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TSmainFrame
post Jun 16 2008, 12:39 PM, updated 18y ago

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well, im seeking for advice on strats when going against certain setups in 2x2 arena..
team setup is me rogue (50/0/11) + priest (43/5/13) on bloodlust bg..
minus the losses to the full s3 teams (eventho thats not a good excuse coz with better play prolly could win) that play around our ratings (1700-1800), we're finding a few setups just hard to go against prolly coz of wrong strat i guess..well, maybe..lol
somehow, most strats sites i can find talks bout shs rogues only...so seeking some advice here if anyone has any tips..wanna break 1800 (always when nearing that wall we keep getting farmed by full s3 teams tho i believe wif better strat we could prolly mebe win) eventho s3 is nearly ending and get better prepared for s4...

nwy, a few that i can think off are..
- mage/rogue : normally its against shs rogue/icy mage..they cc one of us (normally my priest partner) n thats normally goodbye to me..normally i'll try going on the icy mage but being mut spec i'll just get kited a lot (mebe im doing something wrong here)..
- priest/hunter : normally its against dpriest/bm or mm hunter..normally i stick on hunters against most healer/hunter, but somehow against this setup it doesnt work well..will rogue sticking on priest a better option?
- rogue/rogue : very rare atm (but i foresee a lot will appear) both shs normally...sap one of us, back to back blind one of us, then sap again especially against undead where priests scream is useless..i think one of us will just get killed during that duration..
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post Jun 16 2008, 01:27 PM

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QUOTE(mainFrame @ Jun 16 2008, 12:39 PM)
well, im seeking for advice on strats when going against certain setups in 2x2 arena..
team setup is me rogue (50/0/11) + priest (43/5/13) on bloodlust bg..
minus the losses to the full s3 teams (eventho thats not a good excuse coz with better play prolly could win) that play around our ratings (1700-1800), we're finding a few setups just hard to go against prolly coz of wrong strat i guess..well, maybe..lol
somehow, most strats sites i can find talks bout shs rogues only...so seeking some advice here if anyone has any tips..wanna break 1800 (always when nearing that wall we keep getting farmed by full s3 teams tho i believe wif better strat we could prolly mebe win) eventho s3 is nearly ending and get better prepared for s4...

nwy, a few that i can think off are..
- mage/rogue : normally its against shs rogue/icy mage..they cc one of us (normally my priest partner) n thats normally goodbye to me..normally i'll try going on the icy mage but being mut spec i'll just get kited a lot (mebe im doing something wrong here)..
- priest/hunter : normally its against dpriest/bm or mm hunter..normally i stick on hunters against most healer/hunter, but somehow against this setup it doesnt work well..will rogue sticking on priest a better option?
- rogue/rogue : very rare atm (but i foresee a lot will appear) both shs normally...sap one of us, back to back blind one of us, then sap again especially against undead where priests scream is useless..i think one of us will just get killed during that duration..
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1st thing you need to do is -

replace your priest with a druid, that itself is worth 100+ rating
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post Jun 16 2008, 01:30 PM

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QUOTE(lowzi @ Jun 16 2008, 01:27 PM)
1st thing you need to do is -

replace your priest with a druid, that itself is worth 100+ rating
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quoted for the truth
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post Jun 16 2008, 01:43 PM

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Druid rogue is good meh?

edit:
Oh yea btw, just wondering how you find mutilate. Is it better than ShS?

This post has been edited by Aggroboy: Jun 16 2008, 01:46 PM
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QUOTE(Aggroboy @ Jun 16 2008, 01:43 PM)
Druid rogue is good meh?

edit:
Oh yea btw, just wondering how you find mutilate. Is it better than ShS?
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Everyone knows Rogues are OP....
and everyone knows resto druids WON'T DIE !!!

what more u want?
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post Jun 16 2008, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(lowzi @ Jun 16 2008, 01:27 PM)
1st thing you need to do is -

replace your priest with a druid, that itself is worth 100+ rating
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this guy here speaks the holy gospel.


Added on June 16, 2008, 1:55 pm
QUOTE(Aggroboy @ Jun 16 2008, 01:43 PM)
Druid rogue is good meh?

edit:
Oh yea btw, just wondering how you find mutilate. Is it better than ShS?
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doesnt matter if rogue druid is good or bad.

the keyword here is druid, and 2v2.

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Jun 16 2008, 01:55 PM
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post Jun 16 2008, 02:01 PM

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Druid where got so easy mode sad.gif

I never broke 2k before
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post Jun 16 2008, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(mainFrame @ Jun 16 2008, 12:39 PM)
well, im seeking for advice on strats when going against certain setups in 2x2 arena..
team setup is me rogue (50/0/11) + priest (43/5/13) on bloodlust bg..
minus the losses to the full s3 teams (eventho thats not a good excuse coz with better play prolly could win) that play around our ratings (1700-1800), we're finding a few setups just hard to go against prolly coz of wrong strat i guess..well, maybe..lol
somehow, most strats sites i can find talks bout shs rogues only...so seeking some advice here if anyone has any tips..wanna break 1800 (always when nearing that wall we keep getting farmed by full s3 teams tho i believe wif better strat we could prolly mebe win) eventho s3 is nearly ending and get better prepared for s4...

