****************Biostar T-Power I45 Overclocking/Discussion/Review/Guide Thread*****************************


Bios
80015 - Initial Bios

** Example 600 fsb by Biostar Guide

http://www.biostar.com.tw/app/en-us/event/tpi45oc/index.htm

Review List - Forums/Websites etc

http://www.biostar.com.tw/app/en-us/event/...i45rp/index.htm

Hardware
E8500
Biostar Tpower I45
4x1gb Team Xtreem PC2-6400 CL3's
Silverstone Op1000
Western Digital Raptor X
Windows Vista Ultimate
Coolit Freezone Elite
Sapphire X1050/ Sapphire HD4870 Crossfire


Software
Everest Ultimate 4.5.1330
OCCT
Windows Vista Ultimate 64bit SP1
CPUZ 1.45
Memtest 3.5beta
T-Power 2 Utility



cstkl1
1 - 4.25ghz 500x8.5 1000mhz Cl4-4-4-9 tRD 8 - Stable
E8500/Team Xtreem PC2-6400 CL3 4x1gb
2 - 4.25ghz 500x8.5 1200mhz CL5-5-5-9 tRD 8 - Stable
E8500/Team Xtreem PC2-6400 CL3 4x1gb
3 - 4.27ghz 533x8.0 1066mhz CL5-5-5-9 tRD 10 -Stable
E8500/Team Xtreem PC2-6400 CL3 4x1gb
4 - 4.25ghz 566x7.5 1132mhz CL5-5-5-9 tRD 10 - Stable

rhlc7
1 - 4.27ghz 533x8.0 1066mhz CL5-5-5-15 tRD 9 - SP1m
e7200/Team Xtreem PC2-6400 Cl3 2x1gb
2 - 4.40ghz 550x8.0 1100mhz CL4-4-4-12 tRD 8 - SP1m
e7200/Team Xtreem PC2-6400 Cl3 2x1gb

coolice
1. 3.75ghz 625mhzx6 1250mhz CL5-5-5-15 tRD 10 SP8m
X3310/Crucial Anniversary PC2-5400 Cl3 2x1gb

coolice & dblooi
1. 5.8ghz 645mhzx9 1290mhz CL5-5-5-15 tRD 10 SP1m
X3310/Crucial Anniversary PC2-5400 Cl3 2x1gb


500x8 1000mhz CL4-4-4-9 2.09v




500x8 1200mhz CL5-5-5-9 2.14v

610fsb!!!



RATING

Pros
Excellent in overclocking
Ram Bandwidth is currently no.1 for p45's (My comparison with p5q Deluxe and Gigabyte EP45dq6)
Excellent Bios
Excellent Manual
Cheap

Cons
No other features on this board aka powersaving etc.
Sometimes Corrupts my HDD
Crossfire performance is unstable

4/5

since its a overclocking board

This board i recommend for any intel proc with single card. Dual gpu seems to be too much for this board


*5/5 rating it needs to be perfect on everything... so will asus maximus 2 formula take this rating... stay tune

Overclocking Aim

Stable
533x8 - Achieved


566x7.5 - Achieved


600x7

Hopefully be done soon.

This post has been edited by cstkl1: Jul 2 2008, 05:26 PM

Dude, Why your pictures show your rams being DDR3 when the Team Xtreem PC2-6400 CL3 4x1gb is DDR2? Some bug somewherE?
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This post has been edited by bernardryan: Jun 18 2008, 09:25 PM

its a bug for (x)45.. for cpuz.. its ddr2

I see i see.. Alright.

@bernard
nonid to quote all the pic back lol..if u wan put spoiler waiting more p45 mobo to be review

Your vcore is a little bit higher then desire for stability testing.

for some reason,sometimes i do use higher vcore than it required for benching also
i don see anything wrong with it,do u?

update on answers by fae for the two main concerns and also the third issue

also for the results

i can already post it but i am having issues on banwidth gains.. so dont want to mislead u guys to buying the board with any results ...
so now exploring mch clock skews..


