now both of my right headlamp n foglamp ada dead!!!!!...
mine now is 55K..new problem...hard to start..must be speed sensor problem..
PROTON SAVVY LYN club V2 - AMT manual added!, -best little car in the market-
PROTON SAVVY LYN club V2 - AMT manual added!, -best little car in the market-
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now both of my right headlamp n foglamp ada dead!!!!!...
mine now is 55K..new problem...hard to start..must be speed sensor problem.. |
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QUOTE(lazogirlz @ Jul 31 2008, 08:39 PM) schomatic.. u bought at 27k.. ist a full spec r3? got airbags and abs..? it is full spec... but no air bag and ABS le... or who at here got this feature?mine savvy sometimes feel jerking at gear 2 and 3. happen less than 7times after been using it for a month now and i bought new 1. when its happen jerking, i turn switch off and turn on again, the jerking gone.. for temporary im using this to fix my normal ride.. is there anyone know wat makes my gear jerking...? thanks.. been to Proton service centre, they using that digital plug in and check 1, but everythings was goin fine but my car still got jerking sometimes.. how to solve it... you may check below link for clearance... http://www.motortrader.com.my/NUS/articles..._468/page_m.asp Gear jerking? The problem u found... i think is normal AMT problem... Gearbox may be rough during auto-interchange gears, especially when stopped at the traffic lights. But if you press the brake slightly harder, you will find no rough sound at all. It is a manual gearbox with bolt on AMT system. No torque converter means you need to get used to using gears on hilly roads. or i might be wrong... haha... please read review at here... http://www.carsurvey.org/viewcomments_review_91120.html |
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mine is not AMT wor.. im using manual.. but i can start easily and never shutoff engine at traffic light.. just sometimes suddenly jerking problem on gear 2 and 3... normal city ride cost me almost 20cent per km.. quite expensive.. last time drive slowly like uncle also need 17cent+..
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Edited. The solution already provided in another savvy thread.
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anyone went for the technology fair? worth going?
Added on August 3, 2008, 4:42 pmfun day at the technolgy fair indeed! learn something new abt our savvy seems like our savvy CAN connect to aux audio force marketing 03 7804 8099 This post has been edited by lj0000: Aug 3 2008, 04:42 PM |
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I guess the hack works then.. hehe even at much cheaper cost then buying the stuff..will try over few days.
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QUOTE(lj0000 @ Aug 2 2008, 11:29 PM) anyone went for the technology fair? worth going? Added on August 3, 2008, 4:42 pmfun day at the technolgy fair indeed! learn something new abt our savvy seems like our savvy CAN connect to aux audio force marketing 03 7804 8099 QUOTE(lj0000 @ Aug 3 2008, 05:15 PM) wht did u learn abt our savvy? come come share wif us!wait, y we need bluetooth module to connect to aux? |
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QUOTE(scomatic @ Jul 31 2008, 07:38 PM) I think i know what u try to say already... haha... If want to use correct name, it can called R3 Zerokit + Proton Savvy. So outsider calling Savvy R3 lor... actual is not really R3, is just body kits R3. em.. to make it not 2 be more confuse... tis are the differences between satria R3 and Satria GTi:-Satria R3 Specification * 105kW @ 6100rpm * 168Nm @ 5600rpm Satria GTi *102.9 kW @ 6000 rpm *164.0 Nm @ 5500 rpm get what i REALY mean?.. same body n engine but performance are different cos has been tune by R3.. so, what are the differences between ur savvy R3 n others savvy car?.. ps/ u may compare it ur self with other satria 1.3 1.5 1.6 n also.. This post has been edited by savoc_am: Aug 4 2008, 10:59 AM |
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QUOTE(lazogirlz @ Jul 31 2008, 08:39 PM) schomatic.. u bought at 27k.. ist a full spec r3? got airbags and abs..? Sorry... last time i reply wrongly... it is Savvy full spec which got ABS mine savvy sometimes feel jerking at gear 2 and 3. happen less than 7times after been using it for a month now and i bought new 1. when its happen jerking, i turn switch off and turn on again, the jerking gone.. for temporary im using this to fix my normal ride.. is there anyone know wat makes my gear jerking...? thanks.. been to Proton service centre, they using that digital plug in and check 1, but everythings was goin fine but my car still got jerking sometimes.. how to solve it... QUOTE(savoc_am @ Aug 4 2008, 10:16 AM) em.. to make it not 2 be more confuse... tis are the differences between satria R3 and Satria GTi:- Mine Savvy R3 and normal Savvy are the same performance only... it is just the body kit different that all...Satria R3 Specification * 105kW @ 6100rpm * 168Nm @ 5600rpm Satria GTi *102.9 kW @ 6000 rpm *164.0 Nm @ 5500 rpm get what i REALY mean?.. same body n engine but performance are different cos has been tune by R3.. so, what are the differences between ur savvy R3 n others savvy car?.. ps/ u may compare it ur self with other satria 1.3 1.5 1.6 n also.. |
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quite confuse.
