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Moogle Stiltzkin
post Sep 16 2008, 08:16 AM

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I never really noticed it though with the white glow at an angle doh.gif
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post Sep 16 2008, 09:46 AM

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So, was there any glowing from your monitor?
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post Sep 16 2008, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Sep 16 2008, 08:16 AM)
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I never really noticed it though with the white glow at an angle doh.gif
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Is that supposed to be backlight bleeding?
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post Sep 16 2008, 10:17 AM

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QUOTE(zzzz52 @ Sep 16 2008, 12:02 AM)
Just don't know if the better panel will be that noticeable to me cause i'm just using it for normal daily usage, gaming, movies, work. So just considering what is the best option to spend a budget of 2k+ on the lcd monitor.
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For that money, you have a few options ,especially for 24" or 32" LCD tv brows.gif

If you want to know the difference, just do a research around and visit site like tftcentral or [H]ardForum

Also, you should go to the shop and see it for yourself. People have different tolerance towards the color, viewing angle and input lag so you might want to check it out on some shop for different kind of model, although most of the shop only have TNs.

The Samsung 245b/ T240 are good value LCD IMHO smile.gif
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post Sep 16 2008, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(phelix @ Sep 15 2008, 10:39 PM)
does anyone here using AOC 2216Vw???
it's freaking cheap... below RM600 for a 22" LCD..
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Where u found it selling below RM600? blink.gif
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post Sep 16 2008, 01:06 PM

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zzzz52 - I personally did not see any glow. Then again i do not have that background image to check. Personally i don't think this is much of an issue since you need to be watching from an angle to begin with, which is unlikely. My computer table is very small and i have no room to watch from an angle if i wanted to.


EngSeng - I don't think so. The image just shows one monitor with no glow and the other with glow at an angle. The NEC although is 2 years old, has an AT-TW polarizer which removes this white glow effect at an angle, and also improves contrast.

The HP although a newer H-IPS, lacks the AT-TW polarizer. All lcd monitors have a polarizer, but the one that removes the glow is called an AT-TW.

This is to be expected because the NEC is geared toward a higher end segment which is why it has very good features like AT-TW polarizer, a 12bit internal lut, and very good OSD and color calibration.

The HP on the other hand is probably the best cheap for performance H-IPS currently. I think omitting the AT-TW and the internal lut isn't too big a loss considering the price tag which was reduced to make it more affordable for the masses.

Maybe eventually such very high end features like the NEC will be available in 1-2 years time. We will just have to wait and see smile.gif but till then i will enjoy my new HP.


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post Sep 16 2008, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(lw4ever @ Sep 16 2008, 10:40 AM)
Where u found it selling below RM600?  blink.gif
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computerwar.. comes with 3 years warranty also!
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post Sep 16 2008, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(phelix @ Sep 16 2008, 04:38 PM)
computerwar.. comes with 3 years warranty also!
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Just grab the latest PC Component Price List from their website
http://www.computerwar.com.my/pricelist.php

It's selling RM668, not below RM600 la.
BenQ G221 RM20 chepaer. tongue.gif
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post Sep 16 2008, 06:29 PM

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seem like your Nec better then your HP from that pic you posted blink.gif
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post Sep 16 2008, 07:51 PM

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QUOTE(Onion-KiD @ Sep 16 2008, 06:29 PM)
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seem like your Nec better then your HP from that pic you posted blink.gif
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Not my NEC lah, someone else posted.

Well it depends. I don't think there is a simpler answer that the NEC wins over all. Maybe for a graphics designer it does, but as a gamer i prefer the more improved less input lag monitor with newer inputs.

So hard to get in touch with a NEC rep to buy from Malaysia. Also it wasn't shown on the malaysian website so i went for the HP which is cheaper newer and readily available nod.gif


But yeah if the angle view where you see a glow bothers you, then yeah the NEC would be better in that area. But personally i only watch head on nor have i noticed any of this glow until some other owner posted that comparison.

This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Sep 16 2008, 07:52 PM
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I got a wierd problem from my LG W2252TQ.
In normal display at wording or gaming or surfing the net, my LCD did not seems to have dead pixel.
But if i watch a movie with any movie player, a dead pixel will come out on the middle up right position. Since it is close to the vision concentration area, it is quite annoying also.

