i have 6 persons sharing a 4mbps streamyx here, with half of them xunlei user and another half online gamers (gg ga.re.na, i dunno why i type this word it auto-change "garen.a" to "flying spaghetti monster", and also dota). should i go for MAC or QoS in this case? even though 4mbps, the average speed im getting from streamyx after speed test was 3.5mbps, so i would like to set the rules this way, when everyone is heavily downloading, all will be getting a maximum of 3.5/6, which is around 500kbps, and while no 1 is downloading, the person using will get the maximum speed. the priority should go this way:
1. online gaming (low latency)
2. http/ VoIP
3. xunlei
is it possible to do it with polar cloud's tomato v1.27? is yes, how can i do it, can anyone enthusiast guide me with the step by step setup? thanks in advance

This post has been edited by cosmiqeddie: Dec 17 2009, 01:41 PM

ok, i have a problem now.
my original tmnet modem, Riger DB102 modem cannot works properly under PPPOE connection (which username n pass are type in modem), it keeps hang while surfing net, while Bridge connection (a new connection setup in windows which the user n pass are type in windows) works fine.
But now, all those QOS NAT function ONLY WORK under PPPOE connection, i noe i might be posting this at the wrong section, but this is so related to the connection im about to setup. In my case, should i change another ADSL modem which can use PPPOE without problem or Brigde connection can be setup too? which my PC is the HOST, all the other pc gateway connects to my ip.

i dun quite understand this, this is the reply from
setting up linksys

does that means i cannot control other pc's bandwidth if my pc is hosting?

i highly appreciate your splendid reply over my issue and i've got it solved. (although wrong section, but highly related ). i was too stupid to realize that i can actually use PPPOE with my WRT54GL as there is no phone line port behind (lol), and your guessing of my network structure was totally correct.

lets get to the tomato settings now but before that, i am a networking amateur with no QoS experiences so please bear with me if something stupid about network stuff came out from me.
First, i cant seem to find the IP/MAC function/option u mentioned in the post, as i only found "MAC address" under "advanced". so i'll just skip to the QoS part.

i configured my
inbound max bandwidth to 80% of 3500kbps, =2800kbps,
outbound max bandwidth 80% of 300kbps = 240kbps

and i cant find "ACK priority" under QoS. is victek's tomato so different from polarcloud's tomato? im currently using polarcloud's while victek's website seems down
http://victek.is-a-geek.com/tomato.html




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i would like to switch to victek's tomato to configure QoS and Nat that suits my network structure and usage, and also such good tutorial was provided, the only problem now is where can i get victek's tomato so that i can get started?
the official link of http://victek.is-a-geek.com/tomato.html is down, is there any alternative link for the downloads? i dun see any from the previous threads

when i choose victek's "WRT54G_WRT54GL.bin" to flash under adminstration, it says ".cfg file is expected", what should i do?

ok, ive got it switched to victek's after some searches on google.
so here goes my screen shot.

so will this work for these sequence of priority?
1. flying spaghetti monster/ dota
2. http/ youtube
3. orbit downloader
4. xunlei, ppstream

This post has been edited by cosmiqeddie: Dec 19 2009, 04:28 PM

i was clueless what to fill in the MAC and ip under ARP binding, could u guide me through? my home have 6 pcs starting from ip 192.168.1.102- 192.168.1.107. and the default gateway all directed to this linksys router which is 192.168.1.1.

and i just updated the IP/MAC bw limiter so here goes:


and also, there are few options under Qos like Basics Settings, Classifications, view graph etc, and the only things i've changed are the inbound and outbound rate/limit. i have no idea too what to configure under classification...(newbie)

anyway, before reaching the finalized settings, i've already having a big improvement in my net surfing experience, hopefully you are patience enough to guide me through all these

This post has been edited by cosmiqeddie: Dec 19 2009, 10:29 PM

ok, im starting to get the picture here. ARP binding SOLVED! thanks.
But what about inbound traffic? all by default was set to "none", does tat means downloads are not bounded by any prioritization? So if my housemate MAX his download in xunlei by chance, will my online gaming lags? or will IP/MAC limiter comes in the way in this case?
anyway, there are lots of test to be tried out before i can fine tune it as most of my housemate are having holiday, im using the line all by myself now.

and for classification under QoS, by setting up a new class, there are dst and src port, so which 1 should 1 choose for, say like i wanna let ga.rena's port 1513-1517 to be highest. and also War3 6112-6117. i choosed dst like u did, but, wat is src? and wat difference will it make?