when i chk at trade forum, they mention our savvy use 14"/20" wiper. but when i measure it myself, its 16.6"/22". so which one is correct? since there is no size of 16.6", which one should we take it? 16" or 17" one? |
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wiper size - dunno leh...gotta check at jusco for the bosch wipers - got state the size for savvy..
Nice reviews.. [url]Link removed on author's request[/url] Being on the lookout for a small car lately, wifey and I have been doing a lot of test driving and so far the cars I have tested include the Naza Bestari 206, Suzuki Swift, Hyundai Getz, Proton Savvy, Perodua Myvi and even the just-launched-last-Friday Hyundai i10. From all that driving 3 things stood out... Number 1: the Bestari 206 is noisy. This is surprising as being a Peugeot owner, I expected the Europeans to be the most refined of the bunch. True, it generated no notable wind and road noise, but the engine noise was thrashy, coarse and the worst part is you need to thrash it to get any acceleration, so you'll be living with the noise a good portion of the time. The engine? Let's just say that this is so last century. It's weak, and aside from the decent torque arriving at an astonishing 2800rpm, nothing nice to say about it. It clearly lacked the punch to power the 206, and the autobox blunted that even more. The noise I already mentioned is almost always there, and the amount of noise when you floor the pedal is nowhere near the acceleration you get. Handling was good, though there was quite a bit of body roll in typical Pug fashion, but don't be fooled, the limits are still quite far off. Ride comfort was okay, a bit firmer than I expected. Built quality was good as far as I could tell, with no weird noises from the interior, though gaps were uneven here and there. Number 2: the Savvy is shockingly good. Again, I say shockingly as the response towards this car hasn't been exactly good, and most buyers gravitated towards the Myvi instead. After driving it I'd say that they don't know what they're missing... Refinement was very good for its class, and engine noise remained relatively muted, road noise and wind noise nothing to complain about. But the biggest surprise was the ride comfort and handling. It simply blew all the others (maybe tying the Swift) into the weeds. Damping was good, and even on the construction riddled Subang airport road it remained well behaved and bad roads were more heard than felt. And despite all that steering felt the best, very responsive and quick with decent heft. Reminds me of my old Satria Gti actually... Who says the Lotus association hasn't paid big dividends??? Power was actually decent despite the lowest on paper ratings, most likely due to the lack of a power-sapping torque converter. Engine noise was fine, no coarser or noisier than the Koreans. The technology in a car of this price is astounding, AMT aside, it comes with Drive-By-Wire. Best thing is however the reported fuel consumption, which is claimed to be up to 18km/L! Even after discounting the optimism in the testing, I figured you'd still end up with around 13-14km/L, which is still a lot. In auto mode the gearshifts were a bit slow as the ECU was retarded a bit too much I'd think, so you actually feel a bit of a jerk. In manual mode it also exhibited similar behavious, but after a while I got used to it and learned to release the accelerator a bit when shifting, which then made gearchanges as smooth as it could be with a normal manual box. Truth be told both wifey and I had a lot of fun in the car. To put things into perspective, similar AMT boxes such as the Selespeed and the Smart car generate a similar if not worse jerky behaviour, but once you get used to the