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post Aug 18 2008, 02:55 AM

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QUOTE(zhiming @ Aug 18 2008, 02:13 AM)
for those china 1, they will send back to china...for those malaysian dealers , last time a fren of my bro dunno somehow he get caught due 2 pakat with customer, then de police only bring them 2 de lokap den after u paid bout RM 3500++ like tad ,then they will release u....but dunno tis is true or not la....but often dealers get busted bcz of pakat with customers since no proof from physics...they are not actually 100% predict the outcome but they can spin to certain area whether zero section or 5 section...
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so u ppl all mean theres only one way to win roulette which is to cheat? dowan cheating like pariah lah...
i want to play like a pro ... and i want pro betting tips here dowan listen to fairy tales, children stories sweat.gif
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post Aug 18 2008, 07:13 AM

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QUOTE(shinobikit @ Aug 18 2008, 04:21 AM)
pro betting? lose until u pokkai.... there is no such thing as pro betting...
come on ....come on...tired of hearing of grandmother stories and fairy tales
about i heard this fella got do this, that fella got do this, pakat here pakat there ... doh.gif

come lah .. i want to know how to play smartly and which game has the highest chance of winning.

anyone here with smart ideas, we would like to hear ... icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Aug 18 2008, 06:16 PM

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QUOTE(Joehans @ Aug 18 2008, 05:20 PM)
For example, in the letter from the former roulette dealer, the dealer asks: “How long would it take to learn to spin a roulette ball exactly four revolutions before dropping?” The implication is that if one can perfect the skill at this level, then one can master the technique for actual casino conditions. I don’t believe you can rationalize in this way. Even with only one revolution and a super slow rotor, a significant margin of exists. As you increase revolutions (eight and nine revolutions are rarely seen, and 10 to 12 are considered very few) and pick up rotor speed, the margin of error will compound quickly eventually wiping out the skill factor.
These are just a few of the many factors that contribute to the unfeasibility of section shooting. I hope to show that section shooting or steering would be infinitely more difficult and complex than most believe.

A section shooting dealer must first push the rotor perfectly to a practiced, pre-determined speed. The ball must then be placed into the track perfectly at a pre-determined starting point. The ball spin would then have to begin with the same practiced initial velocity, carrying the ball perfect around the track a consistent number of revolutions before drop off. These are the physical skills that would have to be perfected. It would not at all be just a matter of interpreting observations of events that had already occurred.

Roulette dealers of this type visibly and with emotion try to “place” and “aim” the ball as if trying to steer, and mistakenly believe they can affect the outcome

When you read the views of the former roulette dealer and pit boss in Blackjack Forum, it becomes clear that these people really believe what they say is fact. This is not surprising. It seems that after people work in gaming for a short time they fall victim to the “I’m a Pro” Syndrome. After performing the same actions repeatedly, day in and day out, they convince themselves that they “should have” and therefore “must have” control over these actions.

I also decided to give the accused a chance to tell their side of the story. I asked a close friend and triple sharp, all-around gaming executive, Gary Saul, to help me find the top wheel dealers in Las Vegas. Our research led to a couple of Cuban dealers who worked together in a major casino. This was no surprise, since the best roulette dealers in the world come from Cuba, the Dominican Republic, and Puerto Rico. Having spent time in the casinos of the Dominican Republic and Puerto Rico, and having watched the Cuban dealers work here in the states, I can vouch for their incredible mastery of and dedication to the wheel. With a combined 75 years of dealing experience between them, both in Cuba and in the U.S., they were asked for their opinions regarding the recent controversy. They laughed and said, “If we could do that, do you think we’d still be working?”

come on lah just 5 seconds?? coool man..nice BS....now i have serious doubt about you ever being to casino at all hmm.gif
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thank u joehans, hahaha... like this lah eveyone oso can learn one... come on come on... anyone got more smart tips? icon_rolleyes.gif


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post Aug 18 2008, 10:08 PM

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QUOTE(shinobikit @ Aug 18 2008, 06:36 PM)
u want tips?

go RM5 table... change colour chip...

got 37 numbers rite? buy 35 numbers with each RM5, (35 x RM5 = RM175)...
the chances of wining is 35/37 = 94.59%

each round u will be earning RM5.... after 10 rounds u will be earn RM50 and runaway... smile.gif but this is risky.. more you play more chance u will lose...

so... prepare RM350 and each bet RM10...
after 5 rounds u can earn RM50...
if the ball dropped on the 2 numbers u din buy, meaning u have no luck at all and please dont step into casino again  thumbup.gif
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ok liao, why not you play yourself doh.gif


Added on August 18, 2008, 10:19 pm
QUOTE(kaiserreich @ Aug 18 2008, 06:54 PM)
Well, if I could do that, I'll make sure I get to do Roulette everyday and pakat with customer, don't I. Why would I want to leave?
haizz.....yes tell us lah...if you can winning and winning this way then why you dowan to play everyday...
u say before that u can just walk in casino on that same day you resign and the casino cctv ppl are stupid cannot recognize your face there
and never stop you....you so good then....so why you dowan easy money like this? haizz....

