes i know what you mean by feral not being able to push out those numbers. Yes we dont but that doest not mean we cant. Let me tell you why. Ferals are never given a pure chance to just dps. A cat druid with 44% crit will do very very good dps, top 4 dps. This is proven. I never bothered to focus on cat gear at hyjal level and i just used my t5/t4 mostly for tanking only and even my dps gear was just trinkets and necks and stave's for dps. I did not go all out and get rogue gear .

Secondly yes I dont like to be forced to be a healer so if u like healing and you were forced then i guess I am happy for you.

Thirdly, A balance druid can top dps charts. It i feel is the only hybrid class that can manage to do it. Dont ask me how, I am a new Moonkin now compared to feral and I am still learning but i have seen wws of Balance druids topping the damage meters. It has been proven, we are not the easiest class to level as balance or the best dps class. But we pull our weight.

Leveling as feral is a very good idea , but it can be done as balance, but feral makes things cake.

Sorry if i offended you, but thats my 2 cents on the matter. The last time i posted here i got flamed for no reason. I wont reply if i get flamed again.

Very useful and informative thread, 10/10.

Will read again!

Nah, I don't flame much. Always felt too guilty when I do do it and regret it a lot. I enjoy a fiesty discussion although try not to apologize too much - shows low self-esteem. Be bold! Just do it politely. Anyway...

Itemization is hard for a feral DPS druid. Even feral tanking, it is hard and not much choices in the loot table although it's better now than in TBC.

As for being on top of the DPS chart, again it depends. Very very subjective. I forgot to mention that I was benchmarking against results from a full clear of SST/TK / starting Hyjal/BT. By the time a raid has gotten that far, the players (hopefully) would have maximise their potential. Plus, the loot for the caster and melee classes (dedicated one spec type of classes) would have so much better stats that it's usually difficult for hybrids later on.

Being at the top DPS doesn't necessarily mean that a raider knows best either. If the DPS difference between all 5-10 raiders are very small (e.g. within 100-200 DPS), then it becomes again subjective. If they all survive the fight, it would either mean that there's some who are geared but not that good players, or poorly geared but very good players or the raid encounter.

Having done recruitment for awhile now, I found that ppl like to claim being on the top of DPS charts but once they are with us, they are usually in the group just above the tank. That's why a lot of raiding guilds ask about WWS and even 25-man trials. I suppose ZA may be a better trial since it pushes the potential recruit very hard to perform. Maybe more so than a 25-man encounter but again depends.

Balance druids topping DPS charts. I'd say that you either had very good threat-generating tanks, very good healers to heal the balance druid who would probably be pulling aggro if you had very bad banks, all the other DPS raiders (melee + caster) need improvement. Mind you, I sometimes wonder at other space chickens though. My guild has one Oomkin who arenas and regularly pulls aggro off our tanks who are already doing high TPS.

As for this forum, sometimes just have to have thick skin to accept other people's opinion. It is what they experienced but there would be at least an ounce of truth there. Maybe the reasoning may not be so sound but the truth is often their observation and how they tried to reason it to happen.

Post up your WWS. There may be people who can give you tips or be wowed that it is possible.

And being the healer isn't that bad. When my guild went into Hyjal and BT, we set up an Offspec rule where Offspec Raiders can get free loot that none of the Mains wanted. There's an official Offspec list for this. I'm one of those healers. When I was in SSC/TK, I never went healing but always went shadow DPSing. But BT and Hyjal bosses occasionally needed 9 healers while we were learning so I used to hop on to help. Plus, I was getting bored of being the shadow priest DPSing for a year so healing was of a different challenge. I wanted to be more versatile and explore the different builds. ATM, once I sort out my healing gear for my priest, I was thinking of going Oomkin just for a change and see what that is like.

Balance druid top dps charts... I LOLed at that...

dude, those moonowl thingy calls LASERBEAMZ FROM ORBITAL SATELITES. its BOUND to top dps. like... ION CANNON CHARGING!

bzzztttttt

*BOOM TARGET DESTROYED*

If a balance druid can top dps charts, something is very wrong with your raid. Rogues (even without glaives) and warlocks should ALWAYS be on top

Hybrid classes that are better at dps than moonkins, think
- Enhancement shaman
- Fury warrior
- Retribution pallies
- Shadow priests (Holy should be considered THE offspec nowadays)

This post has been edited by lowzi: Jun 23 2008, 10:01 PM