Also, i've tried with my own pc, when streaming software like PPS or QVOD are running, my webpage loading time is slower. Does this falls under Qos too? QoS only manage outbound traffic, while loading a webpage depends on inbound traffic but PPS is swallowing all the bandwidth.

This post has been edited by cosmiqeddie: Dec 20 2009, 01:35 PM

nope, DL rate 500 and DL ceiling 3000, means if everyone using the line, all will get at least 500kb. while there is no 1 using, u will be getting all the line which is 3000kb. correct me if im wrong

This post has been edited by cosmiqeddie: Dec 20 2009, 04:30 PM

sorry for the spoon feeding, i've just read it and i will read more.

these are quite old posts, but after doing some searches, i still have no idea wat conntrack/netfilter does, but i followed, including setting TCP timeout>established from default 14400 to 120 and also the rest to 120.
as for xunlei, under it's option, there is a place where u can set to generate random port, even if u dun change the port, it will automatically prompt you to. and i guess this is why it is impossible to hunt the p2p port while it can be harder than striking jackpot.
And a question, to set class for a program (ppstream qvod etc), we need the port no. and the port can usually be found under options>network of the programs? if yes, my Qvod shows:

so i assumed the port to be 80, and under Qos, there is already a port for http which is 80 too, so Qvod stream through http i guess which is under QoS "high class", but when i tried Ganena Dota, it still lags significantly.
i've also checked Prioritize ICMP under Qos>Basic settings for better ping and gaming setting.
so my little assumption here, without setting the correct port for the desired class, it wun falls automatically under lowest, or will it?

This post has been edited by cosmiqeddie: Dec 20 2009, 05:07 PM

thank you so much red-queen.
what about your personal feedback from victek's tomato with the settings u made? do your HoN lags, or more specifically can u host a game without other complaining you when someone within your network having xunlei running at the same time?

Go to Status>Device List. in there u can see all active interface with their IP as well as MAC address, copy down and put it into ur ARP binding.

im back again.

i've set GG client with port 1513-1517 with highest priority and here goes the ps:


but i notice everytime i host game with xunlei running, it lags other player out still. with the details under qos, i noticed my 1513 port was under lowest priority by default:



how do i set all port 1513-1517 to highest? so that i can have better online gaming?

i see, so the Sport stands for src while D stands for dst. thanks again

im using the modem as yours which is DB102 riger. just set it to bridge connection on riger and PPPOE on WRT54GL. wrt54gl is router not modem, and if your qos is not working, its your setting problem, i guess not the modem's fault. try read through and i think u'll get the proper settings.

and i wonder why my tomato interface looks so different from yours even though the same version we are using

This post has been edited by cosmiqeddie: Dec 28 2009, 10:49 PM

i never classify any of the rules to fall under LOW, even my default i set it to lowest, but the pie chart shown most of the bandwidth falls under LOW when i run xunlei, why is it so?
and has anyone here tried DD-WRT v24 special ed? any feedbacks compare to victek's tomato in terms of QOS?

This post has been edited by cosmiqeddie: Dec 30 2009, 01:50 PM

i just cant get the configuration right for ruling xunlei and flying spaghetti monster even after reading lots of guides and tutorial:
http://www.decimation.com/markw/2007/10/03/tomato-qos-setup/
http://www.wi-fiplanet.com/tutorials/article.php/3800416
http://gazguzla.com/optimize-tomato-qos/
no matter what i do to my gaming client, port forward, qos highest, whenever xunlei starts to run, everything just fail. it was said not to capture xunlei's port, and prioritize only the known port, but still no luck after going through so much of trial and error.
when i classified gaming client with port 1513 to CLASS A, not even 0.01% of the bandwidth show up in the pie chart. im stucked X_X

if compare cfosspeed with tomato's qos, which 1 is better?

i've set the BW limit but its not working, heres my config:


supposingly the download speed at my pc (192.168.1.102) should get a DL ceiling of 500kbps, but under speed test using firefox, the speed max out at 1mbps. i wonder there is smthg wrong going with my settings.

EDIT:
problem solved!
Tomato RAF 1.25.8025.2, everything dun seem to work. but after changing to Tomato RAF 1.25.8515.2 ND, everything works fine, including BW limit and QOS class

This post has been edited by cosmiqeddie: Jan 8 2010, 10:07 AM