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post Nov 16 2008, 05:12 PM

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Be patient for perfection~

All of us aware that Real's management is very weak in terms of rational thinking. A defeat now is better than a back to back defeat against all those top dogs in December. Now, possibly we gonna see all the player+coaches+management being criticized over and over again that they will cornered to find a solution a.s.a.p

Given the idea that Schuster is actually lack of quality players for time being. By players I mean a player that can be a resolution for our weak performances. Players like Robben, DLR, RVN and Pepe. Nobody thought that we will lose them all in one time. But Schuster did ask for reinforcement to face this kinda situation but "the clowns" never grant his wish. This chains of defeats is the best punch in their face for not trusting Schuster. So maybe now they'll find some good players out there and bring them in quickly.

Apart from that we've been too dependent on several players to get us the results. It actually looked like we were playing as a team but it's not (at least for me). We may played one or two times as a team but it's not regularly done. Last season how many times did Casillas, Robinho and RVN saved our ass? The answer is countless of times. Schuster has his own idea on playing a winger down the left flank due to creativity of Robinho was really useful there. But he never stopped on using the same tactic even after Robinho's departure. Drenthe and Robben can be a replacement but nothing like Robinho. So Schuster should imply some versatility in his tactics. He joked and commented on El Pipita's penalty which lacked versatility. Wake up Bernd, your tactic is also predictable that even a fan like me can predict the next move, whistling.gif let alone all the tactician in the world of football today.

Finally the players themselves must take a serious step to improve their gameplay and start to work as a team.
I personally think we will bounce back before December for we're not like the old Galacticos. So this is a blessing in disguise






and if all this bashing and criticizing not taken seriously by the management, well maybe just maybe then we're witnessing another era of Real Madrid's destruction.







EDIT: Do anybody know when will www.madridista.my be available? Please guys, I'm in a quest to find all the malaysian blancos so in future we can all hang out to watch English Premier League on weekends mega_shok.gif hahahaha! This web can e very handful. chow~ HALAMADRID


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post Nov 17 2008, 02:30 PM

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Come on Madridistas.. We can all share our ideas in www.madridista.my
Join now, later we can discuss about our weekly meeting.
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post Nov 18 2008, 07:38 PM

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QUOTE(gry @ Nov 18 2008, 07:19 AM)
real really missed robinho. i dont know why real camp look really mess at this moment. Look at Barcelona, they only take a few month rebuilding their team. They bought really good players, they got really decent players and they also got very good managers. They look strong at all department.

Look at real madrid rite now, defender look shaky in all areas, attacking look weak plus without rvn summore, i think major changed need to be make soon.
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Real really missed Di Stefano, Ronaldo, Zidane, Figo, Butragueno and all the top Liga players that had played for us. Look at Barcelona they took ONLY TWO YEARS to find out that Rijkaard, Ronaldinho, Deco and several other players are not functioning anymore. We, on the other hand, took a freaking LONG 10 weeks to find that we are in trouble right now. They bought really "good" players like Hleb and Keita who were the major factor for their win each week, while we are doing "shit things" by trusting the same players that won La Liga easily last term. Not to forget that we also bought a "crap" from Holland that did nothing since his arrival.

For god sake, cut us some slack will ya!!

QUOTE(sprix @ Nov 18 2008, 08:56 AM)
we r facing injuries problem... that the problem...  sweat.gif 
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Injury+defensive problem.. Even when all the defenders were available, they seem to do the same silly mistake at times. I don't want to repeat the same problem again and again but if we did sort this thing earlier maybe we can face less suffer in the future.

QUOTE(verx @ Nov 18 2008, 03:15 PM)
Marcelo isn't showing enough promise for me. At this rate he won't be good enough to play for Madrid. His positioning is piss poor and he makes some really elementary mistakes which you would not expect of a player playing at the highest level. I would not mind for us to go and get a new LB when the window opens.
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Marcelo is a promising youngster that showed some great improvement to be a good right wing back. Yes he can help out offensively, yes he has a better chance than anybody right now to be the next R.Carlos but, lets face it, he's a defender who can't defend very well.

