I used to work for genting company and I got to know this random guard.. talked to him a few times about casino stuffs.. He told me once we was on duty at around 3 something in the morning, he saw a very huge genie guarding inside the casino. Well of cause there are other huge genies guarding around but there's this particular one very very huge. Said that many people brought their genie along but always lose to genting's genie. So people, it's impossible for you to win money from Genting cause at the end of the day, you'll lose more than you gain + time consuming! Genting casino rank 3rd in the world and is the fastest growing casino in the world I think

genting also scared to lose.  gamblers should hit and run and play safe. play only good tables.

why genting need to scared lmao .... sg he also got casino what ...

I got friend working in the casino. Im underage if not sure get kang tao from him.

he pakat with my friends parent before la. haiz

I think pakat can be many ways, eg
- you lose but he still pay you
- you win and he pay you more than he should
- you lose and he never take your chips away
- you exchange chips and he give you more than you should get
- your neighbour win but he pay you instead, if neighbour not watching carefully

The "eye in the sky" can't see everything, normally concentrate on the big games only, if you pakat for smaller amounts, can get away with it.

majority genting win all the time

just imagine the game caribean stud poker, the 2.50 for the bonus each day, the jackpot can accumulate at least 60k for 20 tables by just collecting 2.50 for 8 players for each tables. just 2.50 collecting for 20 tables only, can collect around 60k each day not to mention gambling more than that for other so  many other different tables.

More than thousand tables in genting, just imagine each day genting can earn millions.
even have seen high roller winning more than 200k -300k each person by gambling 16k each round in bacarat. today win and tomorow the gamblers came back and lose back. no stopping win want to win more and lose want to win back.

High roller always bring 20k -50k to gamble each visit. each round 5k - 10k. win fast and lose also fast. A table lost 1 million to 2 million, but genting can recover from other tables winnings just like peanuts.

win or lose also get addictted by going to genting and gamble back or lose back. so no point one. even have ask alot of regular gamblers, from their experience, until today lost or win, majority say have lost alot and cannot recover. win a little want to win more.

a aunty win 2-3k at first but lose back a another 3k continuing playing. early win after that due to nothing to do go and gamble back and then lose back.

a guy win 16k but never stop continue playing lose back

Genting is launching a new game call elite bacarat at international room . a different way of playing bacarat where the gambler can raise or switch between banker n players, late action, late tie etc during the game in progress. computerise chip used and odds is given.

Advise dont be greedy and dont play long. have to control yrself, addiction is there. or else will regret later on.

For info on different worldcard green,silver, gold, platinum

green is for normal/common gambling area
to upgrade from green to silver, have to bet min Rm100 at rm100 table for 36 hourly yearly monitor by the pit boss or bet 2k or 10k above every bet.

need to maintain certain gp points for 3 years or else will be downgraded. need to play in IR room in order to have more points or else ordinary gambling place will be very little points earn.

eg IR rooms min rm100 at RM100 table for 1 hour may be can get 3-5 points else ordinary gambling  table  for 1 hours will be 1- 2 points earn

from silver to gold card need to bet min RM300 at RM300 table yearly for 36 hours. or more. In vip section min table Rm500, Rm1k, Rm2k and will be monitor very closely by the pit boss.

Different worldcard will be given to different standards of people, if u were not in the standard or lucky they upgrade but majority cant manage to maintain the requirement and many were downgraded. so no point. majority of goldcard come to ir room or ordinary section to play bcos alot cant afford the min bet too high and small timers wont dare to tumpang bcos pit boss is looking and the high roller wont let u. dont play at high limit table if cant afford.

In vip section, gamblers need to bring rm10k above to gamble. and the environment there is high class not like outside. very strict, smart casual etc. specially train pit bos and security is very tight.

every worldcard have their respective section to accumulate their points, whereas if gold worldcard goes to IR room or ordinary gambling section will get lower standard minimum point only. so in order to maintain the points not to downgrade have to play big at the min betting requirement and table or else sooner or later point will expire in 3 years and will be downgraded as well to ordinary green worldcard.

need to occasionally go to genting to gamble. For higher ranking world card eg goldcard, platinum, silver card. alot of $$ lose in order to maintain the worldcard.
Dont play play. encourage gamblers to visit genting more oftenly and gamble.
gambler and earn gp point  and use for rooms or food and gambler to earn more point to maintain the requirement. alot of $$ lose already unless always win.

the $$ lost is more than the gp points earn. the $$ can eat luxury meal abalone etc or even book suite hotel more than enough.

even genting give free rooms and food, free ride bus , people also dont go. encourage more people to gamble. temptation is there to gamble

the percentage of winning is low.