release pedal thingy, it's fine. You wouldn't shift gears in a normal manual car with the accelerator pedal on full bore anyway, so I suppose we can't expect any different from the AMT. The interior was the only thing that bothered me. It was very plasticky, though the quality of the plastics were not that bad, and I've actually seen worse in a car costing nearly twice its price (I won't say which...) but to its credit, everything was intuitively laid out and fell to hand naturally. Pedals were also laid out properly unlike the 206 which seemed to be skewed to one side. But they could have at least put some cloth at the doors like the Saga lah... At the end of the day it's great in every way (plastics galore and size aside), and the only suspect is the reliability problems that have plagued Proton. Though recently quality has gone up a notch, there's still some way to go. The TUV certification and 5-year warranty does go some way towards addressing our scepticism though... Number 3: the Hyundai i10 is a great car for its size. I expected a car that size (and truth be told to be tincan-like and clunky to drive. Nothing could be further from the truth. Refinement was great; road and wind noise well suppressed, and damping is very good. Feels like a much bigger car. Of course handling suffers due to the height of the car, but nothing really bad. Just felt a bit wobbly at higher speeds. Interior room was also superb, considering its size. One trick that made its legroom feel bigger was to make occupants sit straighter and higher, which it effortlessly did with its high roof (the car is as tall as a Myvi!!!). I suppose for short commutes this is fine, but it would get very tiring to sit like you're on a straight backed bench after a while. And the rest? The Getz was actually the most well rounded of the lot, with a decent engine, decent handling, decent comfort and decent interior. Decent everything in fact, but nothing that stands out as being particularly bad or good. Not a bad approach really, look at Toyota... The Swift was clearly the most well built, though by a slim margin. Interior plastics looked fine but didn't feel good, being in some places nastier than the Savvy plastics, and felt curiously hollow. Engine noise was not good, and being one of the cars in this group with variable valve timing, power was just adequate. Comfort was also not a standout, though handling felt at the top of the group bar the Savvy which felt more nimble. Surprisingly, the Savvy's wheelbase is longer than the Swift, though by a smidgen, it's still something you'd never be able to tell from just looking at both. The Myvi was just plain disappointing. It handles like a strand of wet noodle, it isn't particularly comfortable, and built quality was just so-so. The engine was coarse and loud, was not powerful, and road noise was very memorable. Also, word is around that the fuel consumption is awful, in some cases with people claiming it costs about as much as their Wira 1.5, a car that is about 15 years older, is carburettored, has a 3 speed auto, and weighs about the same. The only reason why anyone should buy it is because of the perceived reliability of Peroduas. To make matters worse, it isn't cheap. I would say there is no reason, under any circumstance, that anyone should buy it, but the Myvi fanboys would come at me real quick. Just witness the mindless "Myvi rules..." posting in local forums... What will we be buying? Well, we already have a big car, and wifey just need it to commute to and from work, and our priority is in not getting into any more debt. Take a guess... This post has been edited by hypermount: Aug 4 2008, 09:11 PM |
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he got the savvy aa?