QUOTE(kaiserreich @ Aug 18 2008, 06:54 PM)
The way to do that is go part-time dealing. I learnt 1 game, RL only, so if i decides to go work in the weekends, I'll for sure deal Roulette. But since my skills aren't perfect...
1st u say like that then now you say like this..you very big joker.... laugh.gif rclxms.gif

QUOTE(kaiserreich @ Aug 18 2008, 06:54 PM)
and the area would repeat, within 6 - 8 numbers
But I lost touch, and lost it, but for that 3 - 4 games, I got the areas of number and I wanted.
haizz... dont just say ...say.. which number repeat and repeat again? how u play, how you divide wheel sector, and
so easy tracking the numbers....then how you lost touch??? tell us here ..... we learn and learn for all ... thumbup.gif

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post Aug 18 2008, 11:34 PM

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QUOTE(zhiming @ Aug 18 2008, 10:51 PM)
wait after he worked for a few months den only ur fren noe what is going on inside n share ur fren experience here 2 those who didn believe...
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so many casino in this world, and so many billion billion money investment by casinos, you think can cheat casino
and casino ppl so stupid never learn this trick then simply allow all u ppl to do this ka tongue.gif

good and best jokers in lowyat.net

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post Aug 19 2008, 12:04 AM

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QUOTE(zhiming @ Aug 18 2008, 11:50 PM)
ok , for those who worked in the casino as a roulette dealer for at least a few months , sure they say they can predict the outcome...since last thread , 2 ex-roulette dealers , now 3 ex-roulette dealers say that it can be but not 100%...it's only need the 'touch', if more roulette dealers from genting found this thread , they will tell you the same thing.
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so many casino in this world, and so many billion billion money investment by casinos, you think can cheat casino
and casino ppl so stupid never learn this trick then simply allow all u ppl to do this ka tongue.gif

good and best jokers in lowyat.net

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Added on August 19, 2008, 12:13 am
QUOTE(kaiserreich @ Aug 18 2008, 11:36 PM)
Sorry for the confusion there.
Like I said, I don't have perfect skills, and I can only predict the result once the ball spins
this is why we check this forum to learn how u do it! i also asking u many times dont just say say, come and show it all here
everytime i asking u to tell how u do, u also cannot reply, always wan to kungfu dowan to tell us here how u predict?????


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post Aug 19 2008, 02:52 AM

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QUOTE(shinobikit @ Aug 19 2008, 02:28 AM)
you want a winning tips i give u tips based on a simple probability math...
[quote=shinobikit,Aug 18 2008, 06:36 PM]u want tips?



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post Aug 19 2008, 03:42 AM

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QUOTE(shinobikit @ Aug 19 2008, 02:28 AM)
you want a winning tips i give u tips based on a simple probability math...
QUOTE(shinobikit @ Aug 18 2008, 06:36 PM)
u want tips?

go RM5 table... change colour chip...

got 37 numbers rite? buy 35 numbers with each RM5, (35 x RM5 = RM175)...
the chances of wining is 35/37 = 94.59%

each round u will be earning RM5.... after 10 rounds u will be earn RM50 and runaway... smile.gif but this is risky.. more you play more chance u will lose...

so... prepare RM350 and each bet RM10...
after 5 rounds u can earn RM50...
if the ball dropped on the 2 numbers u din buy, meaning u have no luck at all and please dont step into casino again  thumbup.gif
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come to lowyat and want to teach ppl the worlds most dumb system, ask ppl to cover every number in roulette table
then if win u win 5 ringgit and if lose lose all 175, still learning probability is it, what probability u talking here?
come and show here how to recover the 175? cannot recover then want go back ask you mother more money to gamble is it? tongue.gif

if u dont have system or dont know how to play then better u dont gamble and go back to school sell nasi lemak liao doh.gif
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post Aug 19 2008, 04:49 AM

