Yeah I just remembered, so tie does not matter,
but the banker bet if winning 6 only pays half, which gives house edge on banker bet. In the original baccarat, banker bets are charged 5% commission but in no commission, the winning 6 paying half act as the commission.
The player bet pays off more overall but the player bet has slightly less chance of winning because of the way the cards are drawn and read..

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Added on August 15, 2009, 10:53 am

I saw 2 machines, their pay table don't look good though... I think it was either Jokers Wild or Jacks or Better, but seriously, their pay table are not good compared to what you normally get in Vegas and such....

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Added on August 15, 2009, 10:58 amAnd for the record, reading trends don't help.
Why would genting allow people to use something as simple as following a trend and help the players?
Casino's survive on randomness which average to a loss for players.

Don't give me use randomness to beat randomness bullshit xD

Random + Random = Still random = you still lose

So, my philosophy in genting is prepare to lose and enjoy the play =P, if you get money for the day, that's nice, if you don't and lose capital (hopefully not in the thousands), I hope you at least enjoy the several hours in there trying to slay the dragon 

Wonder why he doesn't show his face?
Maybe he lost kow-kow already and cannot show his face
or he got caught doing pakat with croupier 

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Added on August 22, 2009, 12:41 pmOoh I just read through his thread. This guy is rich. *bullshit rich*

I don't care what you bet or what system you put in, but when you put in any portion of money in baccarat, you are expected to lose 1.3ish percent of the money in the long run.

Basically with these systems, you are making the casino play for the jackpot against you. You are likely to win many times but the day when 13 losses straight come you will cry real bad.

Chance of 13 straight losses assuming 50% chance of losing (which is wrong, and depends on whether you bet banker or player, as there IS a difference from the way the cards are drawn and read) is

0.5^13 X 100% =0.01221%

still pretty bad.

Anyway, I dunno how he intends to progress his bets to make it Rm2300 on the 13th roll so that he can net back 100 each time the 'loss combo' breaks.
Hope he comes back to explain =P so I can utterly destroy him 

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Added on August 22, 2009, 12:51 pmAnd for the rest of you please don't listen to these people, they are all cocky and waving their ego around because they have not been jackpotted by genting.
Not to say they WILL get JPed by Genting eventually, they may escape it for the rest of their lives even and come out with several thousands net profit and that is good for them I'll say, but remember, if genting the dragon manage to drop the fireball in your exhaust port... You will probably not leave that place alive

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Added on August 22, 2009, 12:52 pmAnd Just curious Daniel, what were you doing that made you lose so much?