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Headphones [REVIEW] 18 IEM reviewed and compared! (2/11/08), From low-end to high-end Universal IEM

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chingwooi
post May 15 2009, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(SeeD @ May 14 2009, 09:55 PM)
O_O ... PL30 scored quite high.

Anyways ClieOS, what happened to Koss ksc75? Does it even have a chance to fair against the PL30 or the EP630?
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Ksc75 is clip-type earphone whereas Ep630 is IEM, if you wish to hv longer playback time on ur mp3 player, I think EP630 is better.

P/S: I was wondering in between KSC75 and Razer m250, which one better? I know razer is gaming accessories but I'm just curious. hmm.gif

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post May 20 2009, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(kamikraze @ May 20 2009, 11:01 AM)
thanks ClieOS to make it clear to me.. easy to explain to my friends over this thing.. even Panasonic DJ100 cannot match On3? rm100 from DaViS..

*another question.. izzit worth saving for AD700 rather than getting other lower end headphone?
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Haha, borrow them ur onto to ur fren, let them hear it and make their own decision, lol
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post Jun 16 2009, 01:52 PM

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QUOTE(asasas @ May 20 2009, 01:11 AM)
hi ClieOS...need help on this..i have to choose between these iem

- jbl reference 220
- jvc marshmallow fx33
- creative ep-360
- soundmagic pl-11
- soundmagic pl-20

if neglect the price n accessories factor which one is better??i need an iem that has a good bass with enough airiness and spaciness (good soundtstage)

currently only owns sony hmp-70 and a cheap 'china sony' iem...so i want to ugrade abit (but still on low budget)..

hope u can advice me on this...cheers n thanks  thumbup.gif
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Few days ago I was scouting around the music and audio accessories section and I came across this JBL reference 220 at a very intriguing price so I decided to buy one for using at home with my lappy. Okay, so the item reached me just now from the seller tongue.gif I took it out from the box and first glance at the IEM gave me a nostalgic appearance, the Klipsch Custom-3 as the building material of the wire of this JBL 220 resembles the Klipsch Custom-3 cable, the cable is thicker than the C3 cable though, results in the weight heavier than the C3 one. Some say this kinda of wires are not durable and easily spoiled but so far all my IEM doesn't face this kind of prob so it doesn't bother me much. The IEM is wear in the normal style, not over the ear type and it seems to hv a very bad microphonic(when you rub the wire, you can hear the noise very loud) I picked the largest silicone ear tips( as I noticed that the largest ear tips always fit the best for me regardless it's the Shure, Klipsch, or Sennheiser) and I stuff the IEM into my ears. To my surprise, the IEM conferred very gd isolation, way better than the isolation of IE8, almost as gd as the seal of Klipsch Custom-3 if not better. Then I try to play some songs on my iPod touch, to my utter surprise, the SQ of this IEM has darn gd SQ for it's price. The bass of this IEM is almost like 75% of the IE8 bass(at half knob), bass definitely stronger than the Creative EP630 and Shure SCL2/E2G/SE102, about the same as the C3 bass if not stronger. Clarity/treble wise, this IEM clarity is really gd, again definitely better than the EP630 and Shure SCL2 one, a little bit inferior compared to the C3 one though. How about the soundstage? I've to say that the soundstage is not bad, the instrumental separation is not as gd as the one of C3 and IE8. How about the price? It's retailed at USD 99~RM300++ but Lipfvng is selling at only RM66( mine is purchased from forumer so it's cheaper than that blush.gif ) Anyway, this is really a gd IEM to go for if you're on tight budget, you can use the Fiio E5 to boost the bass and soundstage(not sure whether it works or not though as I ady sold my E5 xD) just my little opinion about the IEM notworthy.gif
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post Jun 16 2009, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(Paca @ Jun 16 2009, 01:59 PM)
chingwooi aka Clieos in the making? brows.gif
i might drop to clieos place..
who wif me?
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ClieOS and those pros will rolling on the floor laughing out loud if they see this xD I just simply comment on the IEM as it's pretty gd and the price is a steel rclxms.gif
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post Jun 16 2009, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(Paca @ Jun 16 2009, 02:42 PM)
u mean a steal? sweat.gif
did u know?
even the great didnt have the SENNHEISER IE8 like YOU do..
u r not that bad urself brows.gif
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Haha, it's just an expression , steal or steel doesn't really matter as long as you know what I mean tongue.gif He might not own the IE8 himself, but wait, halt and check his audio gears... you'll be shocking.gif


Added on June 16, 2009, 3:20 pm
QUOTE(hirari @ Jun 16 2009, 02:54 PM)
Well all of us could use as many opinions from anyone possible. Doesn't have to come from certain people only. wink.gif
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Yea, just try to gv ppl slight idea that there's gd IEM like JBL 220 existed at affordable price icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Jun 16 2009, 09:30 PM

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QUOTE(ClieOS @ Jun 16 2009, 05:37 PM)
There is no right or wrong opinion as long as you are honest (and that is the most important thing). Everyone hears and values things differently, so one shouldn't totally rely a single person's opinion.

