So, the conclusion is .... We wont be able to use softwares like Garmin Mobile XT on the C702 with ONLY GPS (Not aGPS) like the Nokia N82 or N95.
The C702 can only suppport Google Maps which to me is not accurate and incomplete. I've tried Google Maps on my P1 and I find it really crappy if you were to run Malaysian Maps. Anyone can clarify this?

So... Can you use just GPS only (means depending on GPS navigator in the phone ....like the N82 or N85 without the support of network provider? Does it support Garmin Mobile ?
The maps on google is not accurate yet complete rite? Especially the Malaysian Map.

Guys...after reading so many reviews by users here... is the phone worth investing in? Even some of my friends who have the phone seem to be complaining bout the firmware coz the frequent restarts and the expensive gprs usage. Can anybody give me some views on this? Does the latest firmware solve the restart problem?

This post has been edited by TOMEI-R: Nov 30 2008, 09:17 PM

Hey bros,
Add me to a new user list. Got a speed black version today. Thanks guys. Oh yeah....when u guys purchased the phone....did it come with the M2? Coz mine didnt so have to buy. Mine is ap by the way.

This post has been edited by TOMEI-R: Dec 3 2008, 10:16 PM

Just to inform u guys, I've updated my phoneware through SEUS. Latest version rite now is R3DA029.
Testing it right now and found that the phone works much faster compared to my last phoneware.
Overall quite happy with the phone. Im also in the process of installing TREKBUDDY. Will update if it is working fine.

Face detection works fine on my phone. I dont know about you guys.
The sms is still laggy. Like someone said I think the processor just couldnt match the A200 platform requirements. But overall the new FW has really sped things up abit.
I have never encountered a restart before. The only thing Im complaining about the C702 is the battery life which is short. My W880i can outlast the c702 in terms of battery life anytime even though SE website states the battery life for the C702 is longer. Because I handle a lot of call, the c702 can only last me 1-2 days compared to 3-4 days with the W880i.

This post has been edited by TOMEI-R: Dec 7 2008, 03:10 PM

You have to go to general--->events--->---->Pop Up menu to enable the pop up menu.

3G means you are running on 3G network. If there is no 3G coverage then the phone switches to normal network.

I think most probably is that you didnt save the name of the message sender. Thats why it previewed the message.

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Added on December 11, 2008, 6:33 pmDid your phones all come with some preloaded games? Mine did and all of them are demo/trial versions. Im trying to delete these games as they are consuming memory on my phone. But somehow, these games are not permitted to be deleted. Anybody got some tips on how to delete these unwanted games?

This post has been edited by TOMEI-R: Dec 11 2008, 06:33 PM

Believe me...the phone is splash resistant. Already tested and proven by a lot of users.
The phone is a great buy. My only complain is that the processor is a bit slow for the A200 platform. Other than that, with the kind of price you are paying for a phone with so many features...ie cybershot, gps...its a very good buy already.

U will get used to the keypad soon.

The latest software is R3DA029. Yours is an older version. Maybe S.E has not updated the software of your phoneware for the particular region.

No... There is no way to show time/date in standby mode. All new S.E phones doesnt have this feature no more but you can push the volume button and the time will show in standby mode for 2 seconds.

Ok Guys,

For the PMs I received regarding these issues....Let me reply U here and make it clear so that other Forummers need not ask me or anyone again.

1) How do I update to the Latest Firmware?
You can update to the lastest software On S.E.U.S (Sony Ericsson Update Service)

Go to www.sonyericsson.com and follow the instructions there.

Latest Phoneware ---> R3DA029


2)Do I get charged by my TELCO (Maxis, Celcom, Digi) for using Google Maps on my C702?

Yes....Google Map downloads its maps constantly through GPRS Usage in your Phone as there is no preloaded maps. You phone download the maps each time u open Google Maps and and as you move around.

3)Any free GPS Software that doesnt require downloading maps?