No used of having goldcard or platinum unless u have alot of $$ to gamble or else sooner or later will downgraded.  Gp point will lapsed in 3 years time for the day a person earns the points. World points is 2 years time frame

whenever yr worldcard is slash against the terminal in or out, the management know what limit of table the person is playing high or low end table. so the grading also depends on it as well. Points earn for some people wont used it bcos need to maintain to avoid downgrading of worldcard. so need to gamble more and occasionally go up to genting to gamble in order to maintain points. either lose or win more but majority lose more.

Win abit or more is enough for the day, dont lose back or else will regret and heart sick bcos lose $$ at the end of the  day. Time &  Effort wasted. come think of it is rather stupid if lose back right. already win dont want.

majority gamblers at first thought of winning abit then luck came in want to win more greedy but at the end of the day lose back. and have start all over again. temptation to gamble is great and greedy

summary out of 5000 tables 100 tables lose $$ but the remainder 4900 tables win have excess to cover the 100 tables loss. so imagine genting is very cash rich everyday full house especially peak season even pack. round robin game, gamblers bring in $$ fight among other gambler + - and then the remainder will be gentings $$ if all gamblers cannot win back

happy gambling and good luck

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Added on December 8, 2009, 6:04 pm
wah rm 70k ar....how to lose back wo....if i won rm 70k i wont so fast give back...probably never will....she must be playing with rm 1000 per hand!!!

walao...gonna faint   

yes, they do. Bet 0.40 cent also can drop, try new illegal internet shop or fren recommendation. But need to play few hours.

Tips : From 10pm to 2am morning..chance to drop.
        From 10am to 2pm afternoon...
Another tips, if play roulette, try playing 1 or 2 extra slot games.    normally good payout, especially moon panther or silent samurai. dolphin also not bad.    If you dare to bet big i.e. RM 8 per bet, in roman similar to pirate treasure pro, could be big. Saw someone win RM 6k. 

Seen indo playing just 0.40 bet. Won about RM7k!    but need ppl to play...and dont go to empty shops. corrected.
I won 2 random jackpots in illegal internet.    Overall, i win > RM 15k slots & roulette until they scared let me play.    ppl there say me 'champion' 
Play smart, dont be greedy.

p/s : if u lose and follow my tips..dont blame me, just some luck. 

lol....win 6 figure..still wanna 'sapu' illegal cc...

I hv been practically a heavy roullete player. I can simply use 150 to win up to 2k within an hour.  I hv few strategy to use with. But of coz there will be a bad day.

1) First Of all. Think ur target winning. For example try to think winning at least 100% off ur modal. U bring 150 back run away with 300. The more ur target winning the more chances u lose back. If u could win 50 everyday its good enuf.

2) Do steady at most of the time. Dont rush ur self. For example u bring lost 100 , Then u bet 200 for the next 1:1 odd , Yes of coz if u are lucky enough u win back the previous 100 but if u lost this will make u totally out of mind.

3) Roullete is not a math. Even The great Albert Einstein was quoted as saying, "The only way to beat Roulette is to steal the money when the dealer's not looking." In a sense, he was correct. His point was that there is no way to employ some mathematical configuration of bets to overcome the house edge. Absolutely true.

4) Any discussion on progression betting would not be complete without addressing some of the more famous systems such as the Martingale, the Grand Martingale, the d'Alembert, the Labouchere, Fibonacci or Oscar's Grind. With the exception of Fibonacci, these systems are up-as-you-lose, negative betting progression techniques. And each has been directly responsible for the financial ruin and even suicides of many unknowing gamblers. Generally, these systems are touted as ways to consistently beat the casino with simple wager manipulations. What happens in actual practice is this: Players will indeed accumulate lots of small wins. But occasionally, a huge loss wipes out all the profit ... and more. In the long run, the player always loses.

5) Stop playing when u lost 2 time straight in row if u are wining at first. Bare in mind, Lose little better than lose all. Hv a good day then come again try nexttime.

6) Here i show u 1 simple strategy. Where it works for all ppl in every roullete, Most online casino with webcam.

7) Choose the table which is minimum 1 dollar bet for a try. Bet this numbers with 1 dollar.

0,3,2,1,4,7,8,9,12,15,14,13,16,19,20,21,24,27,26,30,29,28,31,32,33,35

If u lose for 1st time, Double bet with 2 dollar each. No matter u win or lose u need back to 1 dollar.Do not up in martingale way to high as that might risk urself and most of the ppl cant effort . If u are wining ,Use this scale 1:2:1:2:1:3. If u are losing 1:2:1:1:2:2

PS: I beat many illegal casino (cc) , Most of the cc doesnt keep more than 1k. The boss/person incharge come to see me and they keep asking me how i can win everyday like that.

If u feel this strategy works i feel happy for u. I hv alot working strategy as well. If u feel this strategy didnt works for u , Just ignore this. However, Gamble is not a good habit. If can quit it. Dont ever greedy all of time. Cheers

  I think better dun use the word *illegal* here, it's an open forum    maybe just refer to them as "local c" or "neighbourhood c" or some other less dangerous word 
Juz my 2 sen worth ....