Compare to many other forumers, I don't really have that impressive of an audio rig. I do have a few IEM, but they can't make up a rig by themselves.
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Yup, that's why I wrote my own short reviews regarding the JBL since I can't really find much reviews about it. Anyway, here's my conclusion about the ranking of the IEMs according to my own preference.

1st place~Sennheiser IE8: Wide soundstage , deep bass with high clarity, low microphonic effect due to soft wire material, noise isolation 60-70%. Warm sound signature.

2nd place~Klipsch Custom-3: Mediocre soundstage and bass, high clarity, has microphonic issue but not that obvious as the hook helps reduce it to min, noise isolation 70-80%. Bright and clear sound signature.

3rd place~ JBL reference 220: soundstage on par of the C3, bass of 60-70% of that of IE8 tweaked to half knob, clarity not as gd as both IE8 and C3 yet pretty gd, microphonic effect pretty obvious( by rubbing slightly one can hear the noise), noise isolation 70-80%. Sound signature in between bright and warm.

4th place~ Shure E2G/SCL2/SE102: soundstage not bad, bass kinda weak(improve with Fiio E5 pairing), clarity inferior to JBL reference 220 but better than Creative EP-630, microphonic issue is conspicuous even though it's over the ear type, yet slightly better than the JBL 220, noise isolation 60-75%. Bright sound signature.

5th place~ Creative Ep-630: soundstage so so only, strong bass but clarity kinda low, sound muffled, noise isolation not as gd as the Shure and JBL. Warm sound signature.

Just my opinion on the IEM I have smile.gif
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post Jun 16 2009, 10:00 PM

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QUOTE(Darkchaser @ Jun 16 2009, 09:51 PM)
Yeah, the JBL 220 microphonics was pretty bad, which is why I sold it to you biggrin.gif I needed a spare IEM for cycling/jogging, so obviously JBL220 is out.....

The replacement, Soundmagic PL-11, is great. Slightly less bass, but still a good sound overall, and much less microphonics smile.gif

Now I need my Atrios to arrive, then I'll retire.....until the next best thing comes around...... tongue.gif
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Haha yea, but consider the price and the SQ, can't ask much from it I guess. If you're looking for IEM that's suitable for sports, I think the Klipsch custom series would be a better choice. thumbup.gif
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post Jun 17 2009, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(Darkchaser @ Jun 17 2009, 10:07 AM)
I don't think the NE7M is available in Malaysia. And it's a bit risky to buy since it's not guaranteed to work unless you have an iPhone.

When I get my Atrio, I can compare how far it is above the PL11 tongue.gif
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Under this perspective I own only two IEMs that I find thoroughly enjoyable: the IE8 and the FX500. I won't go into detail with the IE8, it's being analyzed to death on this forum, for me it is simply THE BEST. I know there is that midbass hump and I can hear it too, but it don't bother me and if I drive them out of the Nuforce Icon it's gone.

The Shure SE530 is certainly a great IEM and has maybe better detail than the IE8, but the bass is somewhat lifeless and the smallish soundstage limits my listening pleasure. Comfort is also not the best.

The X10 can also sound great (though the highs are a bit too much rolled off for my taste). But every tip besides olives gives me hellish microphonics and I find myself fiddling with tips more than I enjoy. Lastly the soundstage is not very wide unless worn over the ears, which they are clearly not intended to.

The Atrio M5 is king of bass allright, but then again the highs are nothing to write home about. The soundstage is no better than the X10's and I've become rather touchy about that "in the head sound" since I own the IE8.

That's where the FX500 steps in and IMO it does everything almost as good as the IE8. It has great and even SQ across the whole spectrum, bass is very quick and punchy, mids and highs are great. Soundstage is second best to the IE8, wide and airy, even isolation is surprisingly good for an open IEM. Like I said before, I greatly enjoy the FX500 and can't find a single fault with it. Extracted from Head-Fi directly.

When ppl said lack in mids, mid bass, lack in highs, what does that mean actually?
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post Jun 17 2009, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(Paca @ Jun 17 2009, 11:06 AM)
well at first i thought you the one who wrote in ahahah thumbup.gif
well in head fi..
theres a link for all your question..
i will try to hook u up wif that ok
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LOL, I read more than I write xD Still learning how to write properly rolleyes.gif I only own one of the IEM above and I hv heard none of the rest, yet whistling.gif Getting either Westone 3, TF10 or Klipsch Image X10 soon rclxms.gif
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post Jun 17 2009, 12:36 PM

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QUOTE(Paca @ Jun 17 2009, 11:47 AM)
WHAT THE??
you ar so damn RICH!
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I can only get one of them, where got rich, just wanna try all the top IEM before resting to the one that I prefer the most smile.gif BTW, the rich guy had been MIA recently tongue.gif

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post Jun 18 2009, 03:51 PM

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QUOTE(killz23 @ Jun 18 2009, 02:34 PM)
Hahah..I've never tried FX 500 le..hahah no research whatsoever..haha..Now the person offerin 367..hahaha
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New? or used? still under warranty? Nego kau kau, slice the to Rm300:p

 

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