Yes....Do some research. One example is TREKBUDDY. TREKBUDDY works fine with C702. Preloaded maps are the best alternative. There are pros and cons to this.

4)Does the GPS receiver really work?

Yes, it works fine. But the GPS receiver's reception is not as strong as independant GPS Devices such as Garmin or Holux.

5)What is A-GPS?

A-GPS is Assisted Global Positioning System. Majority of handphone comes with A-GPS. It means that the phone requires signals from Communications Towers to help determine your location quicker and more accurately. So your telco will charge you when your phone downloads these data through GPRS usage.

6)Does the phone lag when opening/closing applications and making calls?

Yes. But not as bad as some other phone models like the W910i. You have to update to the latest phoneware because the phoneware is still being constantly developed and updated. It would never perform as fast as older phones such as the W810i or K750i because its GUI and features are far more advanced eg.. Advanced Menus and Display, GPS, 3G, Cybershot camera. The processor is admittedly a bit slow in supporting the A200 platform

7)Is the phone really waterproof?

Read properly. S.E never said the phone is waterproof. It is only splash proof. Meaning that you can listen to your phone under the rain, or you can spill some coffee onto it but NOT bring your phone for a swim or leave it in the washing machine for a wash.

I hope these answer most of your queries. Read properly before you post the same questions over and over again. If still in doubt, do some research online. I'm sure you will be able to find these information on the net.

This post has been edited by TOMEI-R: Dec 27 2008, 06:33 PM

The software version is determined by R3DA. The previous version is R3CA. If this is what u meant,

This post has been edited by TOMEI-R: Dec 30 2008, 11:40 AM

Its around Rm780 if Im not mistaken for AP. Its About Rm1k++ for Original. Why dont u check out the marketplace thread? Anyway, do check out the energy black version. I saw the real phone and didn't find it too appealing. When I first got my speed black version, the energy black version was launched in the market. Looking at the pictures online, it was very attractive. Damn sakit hati then but then when I saw the real phone, I was relieved I didn't take it. Well one man's meat is another man's poison. Dont know if you will like it.

This post has been edited by TOMEI-R: Dec 30 2008, 11:54 AM

Glare842006
How many users do we have in in forum currently?

Not too sure about the max storage for smses. I think it should be the same like other S.E phones. About a hundred smses should be the limit but again storing too many smses really makes the phone lags.

Updating the phoneware requires the user to go through the same procedures be it your phone is an ap or ori set. Just dont understand why u ppl find it hard/different to update to update your phoneware if it is an ap set.

R3DA029 phoneware is a little bit smoother and quicker in terms or performance. I never experienced any crash or restarts after I upgraded to R3DA.

Oh I understand your predicament. Thats why I normally stick to a few reputable AP phone suppliers namely COMSAT or TELSTRA coz they would supply phones which are normally for our ASEAN region. Even if it is an Europe set, you can ask their service center to flash and in most cases they have already flashed it themselves before distributing the phones. Their prices are notably a bit more expensive (maybe Rm30 to Rm100 more) but its definitely worth paying for especially if you were to get a set with an ASEAN CDA. This can save u a lot of time and of course headache too.
Streamx connection is crappy. But as I were updating the phone (yes...it took about three hours too), I was browsing through the net and didnt face any problems. Maybe it was because of S.E Update Service own lag. Being a loyal S.E phone supporter, my other phones dont seem to face these kinda problems last time when I updated them.

There are a few reputable dealers here which sell the phone at good prices with equal good service. Do check out the marketplace in this forum. I also found out that some lyn dealers' price is even lower because some are part timers and dont have a shop, therefore they could sell at lower price.

R3DA '032' is the code for the region the phone belongs to. Previous fw is R3CA. So it should be the same fw but for a differant region.

Yup..Trekbuddy works fine with C702. But DO NOT expect full functions from a full fledged GPS software such as Garmin Mobile XT. The Maps you can download from TREKBUDDY website along with Penang and Singapore maps.