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QUOTE(shinobikit @ Aug 19 2008, 04:25 AM)
gosh... u failed ur maths issit....
anyone else agree that my 94.59% winning strategy is dumb?
of course its so dumb system, you teach ppl to play $175 covering all numbers with $5 chip in roulette all the time
simple maths will tell thats betting $175 just to win $5.

u so dumb think first why casino never worry of ppl playing ur dumb system??????????

casino will laugh because casino know u dumb system if kena then sure lose till pokai cannot
recover back the $175, maybe u like playing like this and once pokai go back home ask more money from mama to
gambling again tomorrow using your dumb system doh.gif

again i tell u here, if u dont have system or dont know how to play then better u dont gamble and go back
to school sell nasi lemak liao doh.gif
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post Aug 19 2008, 06:19 PM

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QUOTE(shinobikit @ Aug 19 2008, 06:29 AM)
this strategy is called "saw a tree with a knife"...

i use repetative of high winning chances instead of  one hit of less chances..

i win little, but at least i can secure my winning chances smile.gif
so... if you think my strategy is dumb, so what's yours fcking so-called brilliant system?
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yes lah dumb idiot.... if don't know how to play better use the knife and saw your dumb brain vmad.gif


QUOTE(shahjees @ Aug 19 2008, 08:43 AM)

Added on August 19, 2008, 8:28 amhi good morning guys, how's all the gambling going? doing good i hope.
ok here's a quick run up before i go up hill to my beloved 'office' by 10am.
the security software are simply designed to detect wheel abnormality or a biased wheel on any given table,
a quick run up of your above numbers 35, 28, 12, 29, 7, 32, 25, 32, 0, 5, 17, 1 in my system here shows a standard
deviation of 0.56 which is absolutely normal and would easily pass wheel security checks.

here's the results of your numbers
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but the moment you add up loads to the same sector for ex. i'll throw in 19,3 and 15 to the system here
and the security would easily detect abnormality in the wheels and will raise the casino's zonealarm  tongue.gif

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I am surprised to read that you managed to get into hollywood while working there?
Because as i know those guys in CSOD are super efficient, and any banned patron or staff
entering the casino would be caught for trespassing within 10 minutes??

I also managed to speak to Mr.Ravi CSOD the other day on regarding to wheel manupulation and he laughed at me saying that
all croupiers antics are not just captured but superimposed and embossed in onto the casinos $400 million surveilance
camera in 3D ??

anyway, play safe and wishing you guys happy punting  laugh.gif
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haloo shahjees..... what software and where to download or torrent this one?
come on...come on....please tell it all here, hehehehe.... i wannna learn a lot from all the profesionals like u rclxms.gif

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post Aug 19 2008, 06:52 PM

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QUOTE(kaiserreich @ Aug 19 2008, 01:28 AM)
When it's time to spin, look at the wheel speed, fast or slow, or normal, just agak agak will do. So then, the number. See what number it is at, once the dealer takes the ball and spin, see which number/area that the ball was launched. Now the speed of the ball matters. If it's very loud, means it's fast, and vice versa, no need to count how many rounds the ball make, but if you want accuracy, it might help a little. Write them down and make your prediction at the next game.
haizz.... now u say have to see the 1st spin first to agak2..... the 2nd spins results doh.gif

haizz....u forget ka that the roulette is no spinned by robots for u ppl to predict it....
its spin by another human where can predict liao....

haiz.....nevermind lah ... i just went to professional gambling site and read what the professional gambler there say about ur
wheel spin prediction:-


I have several questions for those that posted positive comments regarding Dealer Signature.

Q. Do dealers offer their 'Signature' abilities to clients ? If so, how much money do they make - for their services ?.
A. I don't see any dealers driving new Ferraris.

Q. Do dealers inadvertently produce a 'Dealer Signature ?.
A. I don't see any clients buying new Ferraris with money they did'nt already have.

Q. Do managers identify that there are dealers who have a 'signature' ?. If so, how much money do they make - for offering the dealers services to clients ?,
or, does the manager fire the dealer and put him/her on a 'Casino Employment Blacklist' of dealers ?,
or, do they promote the dealer to an inspector to reduce liability (unlucky dealers) ?.
A. I don't see any Managers driving new Ferraris with illgotten gains from 'Dealer Signature'.

Q. Do many clients play 'Dealer Signature' ?.
A. Thank god many clients play this 'System', they either play with it or against it. That's why they keep losing their Ferraris to pay for their gaming habits.
(Client on phone to Bank - "system working, please send more money !")


