3 card poker? may i know what is that? 3 face up cards? i play hold'em and 7 stud but 7 stud i really don't get how to play
anyway anyone here into card counting?

Croupiers cannot predict the future. And there is no 100% success rate in getting the number on the wheel. Heck, most RL dealers who scam are aiming for a range of numbers, normally, 15 numbers, to be exact, 7 numbers to the left and right of zero seems to be the popular range since most auntie and uncles bet there.  Getting numbers in that range will surely attract a lot of attention and a lot of bets, probably to distract the surveillance since they are so many people there, can't know who exactly is the one that is pakating. The fact that some newbies could probably get the same result when he is not pakat-ing, you can't say that the dealer is scamming unless you have solid proof.

Anyways, no one can predict the future, the only thing the dealer does is either adjust the wheel speed to spin a little bit faster or spin the ball slower. There is a standard of 25 Rev per minute, but nobody follows it.

Most dealers know that RL could be manipulated, RL dealers or not. That's the reason why when there's heavy action and the table is losing money, the assistant managers would come and observe the wheel and ball spin. When it goes out of hand, the order is normally to do " Fast Wheel, Fast Spin", the would make the ball drop randomly because most people buy the same range, it would make people lose. Another inside news is that most new dealers are trained in RL, since most of them have no prior knowledge that results could be manipulated to some degree. And it is very rare for senior croupiers to crosstrain to RL.

If you don't believe me, there's nothing much I could do could I?The 2 year ban, I have no idea.

Normally the ones who get caught are they stupid ones. They either allow fresh bets, i.e, betting after the ball has dropped, or they delibrately give more cash chips. As to the recent monitoring, I don't really have a clue since most of the knowledge is based on hearsay.

By the way, contrary to other casinos, NO TIPPING IS ALLOWED in Genting. Whether the table is losing money or making money, genting pays you the same. Get more respect? I don't know, but all I know is that the dealers used the techniques learnt to avoid working. Since when people start losing money, they leave, hence, less work, less calculation. When the ball drops into the numbers where there's less betting, less work to be done. Lucky for the gamblers, nobody could get it right 100% of the time, on some days maybe, but not all the time and sometimes when you try each and every way, the ball still drops into the areas with the most bets, Get some, lose some...
As to your graph, pardon me for saying this, but 384 spins in 8 hours? That's 48 spin per hour. On days when games are fast, I average about 25-28 games per 1hour 20 minute cycle, and for weekends with heavy actions, about 15-20 game per 1hour 20 minutes, 48 games is way too much.
Even the electronics roulette, i.e. Touch Bet Roulette in Hollywood, the most I did was about 30 - 40 games, rarely touching 48 games, but if you graph is based on real data, then do try to prove me wrong.

the management didn't suspect anything?
100k is a lot man, if Casino management found it, that person may end up in jail

but how to pakat with dealer ?

pls pm me the contact if have any

wow...a major scam in genting casino and nothing the casino management can do,
wow...wow...and more now with money laundering to different accounts....

..you're the man......this will definately make a nice story and potentially a movie script

The term you are looking for is embezzlement.

"The largest uncaught and prolonged crimed in Malaysia" perhaps.

Lim kok thai will be mad if he found this thread.

I resigned in January, but the last time I went back to visit my friends, they say now they see the scams very seriously, many people get caught lately.

And one advice on scamming/pakat-ing, if you want to attract the croupier's attention to pakat, you've gotta get big bankroll, most dealers don't bother with small fish, since with big fish, their customer can normally get close to 10k in 1 -2 hours, and normal split is 7:3. I heard they place microphones in Hollywood Roulette tables, but i cannot confirm this. All I could say it, do so at your own risk, if you end up in lock-up, tough luck then.

As to the sour face, it's not really that the dealers could help it, sometimes when I felt happy, I would smile and try to get the numbers in Roulette with the highest bets, but most of the time, seeing those uncle and auntie talk shit all the time, you'd felt like slapping them and getting them to shut up.
As with the dealers dealing the card games, how would u feel if the customers decide to blow their cigarette smoke your way?

Another ex-casino staff lol.

I dont play big normally ... budget usually around rm200~400 per trip. But if the croupier could help, its easy to shot up to rm10k  easily ..

Just curious how they pakat using roulette ? any other table game to pakat ?

I think you can use embezzlement to sue these people.

"Menggelapkan wang syarikat", since well, the croupiers are stealing money from the company and embezzlement carries jail sentence I believe.

so u ppl all mean theres only one way to win roulette which is to cheat? dowan cheating like pariah lah...
i want to play like a pro ... and i want pro betting tips here dowan listen to fairy tales, children stories 

In Roulette, look for newbie dealers, normally they don't know how to spin, and their games are rather slow. The chips on their tables are rather messy.