I agree with you that he's not good enough to play for Madrid now. But if you realize Marcelo seem to make that mistake almost everytime he's playing. Maybe somebody in the squad should guide him to a proper way of defending. He's a good player and I have faith that he can do well in future. That said, I'm not opposing to the idea of bringing a better LB to Bernabeu.
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post Nov 20 2008, 11:51 AM

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Well. Higuain is improving in an impressive rate. He's phenomenal in the match against Malaga. Like I said it's a blessing in disguise. He's a monster in the making!! (sounds like a fanboy huh?) Am I too ambitious?
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post Nov 21 2008, 12:07 PM

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Zarate, I've been watching this guy for so long. Long enough to know that this guy can be with us but not as a resolution to our problem now. I'm not saying he's all fruitless but we have to wait at least one year for him to be a regular starter. I rather go for Benzema or Arshavin so we can solve this misery quickly and also to bring the best out of Pipita. I'm saying this because our management's top priority task is to solve this problem and they are hoping winter transfer as one the major solution.

Yeah, you can still say Zarate is proven to be good. So why not? Because, to say it simply, we're lacking of a people who can build the attack. Zarate have a very good finishing but we need a player like Benzema or Arshavin who have better off the ball positioning (which can connect better with Guti and Sneijder), who can stretch the opponent's defense line with their runs, who can lift up the pace of our attack and can be very useful on counter attacks (Arshavin is so good at this). Maybe I'm wrong but this is what I see we're lacking of week in week out (apart from defensive line). If the management want to see a drastic change, I strongly suggest they can land either Arshavin or Karim ( if they get both it would be perfect tongue.gif )




A correction on your comment

QUOTE(kevraul @ Nov 20 2008, 11:37 PM)
messi, aguero, lavezzi, tevez, higuain..........i think they can be called talents.......

i think real madrid has probably the not so good one among those 5..... For time being
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post Nov 22 2008, 05:21 AM

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Who watched Brazil vs Portugal match? Did anyone of you noticed that Pepe was completely torn apart by Robinho. As a footballer I have to admit, I am fond of his style. BTW, Christy was nowhere near Robinho, I mean for this particular game only.

Anyway, about Perez making the U turn, do you guys think he can engineer another monster like before (the early years of his presidency days) or will we be witnessing another so called revolution in the form of Galacticos?
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post Nov 27 2008, 04:10 PM

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It was a good morale boost for the squad. 2nd game in the row we won with a clean sheet. Let's forget about the amount of goal scored 1st. I'm happy to see this changes and hoping that this team can progress in a positive manner throughout those horrible fixtures in December. Anyway verx, I agree with you on heinze. God when will Schuster drop him from the line up.

Heinze can do a lot better if he just can make his ass stay at the bottom. No need for wasted overlaps (we cut that problem down in Sergio's case and look how it turn out to be). The team should be exposed with a lot of danger due to this overlapping idea. I, for time being, love to see a defender like M.Torres. He done a pretty good job and less of the Bate's attack came from his side.

Anyway, love to see all Madridistas can smile again. Keep up posting guys.

~I'll try my best to post as much as I can.. this stupid exams are controlling my schedule rclxub.gif ~

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post Nov 28 2008, 01:08 PM

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"Los Merengues chief, Ramón Calderón has never been shy to make bold promises when it comes to player transfers and a few embarrassing flopped predictions in the past have not deterred him from going at it again.

In an interview with Radio Marca program ‘La Futbolería’, the lawyer turned club president outlined his transfer plans for the near future, although he declined to drop any names.

“Next summer, there will be two or three important signings and they will be footballers who will thrill our fans. We will not have any problems presenting these players come June (2009),” he said.

And Calderón did not forget about the winter trade period coming up in January: “We will have new faces arrive in seven to ten days’ time.

There will be two young, promising, attacking players who will come to help the team and they will be able to play in the Champions League,” affirmed Calderón.

Finally, the supremo once again reiterated his support for coach, Bernd Schuster, who has been criticised for being uncommunicative and withdrawn around his players.