This post has been edited by cstkl1: Jun 18 2008, 11:31 PM

New Biostar user reporting in

Biostar stike back!!
wao bro rlhc17, so fast u take action..

raymond actually this is the first board that i can certify loves d9gmh's...

no issue whatsover on ram part..

yo kev compare this and my mobo worth it or not changing?

dunno dude the p5q deluxe i had was a early demo unit

the new boards seems much better...

hard to say..

but the biostar easier to clock.. and very user friendly
and its not so picky about the rams as the p5q deluxe

up to 500fsb performance level.. biostar beats the asus moobo...

that is for sure..

heatsink quality.. the biostar is full copper all the way.. not plated etc like the asus..


This post has been edited by cstkl1: Jun 20 2008, 09:54 AM

hand itchy ma....

glad to hear that ,lucky i didn't sell of my Team yet


my 1st suicide run with E7200




This post has been edited by rlhc17: Jun 20 2008, 12:58 PM

ur bandwidth score is . wish i had money.

my p35-ds3p is probably dead after being tortured with too much V. keep restarting after mobo send for rma.

anyway, does this board has any serious issues? might snatch one next month.

i was shock to see the 1st post that this board use ddr3..will get this board myb about next month..hope the price will go down

@cstkl1

how is the vdroop on this mobo?

This post has been edited by tkh_1001: Jun 20 2008, 07:20 PM

depending on voltage

low voltages less than 1.2v droop around 0.008-0.010v
medium voltage 1.3-1.4 around 0.015-0.025
high voltage 1.4++ around 0.04-0.07v

all measure with vmm

but i would say its very good..


i hated load line it always had issue on idle
best way to test load line is actually occt.. many times it bsod/restart during the last four minutes when it when to monitoring mode in idle..

thats y i am a anti loadline person..kekeke

posting soon some 1200CL5 tRD8 5:6 stable bandwidth awesomeness..

** raymond - please use photobucket ... doesnt lag like imageshack for streamyx..

everytime to see ure post i have to switch to a vpn server..

This post has been edited by cstkl1: Jun 20 2008, 08:30 PM

Sorry for being a little off-topic, don't know where else to ask. Is OCCT reliable as a stability testing tool?

I don't know after OCing OCCT shows error after running for 14 minutes. I've done Prime95 for 7 hours and it does not has any errors. Then i ran OCCT again without changing any OC parameters.

And it claim stable this time (Auto-1hour). OCCT reliable?

this board just taken the fsb WR few hours ago
7 is sweet number

prime doesnt doest test the caches hard enough..

prime/orthos is only good for proc stability

occt is better for proc/nb/vtt and mem stability
also run memtest86... but becarefully with memtest and wdmt..
as it stress ure rams and heat up ..

dont advice any ballistix to be used this way

i always used p95 and occt for stability test.

and yes, memtest really heats up the ram quit badly.

will post 533x8 stable and 566x7.5

for this lowest is trd 10 pull to trd 9 for 1066 CL5...

need to use another GC.. as GC going haywire.. its a saphire x1050 that shares the mem.... just need to double confirm.. that its just the card issue with the high fsb

finally figured out this mobo
3 days to tame it.. not bad eh.... just shows how easy and well made the bios is

dfi x48 3 weeks
maximus from early bios till rampage took like 1 month
dfi UT p35.. 2 weeks.

This post has been edited by cstkl1: Jun 21 2008, 01:09 AM

19/6 bios
http://rapidshare.com/files/123938076/P45AA619.BSP.rar.html

any difference this bios??

no idea eh..who want to be white mice?

dude pm me the the forum please
want to read on that bios

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Added on June 21, 2008, 4:57 pmnew bios
newbie warning
no higher clocks
just better control on rams subtimings
me like...




This post has been edited by cstkl1: Jun 21 2008, 04:57 PM

wow who got the WR, coolio ?

this mobo bios is geng!!!
so simple and easy....
will start funding for this mobo...
so the cheapest that u guys got for this mobo is how much??
share pls...

this board looks promising.. esp for quad core..

i think the trend is the same..

last time = high fsb : 965, full features : 975..

this time = p45 vs x48...

SOURCE

Currently is 724Mhz for the highest FSB reached using the board. Really awesome.

Youngpro get the WR.He use homemade vmch pot,MCH@-160 C.Haven't seen this board around LYP,any idea on price? I am still waiting for Abit IP45 Pro

i kinda like this board..so nice oh
nice result TS

got forumer selling this BIOSTAR TPOWER for RM545..actually i;m taking this mobo too amazed,can do high FSB!wahaha 724Mhz sia

724FSB need nb pot and LN2 I think 640FSB is doable on all air

Even after reachin' 600FSB it will be fast enough for any system you're runnin' in.