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QUOTE(tesla_rage @ Aug 4 2008, 03:55 PM) Let's just say, fair n balance review...Here's the updated version. The link to his blog was removed on his request.. Looking at small cars... Being on the lookout for a small car lately, wifey and I have been doing a lot of test driving and so far the cars I have tested include the Naza Bestari 206, Suzuki Swift, Hyundai Getz, Proton Savvy, Perodua Myvi and even the just-launched-last-Friday Hyundai i10. From all that driving 3 things stood out... Number 1: the Bestari 206 is noisy. This is surprising as being a Peugeot owner, I expected the Europeans to be the most refined of the bunch. True, it generated no notable wind and road noise, but the engine noise was thrashy, coarse and the worst part is you need to thrash it to get any acceleration, so you'll be living with the noise a good portion of the time. The engine? Let's just say that this is so last century. It's weak, and aside from the decent torque arriving at an astonishing 2800rpm, nothing nice to say about it. It clearly lacked the punch to power the 206, and the autobox blunted that even more. The noise I already mentioned is almost always there, and the amount of noise when you floor the pedal is nowhere near the acceleration you get. Handling was good, though there was quite a bit of body roll in typical Pug fashion, but don't be fooled, the limits are still quite far off. Ride comfort was okay, a bit firmer than I expected. Built quality was good as far as I could tell, with no weird noises from the interior, though there were some uneven gaps some places. Number 2: the Savvy is shockingly good. Again, I say shockingly as the response towards this car hasn't been exactly good, and most buyers gravitated towards the Myvi instead. After driving it I'd say that they really are missing out on quite a bit... Refinement was good for its class, and engine noise remained relatively muted, road noise and wind noise nothing to complain about. But the biggest surprise was the ride comfort and handling. It simply blew all the others (maybe tying the Swift) into the weeds. Damping was good, and even on the construction riddled Subang airport road it remained well behaved and bad roads were more heard than felt. And in spite of the comfy ride, handling was close to spot-on. Steering feel was great, very responsive and quick with decent heft. Reminds me of my old Satria Gti actually... Who says the Lotus association hasn't paid big dividends??? Only damper here was the steering material, it wasn't exactly nice to touch... Power was actually decent despite the lowest on paper ratings, most likely due to the lack of a power-sapping torque converter. Engine noise was fine, no coarser or noisier than the Koreans. Best thing is however the reported fuel consumption, which is claimed to be up to 18km/L! Even after discounting the optimism in the testing, I figured you'd still end up with around 13-14km/L, which is still a lot. In auto mode the gearshifts had a bit of a lag as the ECU was retarded a bit too much, so you actually feel a quite a bit of a jerk. In manual mode it also exhibited similar behaviour, but after a while I got used to it and learned to release the accelerator a bit when shifting, which then made gearchanges as smooth as it could be with a normal manual box. Truth be told both wifey and I had a lot of fun in the car. To put things into perspective, similar AMT boxes such as the Selespeed and the Smart car generate a similar if not worse jerky behaviour, but once you get used to the release pedal thingy, it's fine. I've driven both, and let's just say that the first time I drove the Smart ForTwo, I felt quite ill by the end of the spin around the block! You wouldn't shift gears in a normal manual car with the accelerator pedal on full bore anyway, so I suppose we can't expect any different from the AMT. The interior was probably the only place where it lost points. It was very plasticky, ESPECIALLY the door panels, though the quality of the plastics were not that bad, and I've actually seen worse in a car costing nearly twice its price (I won't say which...) but compared to the pretty i10 dash and the stylishly simple Swift, looked quite dowdy. To its credit, everything was intuitively laid out and fell to hand naturally. Pedals were also laid out properly unlike the 206 which seemed to be skewed to one side. But they could have at least put some cloth at the doors like the Saga lah... At the end of the day it's nice in most ways (plastics galore and size aside), and the only suspect is the reliability problems that have plagued Proton. Though recently quality has gone up a notch, there's still some way to go. The TUV certification and 5-year warranty does go some way towards addressing our scepticism... Number 3: the Hyundai i10 is a great car for its size. I expected a car that size to be tincan-like and clunky to drive. Nothing could be further from the truth. Refinement was great; road and wind noise well suppressed, and damping is very good. Feels like a much bigger car. Of course handling suffers due to the height of the car, but nothing really bad. Just felt a bit wobbly at higher speeds. Interior room was also superb, considering its size. One trick that made its legroom feel bigger was to make occupants sit straighter