“In front of the media, Bernd is timid and apathetic. But around those he is close to, he is very warm and he is a great person.

“We have a good group of players and a great coach. The present and future project of Madrid revolves around Bernd Schuster,” concluded Calderón."

From Goal.com

You guys heard it already right? Now I read a transfer rumor thread from another site and this is by far the names that suits Calderon's bold promise.

Hernan Crespo
Angel Di Maria
Ricardo Oliveira
Alexandre Pato
Douglas Costa
Dentinho
Keirrison
Mario Gomez

Zarate is also a possible signing although I'm pretty sure Lazio's loan deal goes until the end of the season. Maybe Calderon work something out with Zarate's parent club. Amr Zaki's can make the list also since he's the kind of guy we're looking for.

Other than these names, I don't have any clues who we gonna sign in 10 days time.
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post Nov 28 2008, 10:33 PM

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QUOTE(Chrisky @ Nov 28 2008, 02:35 PM)
lol Crespo ? surely he's not "young, promising, attacking player".  biggrin.gif
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I know.. but there are rumours saying that he'll be in Bernabeu for winter transfer, that's why he made to the list. Calderon aren't interested in him anymore.. thumbup.gif

Btw, slightly off topic.. who watched last night thrilling encounter of Portsmouth against Milan.. Milan were stronger.. but somehow.. Pompey score twice before Ronaldinho netted a brilliant freekick.. Got to say.. He's way better than Del Piero n Sneijder. Finally Inzaghi top the Uefa all time top scorer's list when he scored the equalizer in injury time.. It was a very exciting match.

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post Dec 3 2008, 03:17 AM

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Its official now! KJH is a Blanco! drool.gif hehe.. Though he is injured now, he'll be in his best condition in January. Now let's wait for another surprise from the board.. Had to say, this should go as one of the best thing they did (actually it's because I'm a fan of KJH rclxm9.gif )

OFFICIAL KJH
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post Feb 26 2009, 06:26 AM

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Of all my years of watching football, this is by far one of the most embarrassing lost for me coz, we lost to a team that didn't even play football.
Throughout 90minutes you can see all the long pointless pass from reina and pool's defenders. Absolutely stupid. To think that we lost the battle just because of that stupid Heinze makes me suffer even more.
If they can win in bernabeu, why can't we do the same or even better at Anfield. People can say it's almost impossible but its not like the ynever suffered a loss there. Have Faith madridistas for we know how good we are. Chow~

QUOTE(mamet @ Feb 26 2009, 06:01 AM)
next time give Reina keeper for Spain 1st team... tongue.gif
whos guarding benayoun during the goal??
2 liv players got free-header...
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How many times did Reina saved the ball in this match? any crucial chances apart form Robben's and Marcelo's? Are you even serious about this comment?



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post Feb 26 2009, 08:03 AM

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QUOTE(utp_tyco @ Feb 26 2009, 06:36 AM)
hehehe..if pool not play football..what game they play..
ouh..mayb they beat madrid use a badminton racket...hihihihhi icon_idea.gif
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By that I meant that your team is lack of football qualities in other word liverpool don't know how to play football. Heck if your satisfied with the result only, I can't blame you cause most of nowadays football fans love the result only (livescore guys). I didn't mean to insult anybody but that's the truth. EPL and La Liga never will be the same in one aspect, the support from the fans. You can play the same unattractive way for 10 years or more and end up getting a full support from your fans. Our type fans have different perspective about football. We wanna see our team play well and win. Attacking football is a must in Madrid. We can hire a manager that adapts defensive tactics like liverpool did and maybe manage to win the league and UCL but I can assure you that the coach will still end up getting sacked.

You have your way of thinking and me with mine.

You can laugh all you want. But I've been watching football for more than 12 years now. Maybe its not that long compare to yours, IDK, but all I know, in terms of football, your team never impresses me. That's why I said it's embarrassing. No offense~


Reason to edit: Just to say HALAMADRID~!