***56k Warning ***

review was done with handpicked very rare and eoled D9GMH's
hence y i posted not just 2x1gb but clocking on all 4x1gb to show the boards and ram powah..
dont expect crappy rams and crappy ballistix to do this easily...

with all this high fsb ure going to need good rams..

delay noticed
600fsb and 566fsb coming up soon as soon as i solve the gpu issue.
i can post the stable occt but its fake cause actually the gpu is going haywire..

***56k Warning***

oh yeah new bios
newbie hands off warning
as this board for ram settings has no auto..
with the new bios u get extra settings.. which will make matters worse for u and ure rams..


This post has been edited by cstkl1: Jun 23 2008, 09:09 PM

so dfi x48 or this better?

hi bro........

how is the latest 0618 bios !

well without the sub timings i couldn't have gotten the 533fsb stable...
566/600fsb close to stable.. gpu issue again..

the other option the fsb fine tune doesnt apply.. tested it/retested it etc
so i think its meant for the 8800gt/8800gtx issue as it was stated..

the gpu issue...
dunno whether u get that or not..
i am running dual monitor on my awesome saphire X1050 ( Awesome DoTa performance... ) usually one monitor will go crazy...

oh yeah also
the newbios made me understand

the big difference of the p45's and other p35/x48/x38
have u noticed even when the latencies are higher/ higher tRD
the performance can come close to a lower tRD value for read/copy/write.... here is where the subtimings magic happens..

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Added on June 23, 2008, 9:27 pmclock to clock

DFI LT X48 on DDR2 is king of all DDR2 mobo's

none comes close..

Bios Difficulty on rating from 1 to 10.. i rate that LT mobo 10...
took me so long ...
so many hours
and sometimes i still not sure whether did i really master it...
but i think i did..

This post has been edited by cstkl1: Jun 23 2008, 09:30 PM

hmmm.. so dfi lt x48 is a better choice compared to this?... haha...

yes but take note again
i consider myself not bad... in clocking ram timings

and i said that mobo is hard..
i mean really hard

Have you done a good Super PI 1M time with DFI LP LP X48?That is what clock for clock in my definition.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH >>>>>>RLVFLLLLLLLLLLLLL

ignore list u go for life..

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Added on June 24, 2008, 12:24 amUpdate

Solved the 566 vga issue... tested running video for 8 hours...

This post has been edited by cstkl1: Jun 24 2008, 12:24 AM

my max direct boots from bios with E7200 :



This post has been edited by rlhc17: Jun 24 2008, 05:54 AM


Attached thumbnail(s)

wah... E7200 with 550 fsb..

I think you can do 11.5's PI with that setup with some tweak

No tweak & my windows ady been used more than 10 mobos
Lazy to reformat

No need to reformat.Boot in diagnostic boot mode and close explorer.exe during Super Pi run

will disable explorer.exe help SP1 benchy?
kindda interesting !

It give about .1's or so of boost,close everything on os other then svchost.exe will give a decent boost as well.One more thing is memset which can help by a margin if you know how to use

Biostar latest official bios P45AA620.BSP

i tink there is a bug wif catalyst 8.6 wif gecube hd3870..it seems like the driver could not detect the card...nice bios interface i can say

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Added on June 27, 2008, 7:39 pmproblem solved...remember to update the bios b4 using it...bios buggy

This post has been edited by seanlimys: Jun 27 2008, 07:39 PM

For today,every settings set from bios

lol..crazy fsb...

Wah tempting.. Thinking to get X48 but when see this board, thinking to change my mind already..

it's a good bargain imho,
selling for only 500++
it's packs all the essential features

if u want to do CF satisfaction buy X48,but if u want OC FSB satisfaction i suggest P45

from me and coolice, using TPower I45
post this first ,more results will come

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=382687

nice...

I wonder why my Vcore increased.I set the vcore to default.

Tpower I45 user reporting in since 2 weeks ago..haha

I wonder hoe u guys can get higher ram oC?

I have Corsair Dominator 8500...but when i set the FSb to 533 multi @ 8, DDR speed to 1066...Not stable at 30minutes orthos...I upped the volt, ram volt...Coz it seems failed when I run ram test...

follow my voltages..
dont forget to adjust ure gtl's

new bios released...

