Well, that's the basic behaviour in LYN F&F.

I'm almost similar to you but, I'm for convincing myself to get one AMT... I'm still far from convinced.



hypermount, the AMT manual links, maybe it's a good idea to put it in the front page.

This post has been edited by dstl1128: Nov 28 2008, 04:22 PM

Want to know from the kaki's here, what the best tyre pressure for Savvy on 175/50/15 NCT5? Can compromise comfort a bit but more for handling & cornering.

bro hyper edy put it on the frontpages.

n guess what, the nru members bought that e-book and they shared the cost. really appreciate it.

wait, u hvnt bought ur savvy yet aa?

This post has been edited by death_nite: Nov 28 2008, 07:23 PM

my savvy (AMT) just done 50,000km service. very happy since my FC efficiency increased! travel from shah alam to cheras mon-fri, can get around 16km/L and im heavy footed driver plus traffic jam.

85km is the furthest mileage i made after my fuel indicator start blinking

my worst was 13.5km/L

i still can smile even i speed at 170km/h

how on earth to calculate fc?
no fc meter 1

For me la... just pump full tank... thn reset the mileage meter... thn until the next time i pump full tank again... i can divide the mileage to the liters used...

Jeff... i saw your blog... got a lot of information... and i saw the "Savvy Won 4 cars shootout in Taiwan! Malaysia Boleh!" topic... Anyway, Savvy MT really doesn't give any problems... AMT's have more problems i think...

For me la... Savvy is bad in acceleration (i mean from 0km/h... maybe i'm not used to the car)... 2nd gear no power... 4th gear ratio too low (i mean, 4th gear seems to pull me back... is it called high or low?)... 5th gear got weird weird sound... vry noisy car... not spacious... and i think lot of people dun like the design... i feel the orange signal in front is vry ugly...

Special experience i had... turn off engine but engine didn't stop.. brake light cannot off...

Positive 1 got alot... i think i dun hv to tell also u guys know... stable car, good at corners, good mid range acceleration, good top speed... Most importantly... burn less fuel...



Death_nite, thanks for the info... will try it later...

This post has been edited by Junyen: Nov 29 2008, 01:11 AM

bad review for my car. here:

1) noisy. should hv more sound proof.
2) gear ratio too low. thus pickup feel slower compare to other cars.
3) my fuel lid broken. but replace new one.
4) amt smtime give warning light. but realize in Manual mode no warning light occurred.
5) jerking. sc change new sensor.
6) power window button start to give problems/not sensitive. common problems in savvy. but easily solve with DIY.
7) rattling!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

good review?

1) fc good. now around 15-16km/l. previously around 13-14km/l. hopefully become better.
2) can take corner at high speed.
3) amt is fun!

i cant think any.

Jeff_lwh, satisfied?

thats the only short review i can give.

This post has been edited by death_nite: Nov 30 2008, 12:01 AM

For Jeff, as promised. another david midnight posting

I am shopping for a new car to replace my aging iswara 1.5 gli uk spec. It is a great car that served me very well for the past years,until more and more problems pop up and prompt me to replace it before the whole car fall apart. For that purpose, I did a very long winded evaluation, test drive as the new car will need to last at least another 5 years.

I had a choice between these, and test driven and evaluated all of them

Local - Myvi, new Saga, Bestari, waja,
import - City, Vios, Accent, sentra, latio

I can still remember the day Savvy was launched - months after Myvi. And I used to ridicule Proton for coming up with such an odd design. So its fondly called 'potong sawi' back then. After 3 years of its launch, I found myself putting my cold hard cash on it. Ironic eh?

So why I choose Savvy out of the stiff competition for my cash then? A few points stood out:

1. Looks:
'unique' design with strong lines, edgy look that no other car maker copy
Really liked the honeycomb back lights.
Furthermore with the aerokit, it makes savvy more appealing to me

2. hard to drive amt:
frankly, after 5 years driving on auto, I forgot how to use the stick.
AMT provided me with the right compromise. AMT is non-lossy, but its not butter smooth.
To master it, lots of practise is required, and it made me beam back to my days at driving school, struggling with the paddles.
Make me feel young again ^.^ and make me feel triumphant when I finally managed a smooth gear change.

3. easy to use amt:
as i say, its a compromise between auto and manual. I would not go back to manual in a jam prone city of KL, but i would like the flexibility and 'fun factor' of manual. AMT fits the bill.

4. fixable known problems:
strong forum support from lyn, savoc, nru, cari etc
this makes me feel confident on the potential problems to meet and how to solve them. not 100% fool proof but at least i have somehting in my hand

Drawbacks
1. Pre-sales service
Proton still havent woke up from the sleep, and did not train their staff properly
I got stuck at one point, on the h-line brakes, whether it have EBD or not. icare hotline says yes, then no, then yes etc
They did not update the website until i really yelled at them, wrote email to their boss etc.
However, it is then I made some friends at i-care and one of them told me abt the savvy problems. I will need to avoid cars before a certain date.

2. test drive
All savvy are pull out from the dealerships, so there are no test drive cars.
my first attempt is at a sin siang hin branch. The salesmen gave me a new car to round the housing estate.
Not very good, as it has all the AMT problems - like riding a horse! and its a brand new car!
I thought it would be a lemon, and tried again at PE. This time its the salesmen's own car.
its the first batch, fully serviced, and the AMT is really smooth. with permission, its driven to guterie highway for a spin. thats when i got hooked with the agility, speed, and firmness. at the end of the testdrive, i even pumped back petrol for the salesmen.