Q. Does 'Dealer Signature exist ?.
A. Yes it does,
Casinos profits not only prove it exists, but also, that it relies upon its existence. In fact, we promote 'Dealer Signature' by providing number display boards
to enable the clients to recognise it more quickly and bet on it.In conclusion, I have been in the gaming industry for 32 years and,
Yes, I have come accross; and fired, for misrepresentation; dealers who did offer their 'Dealer Signature' services (under false pretences)
to some unsavoury
people/players who were sucker enough to believe and pay for that dealers services to affect or, predict the outcome of a betting event (spin) on roulette.
These dealers who attempt this, be warned, when the goodies are not produced and the player eventually loses, you will run out of excuses and you may be
on the run for a very long time from those players. (then you will need the Ferrari to escape).


p.s. I will put up my Ferrari against anyone else who claims that he/she has a 'Dealer Signature'.

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post Aug 19 2008, 11:24 PM

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QUOTE(kaiserreich @ Aug 19 2008, 08:53 PM)
The easiest way to run away, is to tell the people, there's no 100% guarantee that it is always accurate. If you prepare say rm1k, and then lose it, I cannot be responsible, if you win Rm10k, you have to share with me, that's the terms, normally.

Why do you not see dealers drive Ferraris?
In foreign countries, I have no idea, in Genting, I have a slight idea. If for General Gaming Area, say you let the table lose, say.....100k to one person only, I'd certainly tell you, that you wouldn't have to deal Roulette for around one month. My friend paid this much, and he got this treatment. But let say you pay out 50k to one person, the next day you still dealing Roulette but you lose a lot of money, they are gonna send you to deal some game where it doesn't depend on you that the table win or lose.

The supervisors says that it is purely coincidental, unless there's anyone who works in the Casino Deployment before that's going to tell me it's coincidental, I'm gonna believe this coincidence.

You see, that's why they don't drive Ferraris. Once you become unprofitable to the company, they are gonna assign you somewhere else, where you become profitable. So the scammers try to grab as much as they can. And since the seniors gets trained in another game, the chances of them dealing Roulette becomes less and less. So there's no way RL dealers can drive a Ferrari, but they definitely can make a lot of money using this "Dealer signature" thing.

By the way, if you want to exploit this Dealer Signature thing, just act like you very rich, and bet a lot of money, a lot of money, a lot of money, attract the dealer's attention. Once the dealer tries to fish you, act like you bite, and make some quick buck while he spins to the places that you bet. You can run away and not share. But it will of course spark the dealer's ire, and you better not meet him the next time.
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haizz.... u say like this like that i still confuse, u only write in nice english but in theory its pusing here and there like snake doh.gif
and all u showing is nothing more than how you know how to cheat genting casino,
do u think this is usefull to ppl here? i think its no use to all ppl in lowyat.net.

haiz....i feel very empty reading all this ....
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post Aug 19 2008, 11:46 PM

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QUOTE(kaiserreich @ Aug 19 2008, 11:31 PM)
That was the issue regarding the "Dealer Signature" thing, not about how to bet or win money in casino since there are certain people in here that doesn't believe it.

You asked for some sort of guide to make predicting the numbers that's going to come out, and I typed out whatever I know already. You can try google "Dealer Signature" and most things they say about the Dealer Signature thing is about wheel speed and ball speed etc, which is whatever I typed before.

If you want other sorts of guide, I can't give you, because I don't know any, other than using Dealer Signature to try win some money. It's not that all the guides give 100% sure win method anyways.
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this one about wheel cheating system i read already liao, confirm no such things one,
1 whole night i read it at professional gambling forum site
http://www.blackjackforumonline.com/conten...ionshooting.htm or many many more

the kwai lor ppl designed roulette and the kwai lor also trying to cheat casino for thousand years
but the kwai lor also cannot beat, only a few blacklisted cheating scammers in the internet got sell system
for USD1,000 telling everyone he can predict where the ball going to land, he guranteed i can make USD20,000 per day
not just in genting but worldwide casino, i can take plane go every casino in the world, get free hotel, room, drinks, some more
can get beutiful girls, knn i think he bullshit only, hahaha... i ask him to go fly kite oledi...

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post Aug 21 2008, 08:50 AM

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cry.gif i also in the perfect loser list, because when start losing money then i simply finish it my the balance one
normally until pokai no money, then next time brin more money....
tsk....tskk..tskk... i read now i crying here cry.gif

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