and higher, which it effortlessly did with its high roof (the car is as tall as a Myvi!!!). I suppose for short commutes this is fine, but it would get very tiring to sit like you're on a straight backed bench after a while. Another drawback was the cost cutting extended to the lack of an rpm meter... And the rest? The Getz was actually the most well rounded of the lot, with a decent engine, decent handling, decent comfort and decent interior. Decent everything in fact, but nothing that stands out as being particularly bad or good. Not a bad approach really, look at Toyota... The Swift was clearly the most well built, though by a slim margin. Interior plastics looked fine but didn't feel good, being in some places nastier than the Savvy plastics, and felt curiously hollow. Engine noise was not good, and being one of the cars in this group with variable valve timing, power was just adequate. Comfort was also not a standout, though handling felt at the top of the group bar the Savvy which felt more nimble probably largely due to its size. Surprisingly, the Swift's wheelbase is significantly shoter than the Getz and more surprsingly shorter than the Savvy, though by a smidgen, it's still something you'd never be able to tell from just looking at both. The Myvi was just plain disappointing. It handles like a strand of wet noodle, it isn't particularly comfortable, and built quality was just so-so. The engine was coarse and loud, was not powerful, and road noise was very memorable. Also, word is around that the fuel consumption is awful, in some cases with people claiming it costs about as much as their Wira 1.5, a car that is about 15 years older, is carburettored, has a 3 speed auto, and weighs about the same. The only reason why anyone should buy it is because of the perceived reliability of Peroduas. To make matters worse, it isn't cheap. I would say there is no reason, under any circumstance, that anyone should buy it, but the Myvi fanboys would come at me real quick. Just witness the mindless "Myvi rules..." posting in local forums... What will we be getting? Well, we already have a big car, and wifey just need it to commute to and from work, and our priority is in not getting into any more debt. Take a guess... |
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my car suddenly acting good to me. i got 6L/105++km rather than 6L/90km.
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QUOTE(hypermount @ Aug 4 2008, 09:16 PM) The Myvi was just plain disappointing. It handles like a strand of wet noodle, it isn't particularly comfortable, and built quality was just so-so. The engine was coarse and loud, was not powerful, and road noise was very memorable. Also, word is around that the fuel consumption is awful, in some cases with people claiming it costs about as much as their Wira 1.5, a car that is about 15 years older, is carburettored, has a 3 speed auto, and weighs about the same. The only reason why anyone should buy it is because of the perceived reliability of Peroduas. To make matters worse, it isn't cheap. I would say there is no reason, under any circumstance, that anyone should buy it, but the Myvi fanboys would come at me real quick. Just witness the mindless "Myvi rules..." posting in local forums... Added on August 5, 2008, 10:23 am QUOTE(death_nite @ Aug 5 2008, 10:02 AM) 6L/90km already a good figure compare to other cars in the same segment. i read a review in a local newspaper said that naza bestari FC less than 6L/90km (the test driver manage to get 50km for RM10)This post has been edited by mutt: Aug 5 2008, 10:23 AM |
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hahaha.. so funny... i surfing for the spec of bestari, swift,myvi..
Bestari-1.4 litre Peugeot TU3 1.4L Electronic multipoint injection=75bhp Myvi-1298cc,16v=86bhp Swift-1298,16v=67bhp realy shock! man... myvi hav most power all of them.. |
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QUOTE(mutt @ Aug 5 2008, 10:14 AM) Added on August 5, 2008, 10:23 am 6L/90km already a good figure compare to other cars in the same segment. i read a review in a local newspaper said that naza bestari FC less than 6L/90km (the test driver manage to get 50km for RM10) well, its a town driving. dats y i am surprise. |
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QUOTE(death_nite @ Aug 5 2008, 10:57 AM) i assume u did less accelerating and braking. this will contribute to a good FC. may i know how u measure the FC? as for me, i'll set the meter to zero right after the indicator start blinking. then i refuel and wait until the meter blinking again and that's my mileage reading. IMO that's the most accurate way to measure the FC. |
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QUOTE(mutt @ Aug 5 2008, 11:05 AM) i assume u did less accelerating and braking. this will contribute to a good FC. may i know how u measure the FC? as for me, i'll set the meter to zero right after the indicator start blinking. then i refuel and wait until the meter blinking again and that's my mileage reading. IMO that's the most accurate way to measure the FC. same like you did. i edy ordered zaptop vs. would like to c if there is any performance diff or not. as i read in savoc, amt user can feel the diff alot. if there is no diff, there goes my rm85 flying to drain. |
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