3. delivery time
as i specifically declined a certain batch of car... my car have to be built from scratch. Proton took 3 months at that, citing lack of part, too many overseas order blah blah.

my first 1000km:

In fact, the car is immediately driven to Penang right after getting the keys!
Really no regret. It sped like a silver bullet! it was a dark, raining stormy night. the car do not hesitate to grip on the road and in no time i was flying at 130km/h without me realizing it.

Problems encountered:
1. dropped off front car plate
- found the problem is the dealer who use 2 sided tape to stick. as the aerokit do not match the plate holder screw hole.
- have to teach the stupid foremen to use a file to mod it a bit to screw in.

2. dropped brake sensor:
- brake light always on
- just put the sensor back in the socket.

3. bad wiper:
- dint manage to claim it. bought rm13 silicon wiper from tesco to replace. works perfectly!

4. jammed door unlocker
- again, stupid foremen at SSH tried to fix by forcing the door handle open, end up scratches all over the place
- force them to replace new handle and panel for me.
- found the root cause of the stuck - the white stopper behind the handle is not installed properly.
- symptom is, the door handle (inside) when pulled, it will not return to position perfectly. fixed and done.

despite all that, it a truely joyful to drive a savvy. I feel like jeremy clarkson bashing a car's negetive points, but in the end of the day, feel attached to this piece of metal. The driving experience is simply not replicable in any other car.
It take corners after corners, every bent and curve like gliding thru them. it handles straights without hesitant, and dont even have to drop to 4th gear to accelerate further. it will not sprint like a bigger engine car, but its sufficient for me.

the car seat is a semi-bucket seat that is firm and comfy. even after 4 hours drive, i still feel fresh and ready to move on the next task. The 2 fold seat works well for me, though it can never fight with my old iswara. The aircond is proton's strength, and in savvy its especially strong and cold.

FC is always a constant point of discussion, and i really could not stand my old car's 9km/l figure. moving to savvy gives me 15km/l and I am more than happy.

I realise that the car is quite complete and i do not really need any modification to it. it came pre-tinted, aerokit, 15" rimms.
my itchy hands still.... in the end i modded these:
1. speakers. the stock speakers are really bad. there are no bass and no treble. swapped with a better one. DIY
2. funky head unit, but lacked mp3, usb. DIY still in progress.
3. need more sound insulator, i think in firewall and 4 doors. will do next.
4. got R3 mufflers with davidmu, and been revving more ever since. sometimes bringing to 4krpm to change gear. but these comes at a cost - drop to 12km/l

after nearly 3kkm in 2 months. I think I made the right choice afterall

This post has been edited by lj0000: Nov 29 2008, 02:03 AM

ok thanks..
so how about the transmission oil? do we have to change it at d 1k service?

80k km and counting and I LOL'ed at them who said this car is expensive to maintain..

Repair manual added in the front page.

Thanks everyone for your co-operation... Updating my blog with these NEW INFORMATION. Compiling some photos and Arranging articles from "www.carsurvey.org", LYN and SAVOC... Will write up about SAVVY by 3rd week of December (Dec 21 latest).

My Comments on Savvy from this forum. You know what?

1) Positive points STILL OUTWEIGHTS Negative points...
2) SUPER DUPER FC. 15km/l Averaged...
3) Excellent RIDE and HANDLING (Cornering at 120km/h)
4) TOP SPEED VERY HIGH for a Supermini. 170km/h (A tie with Renault Clio - Hey same engine right?). Higher than my Previous car: Iswara 1.5MPI(A) UK-spec which topped at 165km/h only.
5) Advanced "SELESPEED" type transmission (AMT).

NEGATIVE?
Let's not dwell it here... As long as I know will do...

how much nw for timing belt , 60k coming up next.

Dayco Timing Belt kit set rm380 100,000km with oil seal s. Take Note -Original renault & other spare part shop will only give u a 60,000km belt). 60,000km belts will be about rm50 bucks cheaper

from savoc. not inclusive of labour

Jeff_lwh,

abt the fc, most new user suffered bad fc. but it seems those senior user able to get 18km/l.

weird is one user at savoc.net able to get 23km/l.

based on bro hyper, his car able to get 20km/l.

mine fc from 13-14km/l at 1st. after 8k km, become 15-16km/l. highway 16-17km/l with average speed of 120kmh.

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Added on November 29, 2008, 11:58 pmnope.

1st service only change engine oil + oil filter.

This post has been edited by death_nite: Nov 30 2008, 12:01 AM

How on earth are you guys getting such high km/l?

For me I very very rarely get stuck in traffic. 95% of my driving is highway or regular town driving, and my overall average is always 13-14km/l only. Is it a heavier right foot issue?

yes

but at least i'll get 15km/L

and im heavy footed driver too.

Thanks bro death_nite


Sorry, just show off a bit!!! haha
Very happy to modified GTi spoiler in my ride!!! that's really cool!!

And another new rim!!!

although maybe i shall no said at here...

but i bang a myvi last month when i am reversing...

true, savvy is harder than myvi...

my rear bumper just got some of myvi paint but myvi need to knock out its door and repaint it...

but...

my money gone

Anybody here has a clear line cut on the problem fixed from 2007 to 2008 model?

I also test drove the 1st batch AMT from one of SA cars, no problem, smooth and I like it. But surfing around and asking around my circle of friends who owned it push me back from getting one.

i think new model will have new type of ignition coil (the separatable cable one)
so less problem coz the older model got old version of ignition coil and coil issue was common back then
u can read my problem on this matter few pages back

This post has been edited by padisawah: Dec 1 2008, 08:29 AM