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post Feb 26 2009, 04:00 PM

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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Feb 26 2009, 02:38 PM)
Lack of football qualities?Not entertaining? Live score guys?Result team?And that's the reasons why Capello was sacked?Eww...Anyway, I must admit that for someone who watch football over 12 years, you seems know nothing much of football.No offense.

Why I say so? Simple.For someone like you who already watched over 12 years of football, you should know no visiting team will be playing attacking football (a.k.a beautiful football) against a good home team.Thus, you shouldn't be expecting us to play all out for attack.

Also,For an experienced coach like Juande Ramos, he should be expecting us playing defensively.Thus, he should come out with a good strategy to counter us.All I can see from Ramos is, he took out one of the speedy guy and put in a slow guy and save another 2 substitutes for nothing.Blame us for playing defensively? Parking the bus?You don't blame others for your own fault.Fault on ramos for taking out marcelo who would have give Arbeloa a hard time.Fault on Ramos for not using another 2 substitutions.Fault on the players for not marking benayoun.

As for your claim that you team play beautiful football, I beg to differ.How interesting had you guys been playing when most of the time Robben and Higuain were going for solo show.All I could see last night were wide long shots.The only interesting part about Real Madrid last night was not the beautiful football like you claimed but Gago. laugh.gif Oh my...He was easily motm last night.  laugh.gif  *hugging legs after kicking others*  doh.gif

Anyway, I m stunned by your statement of "embarrassing".You guys have more possessions than us.You guys have more chances than us but you guys didn't grab it.There were even few dubious referee decisions that went your way and went against us.How embarrassing is that?I wonder.And who should be the one feeling embarrass after all the possessions they had? wink.gif 

Then again, I guess our definition of beautiful football is different.I don't call a football game full of wide long shots and play acting as beautiful football...Then again, is my prospective.
No offense.Cheers.  smile.gif
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NO visiting team will be playing attacking football? You should really know what you are saying. I give you simple examples that can prove you wrong. Bayern won 0-5 last night, if you watched Inter vs Man U you will surely know who have more control of the game, and Porto visited Madrid and netted 2 goals in a mouth watering encounter with Atletico.. I don't to go way back in history of footballing to show you the truth. I watched all of this matches and not only highlights. Liverpool is a team that played a very less amount of attacking football in champions league. Tell you what, most of nowadays english team did that and that's why all the excitement almost gone in Champions League matches. Ask any old timer and they will say the same.

Yes, you were right about robben and higuain, maybe they tried too hard so they sucked a bit. But I'm talking about the whole team and the flow of the ball when the particular team have possession. Long pass is not a must in football, ok doh.gif .

Yes, I'm embarrassed, but I'll say it again. I'm embarrassed to loss to a side that didn't even play a proper football. We played a decent football but again, we have different perspective and thoughts on this.

So here goes again guys... 2 weeks is a long time. From what I know, Ramos won't let us down that easy. Maybe he will think about something for the next tie. There's still room for improvement for Robben, Heinze, Gago, and Pipita. It's the beauty of 2 legged matches. We get to know our opponent 1st, though it'll be hard to win, but it is absolutely absurd to say that we can't do it. Have faith, pride and dignity guys for we are Madridistas.

I'll take this loss as a blessing in disguise.
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post Feb 27 2009, 12:34 PM

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Since I started this thing, I do have to take responsibilities to cool it down. Ok now, Liver fans that felt insulted with my post, I'm sorry especially to solstice818 and Duke Red.

You see, you said it organized defensive football, I said it negative and embarrassing.. Different people, different way of thinking. That's all.. I'm not a cocky person or something. Just calm down ok?

to a guy said go watch the joga bonito clips, do you even know what does the word mean? It means play beautiful and it's not originated from neither from that clips nor from Eric Cantona's ideology. It was often been used to describe Brazil’s style of play.

and to solstice818, I always get my facts right. Please if you have time, go watch the atletico vs Porto game. You will know what I mean. Between Inter and ManU, you said it yourself, Inter did everything they can but ManU still put up a decent fight. Heck I can't even say that ManU was totally sinked by Inter in the second half of that match. Just because I didn't elaborate much about those matches doesn't mean I don't have any knowledge about that.
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I know someone will come up with this, but never thought it'll be you. But it's ok then. I enjoyed the game. Yes we did use a very defensive approach for that match. But, I'm sure that's the only time we used that tactic. But it's not the case with Liverpool. They been doing since god knows when. I'm not arguing about this one game only. I didn't say they never change their tactics but I barely see them doing it. That's all.
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It's the time when Schuster was still in control and yes we did a handful of counter attacks. If I remember it correctly we end up countered them very well that twice we gone forward with four of our forwards against two of their defenders.

