when fighting beast, can i use lethal weapon to kill her and use non-lethal weapon to finish her off in the white world? Will i still get the secret item?

Which way is better? Kill the beast with lethal or non-lethal weapon? Wat do i get from it?

there r 2 ways - non lethal kill during beast mode will get the doll, and non lethal kill during beauty mode will get the face camo. Is this true?

anyway, wat r the dolls for? I have missed out the octopus doll already... currently fighting raven.

where did u get the FROG doll? shit man... SOlar gun is damn usefull for Big Boss emblem play.

Yitbunzai, u need to collec the doll on the first floor when u change to beauty. Then u need to make her change the world to white, finish her off with non lethal weapon for face camo.

hhahhaha Muchi is right... he learnt it the hard way! funny la bro. I guess MGs 4 is the kinda game that make u wanna play few times for satisfaction.

Well, getting Frog doll for first play through is very difficult. wat weapon did u use complete the FROG mission. MK II gun or sniper rifle?

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Added on June 23, 2008, 10:39 amguys, i think Raiden can tapau Snake anytime... his samurai skill is excellent. And why didnt Vamp kill Snake in the first place. (im still in Act 3... so dunno wats the story in the end). Vamp got so many chances to kill snake but didnt. hmmm i feel kinda puzzled actually... both Vamp and Raiden can take over Snake and Liquid anytime and rule the world. Kinda unrealistic... Raiden can whack all Gekko swiftly - 1 man show!

This post has been edited by BlueLotus: Jun 23 2008, 10:39 AM

game sold everywhere nationwide... depends on ur luck if they have stock.

MGO is part of MGS 4.

yhanlee, there is no point asking wat ppl think cos everyone has different perception. It is either u love it or hate it. Otherwise, the topic will be another heated argument.

must start using the 2 fingers and shoot ppl like how Liquid did it. Bang Bang Bang!!! *body and hands shaking to mimic the gun recoil*

for the final move, point the fingers to your head and everyone pengsan!

Raging Raven's real life profile:
http://rose.zero.ad.jp/~zaj23205/t_photo.html

Laughing Octopus real life profile:
http://www.fashionmodeldirectory.com/model...showphoto/59283

Crying Wolf real life profile:
http://www.maximonline.com/girls_of_maxim/...ed.aspx?id=1169

Screaming Mantis real life profile:
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0004823/mediaindex

where and how to switch channel? during cutscenes, i can only press L1 for hidden view. anything else?

yeah just finished the game tonight. nice ending! very touching though. EVen though im new to MGS game and this is my first time playing MGS. Im must say tat MGS 4 is a fantastic game. ACtually no need to play from MGS 1 to know the story. MGS 4 explain the history quite well. And with MGS Database installed, I can follow up the story pretty well.

By the way, how to view the interview between snake and eva? where to find it?

fake pic la... no mgs 4 for wii nor xbox.

u should read the comment below.... maybe the theory is not correct after all.

of course u should play again after getting BB emblem... must see the effect of wearing Big Boss face camo and using Patriot gun.

MGS 4 appeared in InTech paper yesterday. Reviewed by Gamers Hideout. Retial price at RM219 for normal edition.

The cons: signing up MGO is a hassle. nothing else. hahahaha

Lyndall Jarvis video (aka Laughing Octopus):

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=9RH2Kk1VX9c

Raging Raven... beautiful!

she use the same hairstyle! exactly Raging Beauty hairstyle.

U can kill her lethally on both form to get the face camo. It is part of the game. U get it no matter wat.

But if u kill both forms without lethal weapon, u can get extra stuff like the Beauty face camo and their figurine.

there is no HIM, only HER. hahaha.... they are all Beauty!

1) Tranq them in Beast form
2) collect figurine during Beauty form
3) Tranq Beauty form
4) Award Beauty face camo

Dont forget the figurine awarded during Frog Battle during Act 1.