Those dealers, once they get trapped in a certain area, very hard for them to spin to another area, at that point, you pounce and bet. However, like all strategies, there's a tradeoff, and this involves using large amount of time looking at the dealer and then only bet, instead of betting right away.

My bad my bad, sorry. Not 5 seconds. But I would term the time as, fast enough for you to cover the dozen bets, not enough time to buy the numbers, it's definitely <30 seconds.

Well, I'd believe part of your ketchup. Most 'expert' spinners in the casino always let ball go slow, as slow as possible, and the wheel speed to go with it. However, the regulation states you have to do a minimum of 4 Revs around the wheel in Genting, if not, you'll get a warning. Even if you do more than 4, if it's 4 <= rev <= 10, you'll attract the attention of the assistant managers/pitboss.

What I don't understand about the article you posted is, the first part says the 'techniques' of spinning, the second part dismisses it.

The first part says exactly what i learnt from my time in Genting. The predetermined point and such. i.e, say you want numbers close to zero, so you start spinning the ball at zero, and most of the time, the ball drops around zero. The problem is dealers are not allowed to look at the wheel while spinning. So, everyone just agak agak, when they pick up the ball, let say the previous num was 29, European Wheel, and the let the wheel spin further a bit, it should be around zero, and there you go.  The article does say many factors play into getting the numbers right, and I totally agree. Even if the wheel speed and ball spin is consistent, there are factors that would let the ball jump to another section all together. But all this depends on the design of the wheel itself. Since my experience is based on Genting, and as I said before, most of the wheels are fairly predictable, except the yellow one and the shallow square bracket one.

Remember the Cubans?  They laughed and said, “If we could do that, do you think we’d still be working?”. Well, if I could do that, I'll make sure I get to do Roulette everyday and pakat with customer, don't I. Why would I want to leave? The way to do that is go part-time dealing. I learnt 1 game, RL only, so if i decides to go work in the weekends, I'll for sure deal Roulette. But since my skills aren't perfect, I'd be better off studying. The last time I went there, I came about this same wheel that I dealt before, from what i recalled, it was fast wheel and fast spin, and the area would repeat, within 6 - 8 numbers, and yes, it did, for about 3 - 4 games. But I lost touch, and lost it. I assume you would think 3 - 4 games is not enough to prove anything, and I'd would have to agree, but for that 3 - 4 games, I got the areas of number and I wanted.

In the end, it's 2 sides, believers and non-believers. You are the non, I'm the the believer, but believer as I am, I'd think this 'skill' is part art, part science, since it all depends on the 'touch'. Lose the 'touch, lose the control of the result.s

wait for my friend become croupier, then find him in genting

The easiest way to run away, is to tell the people, there's no 100% guarantee that it is always accurate. If you prepare say rm1k, and then lose it, I cannot be responsible, if you win Rm10k, you have to share with me, that's the terms, normally.

Why do you not see dealers drive Ferraris?
In foreign countries, I have no idea, in Genting, I have a slight idea. If for General Gaming Area, say you let the table lose, say.....100k to one person only, I'd certainly tell you, that you wouldn't have to deal Roulette for around one month. My friend paid this much, and he got this treatment. But let say you pay out 50k to one person, the next day you still dealing Roulette but you lose a lot of money, they are gonna send you to deal some game where it doesn't depend on you that the table win or lose.

The supervisors says that it is purely coincidental, unless there's anyone who works in the Casino Deployment before that's going to tell me it's coincidental, I'm gonna believe this coincidence.

You see, that's why they don't drive Ferraris. Once you become unprofitable to the company, they are gonna assign you somewhere else, where you become profitable. So the scammers try to grab as much as they can. And since the seniors gets trained in another game, the chances of them dealing Roulette becomes less and less. So there's no way RL dealers can drive a Ferrari, but they definitely can make a lot of money using this "Dealer signature" thing.

By the way, if you want to exploit this Dealer Signature thing, just act like you very rich, and bet a lot of money, a lot of money, a lot of money, attract the dealer's attention. Once the dealer tries to fish you, act like you bite, and make some quick buck while he spins to the places that you bet. You can run away and not share. But it will of course spark the dealer's ire, and you better not meet him the next time.

Any strategy on roulette ?

hahahaha
boss.......this kind of software is useless in casino....
it is hard to predict...
there are too many variable ........eg: speed of the wheel, the speed of the roulette ball, the size of the ball, what kind of wheel.....
dont you guys notice it or not.....if the table is losing money....the supervisor will talk with the dealer to speed up the wheel or spin the ball faster.......
this act happen..........

in genting aint got way to win money....
unless u got a loaded capital.....
the blackjack table also they equip with a shuffle machine where.......cc (card counter) also not able to count the card......

too bad.....
i dont gamble......
i just help the ah loong to win the perfect loser money....

or pawn business

10 few years ago, i got a nice seiko watch for RM60. That oldman was out of cash and needed taxi $$ to go back