Another difference is we used our possession to the best we can. We didn't throw the possession just like that with a string of pointless long balls. We manage to pass it well. You guys sure remember how we scored right. It was a beautiful short string of passes and with RVN and JB pairing up for a brilliant one two pass in the middle of the pitch to get the ball through the heart of their defense line. It looked so simple and awesome to.

OK guys. late for Friday prayers. Gtg. HALAMADRID..
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post Mar 2 2009, 04:10 AM

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Well well well.. And they said we're done!!.. My faith never gone. I believed and still do. Though we are not yet there (1st position in the league) at least we put up a decent fight.

On Friday night, a Liver fan came to me and said "dude, what's the difference between our team when you said you have more than one job to focus? I see no difference when both our team are 2nd in the league with 7 points difference" yet here they are losing their last league game, we won ours and Atletic just helped us cut the lead to 4 points. hehehe! I'm happy and Proud with my team!

I'm not saying this because of our past week conflict with Liverpool . No, not at all. I just wanna make this "lead gap" talk more interesting. That's all.

EDIT: HALAMADRID!!!

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QUOTE(haruyip @ Mar 2 2009, 08:44 AM)
even i was jumped when i saw the result this morning at soccernet almost laughed my ass out of my pants
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Haha, I watched the game last night with my roomie who is a Die Hard Barca fan.. You should look at his face when Kun scored the 4th goal.. Priceless! With me singing the halamadrid song, it kept him burning till now. hahahhah! I just love the way both Madrids put the pressure on Barca! rclxms.gif



QUOTE(verx @ Mar 2 2009, 09:06 AM)
Guys we are close but not there yet. Let's keep the party hats away for now tongue.gif We still need Barca to drop one more game and then it will be in our hands. This is the diff between Barca and Madrid. If it were Barca that was 12 pts behind they would have given up long ago. But not Madrid even with all the critics writing us off. smile.gif
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Indeed.. We talk less bout chasing them when clearly we do and we did it in style. While they talked alot bout chasing us but we smoked them real bad.. doh.gif hahah~


Wake up Barca, you can hear the roar of our engine quite clear now. thumbup.gif

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post Mar 4 2009, 07:19 PM

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I think we gonna win this match.It'll not be easy as it sounds but I do think we stand 70% of winning chances against our opponent given that It'll be in Bernabeu and that I hope S.Ramos will play as a CB.

But I can't rule out the strong possibilities of Ramos fielding Meltzelder as a CB since he is most likely the only defender that we can rely on against an opponent like Atletico (though sometimes he sux but heinze sux more! mega_shok.gif )

Anyway, the defenders have to take a "good care" of one of the most fearful attacking pack and since they are in hot form right now we have to double up the attack, earn a quick goal and stop conceding possessions in such wasteful attacks.
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haha, I don't think we gonna let go sneijder that easy and since we learned it the hard way (robinho's departure) I''m pretty sure we gonna wait until we signed a player (either benzema, ribery or Ronaldo) then only we gonna think about selling one.. or maybe two (considering VDV's performance lately).

Anyway, I read in soccerpulse that Ramos is set to field Sergio as CB and Salgado will play as RB for this coming derby which will be tough for him because Simao will play on the left flank. rclxub.gif

I hope Sergio, Salgado and Heinze didn't commit any silly fouls doh.gif that gonna earn them the marching orders. It's a derby and you all know what that means.

I hope to see Robben and Higuain pass the ball a bit more. I know he's (robben) good in stretching the defense line but I want to see a firm teamwork display before we head to Anfield.

EDIT: HALAMADRID!!!

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