670x9,E3110 WR,and izzit first 6GHz in Malaysia?

if anyone dares to post up sales related info here, you will be banned.
thanks

lol...ok moddy...hhee

can someone post or link to one of those earlier bios versions? all biostar has up is the july 10 version and when i use that one i can't get any voltage changes to stick.

also can someone tell me what the mch gtl ref voltage does and what the cpu core 1 and 2 gtl ref voltages do?

erm..guess there is no stock vcore option unless u monitor the vcore..btw..all those mch gtl ref volt i left it to stock

i dont understand... i found an earlier bios dated 0620 on biostar's website and flashed it last night. i could make changes to the voltages and they would stick for everything but the CPU, it would stay at 1.18 v no matter what. if i use the 0710 bios on their site right now none of the voltage changes work. am i doing something wrong? have no problems changing voltages with the factory bios (may 30th date maybe?)

i'm trying to overclock an e8400 that i bought from a guy who swears it will go over 4ghz on air cooling but i can't even get it stable at 3.6 and i have run a gajillion memtest's and the ram seems to be handling the settings i have really well so i'm about positive it's either the mobo or the cpu. the board does show my 12v rail as 11.88 but it's wrong because i checked it with a voltmeter while it was playing crysis and it's putting out no less than 12.28. if it's reading getting seeing etc the voltages wrong couldn't that cause my overclocking problems?

post ur setting using the template
im still using 626 but some ppl are saying 710 better

there is nothing to post, it won't let me change the cpu voltage. no matter if i hard reset or cut the power off and on a dozen times, it does not change the voltage.

try using another proc see it change or not !

hello guys,new user here..
whats the latest bios right now?is it ver 080015?

nevermind - i am ashamed to admit what the problem was. it was an ID 10 T error. seems i thought i had a Tpower I45 but in reality I ordered the wrong thing and got a TP45 HP 5.x board. guess they must be pretty close for the bios to actually flash and boot the thing and probably lucky that not being able to change the voltage was the only problem i ran into. hell they actually look a lot alike but still that is an unbelievably stupid error on my part.

i could flash it using the flasher utility accessed from F12 but i wondered why it was every version i tried from the windows flasher reported incorrect rom id

any vdroop mod yet?..

it so hard to tweak ram for this board..

Does Xigmatek HDT1283 heatsink fit this board?

yes it is,cause im using it also

my pccooler hdt 1204 oso works on this board...but i hav to remove the mosfet cooler fan...

Guys, I just got this board and started overclocking my Q6600. I'm using the manual overclocking from the BIOS. Do I leave all settings to auto?

I'm attaching the screenshot from Tpower utility.

Can anyone confirm whether the nb and fsb voltage is ok since it is set to auto? Btw, what are the defaults?

My cpu currently running 3.2Ghz (400x8). Anyone currently running this speed?



This post has been edited by nas: Jul 25 2008, 09:50 PM

all leave it to auto except for ddr2 voltage and cpu voltage...disable the ddr2 enhance mode...den disable the cpu features except core multi processing...

can push further... mine running at 3.6G 400X9.

Increase abit of the Vcore, NB Voltage and FSB.

or try find our forumer kmarc O`clock guide..
i learn lot from there

Hi, new overclocker here. Could someone tell me the right setting to maximize the overclocking for this board?

what board is it?

i just got this mobo... after installing everything... tried to boot up... but its stuck at boot and doesnt show anything on screen... it shows 2 type of POST code... here they are... is it faulty mobo?.. help pls...

its either two things

ure gpu or rams

flash ure mobo to the latest bios with another gpu

nvm i exchanged for a new board and it works fine... it comes with 10/7/08 bios which is the latest so far... thanks for the advice anyway..

This post has been edited by IcEMoCHa: Aug 1 2008, 01:11 PM

this board can fit with noctua or not?

eh last week i able to dload bios(beta) from their website..
but now its not there ady..

This post has been edited by fesick: Aug 1 2008, 05:47 PM

maybe that bios not stable lor..

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Added on August 1, 2008, 6:15 pmi wonder why they dont add NB temperature monitoring..

This post has been edited by IcEMoCHa: Aug 1 2008, 06:15 PM