Got any1 meet this problem?
Any way to overcome this problem?
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post Sep 16 2008, 11:06 PM

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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Sep 16 2008, 07:51 PM)
Not my NEC lah, someone else posted.

Well it depends. I don't think there is a simpler answer that the NEC wins over all. Maybe for a graphics designer it does, but as a gamer i prefer the more improved less input lag monitor with newer inputs.

So hard to get in touch with a NEC rep to buy from Malaysia. Also it wasn't shown on the malaysian website so i went for the HP which is cheaper newer and readily available  nod.gif
But yeah if the angle view where you see a glow bothers you, then yeah the NEC would be better in that area. But personally i only watch head on nor have i noticed any of this glow until some other owner posted that comparison.
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You can never get 2490 in Malaysia. That's why I imported it from the states yrs ago, and the total costs is nearly 5k with no local warranty. shakehead.gif shakehead.gif shakehead.gif


Added on September 16, 2008, 11:19 pmSleek looking NEC 24WMGX3 thumbup.gif Ahh.... time flies, I still remember when I unbox my 24WMGX2. blush.gif

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But I still prefer white tongue.gif

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post Sep 17 2008, 01:03 AM

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Hi Kianwee - how much is the NEC 24WMGX3 and when did it get released ? yeah it look good. But what are the specs compared to the Nec 2490 ?
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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Sep 17 2008, 01:03 AM)
Hi Kianwee - how much is the NEC 24WMGX3 and when did it get released ? yeah it look good. But what are the specs compared to the Nec 2490 ?
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Hey man. GX3 comes with a AMVA panel @ 1920x1200 60Hz, contrast ratio of 1000:1, brightness 500cd/m², as usual 178 degrees VA. Comes with 2xHDMI as well. Remote control (this is the one thing I'm attracted to NEC tongue.gif) + build in speaker as well as auto backlight adjustment. I guess there's a brightness sensor somewhere in this LCD. rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

Expected to be around RM4.5k laugh.gif
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post Sep 17 2008, 10:45 AM

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4.5 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Then again.... i did pay RM 4.2 for my Dell 2405FPW when it was brand new and the high end of it's time ....

But imho these days i try to spend less if possible. That is why i've been recommended the HP cauz for Rm 2.4k for this sort of monitor is damn good.

Compare 2.4k with 4k + !! big difference in price biggrin.gif

Anyway i will look for the review for the monitor you mention. Does it have an internal lut i wonder ?


http://www.prad.de/en/news/shownews_tft1885.html


But it's only a VA panel type so how can it be more expensive then a H-IPS monitor such as the HP which is only RM 2.4k ?? I saw it has 2 hdmi, but even 1 hdmi for me is just fine. More HDMI is really only needed for a HDTV in the living room.

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post Sep 17 2008, 05:42 PM

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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Sep 17 2008, 10:45 AM)
4.5 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Then again.... i did pay RM 4.2 for my Dell 2405FPW when it was brand new and the high end of it's time ....

But imho these days i try to spend less if possible. That is why i've been recommended the HP cauz for Rm 2.4k for this sort of monitor is damn good.

Compare 2.4k with 4k + !! big difference in price biggrin.gif

Anyway i will look for the review for the monitor you mention. Does it have an internal lut i wonder ?
http://www.prad.de/en/news/shownews_tft1885.html
But it's only a VA panel type so how can it be more expensive then a H-IPS monitor such as the HP which is only RM 2.4k ?? I saw it has 2 hdmi, but even 1 hdmi for me is just fine. More HDMI is really only needed for a HDTV in the living room.
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Well, I guess the remote control, build in speakers and the auto backlight adjustment contributed a lot to the costs biggrin.gif
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post Sep 17 2008, 09:00 PM

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i have a prob...
my monitor reso
after i restart just now the reso become 1600x900
suppose 1680x1050 how come this happen?
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post Sep 17 2008, 09:13 PM

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post Sep 17 2008, 09:17 PM

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suppose 60hz rite?
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OMG Dell S2409W price looks tempting...

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