nwy, a few that i can think off are..
- mage/rogue : normally its against shs rogue/icy mage..they cc one of us (normally my priest partner) n thats normally goodbye to me..normally i'll try going on the icy mage but being mut spec i'll just get kited a lot (mebe im doing something wrong here)..
- priest/hunter : normally its against dpriest/bm or mm hunter..normally i stick on hunters against most healer/hunter, but somehow against this setup it doesnt work well..will rogue sticking on priest a better option?
- rogue/rogue : very rare atm (but i foresee a lot will appear) both shs normally...sap one of us, back to back blind one of us, then sap again especially against undead where priests scream is useless..i think one of us will just get killed during that duration..
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now in all seriousness.

spec to lol step. mutilate rogues are ONLY viable in maybe 5v5 and 3v3 (unless you run rogue rogue and you can pull off really good mutilate combos, watch the 2400+ rating rogue rogue dual mutilate team videos for reference), and even then lolstep > it. take it from the guy thats been daggers since level 1 but have betrayed the spec and is now lolstep as well.

2ndly, ur priest = full disc + holy cookie cutter. drop shadow talents. waste of points.

1) mage rogue = roll over and die. its a hard counter to priest + rogue. cuz all they do is cc priest. and ur done. your priest trinket sheep, blind full. the ONLY out is engineering boots and/or SWD sheeps/blinds. and with latency? dont count on it.

no you dont go to mage, as ur priest is too busy to keep you free. go rogue, keep him the hell off your priest as much as you can. because as soon as wound stacks up, ur priest is guaranteed death.

2) also roll over and die. ur priest have NO outs on viper sting. if you cant kill their hunter or priest when ur priest is oom'ed, you lost. the only way? kill them before your priest mana runs out. and with lolfrost traps, ur not gonna get that done. so yeap, lolstep + prep AT LEAST gives you that CHANCE. watch cherez's video for reference (world's best hunter)
and if you stick on priest, hunter will:
- cc you better with scatter into trap
- unload his dps on ur priest, or you.
- ok dual rogues you got a chance. but its highly dependant on how ur priest can play it out. preferably, you WANT a dwarf priest, and rogue urself being human then its almost a free win. for reference, observe ely's survival skills against top tier rogues on the MLG competition. (DGFG world's best rmp team's priest)


Added on June 16, 2008, 2:03 pm
QUOTE(Aggroboy @ Jun 16 2008, 02:01 PM)
Druid where got so easy mode sad.gif

I never broke 2k before
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then thats your problem, not the class. MLG's main healers are...

as you guessed it: druids.

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Jun 16 2008, 02:03 PM
TSmainFrame
post Jun 16 2008, 02:04 PM

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hur hur....druids are tough to kill yea..the good ones that is..
aint easy finding one tho...wish got those kinda druids in my guild to choose from.. sweat.gif


Added on June 16, 2008, 2:19 pm
QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jun 16 2008, 02:02 PM)
now in all seriousness.

spec to lol step. mutilate rogues are ONLY viable in maybe 5v5 and 3v3 (unless you run rogue rogue and you can pull off really good mutilate combos, watch the 2400+ rating rogue rogue dual mutilate team videos for reference), and even then lolstep > it. take it from the guy thats been daggers since level 1 but have betrayed the spec and is now lolstep as well.

2ndly, ur priest = full disc + holy cookie cutter. drop shadow talents. waste of points.

1) mage rogue = roll over and die. its a hard counter to priest + rogue. cuz all they do is cc priest. and ur done. your priest trinket sheep, blind full. the ONLY out is engineering boots and/or SWD sheeps/blinds. and with latency? dont count on it.

no you dont go to mage, as ur priest is too busy to keep you free. go rogue, keep him the hell off your priest as much as you can. because as soon as wound stacks up, ur priest is guaranteed death.

2) also roll over and die. ur priest have NO outs on viper sting. if you cant kill their hunter or priest when ur priest is oom'ed, you lost. the only way? kill them before your priest mana runs out. and with lolfrost traps, ur not gonna get that done. so yeap, lolstep + prep AT LEAST gives you that CHANCE. watch cherez's video for reference (world's best hunter)
and if you stick on priest, hunter will:
- cc you better with scatter into trap
- unload his dps on ur priest, or you.
- ok dual rogues you got a chance. but its highly dependant on how ur priest can play it out. preferably, you WANT a dwarf priest, and rogue urself being human then its almost a free win. for reference, observe ely's survival skills against top tier rogues on the MLG competition. (DGFG world's best rmp team's priest)
thanks for those few tips..will give it a go n watch those few vids u mentioned.. smile.gif
i dont wanna go shs tho..well, not atm..somehow im in love with mut spec..hehe..

This post has been edited by mainFrame: Jun 16 2008, 02:19 PM
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post Jun 16 2008, 02:20 PM

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My guild's druid rogue got to 2011 in 3 weeks. And they only play 1-2 time a week coz we are a pve guild, and they have raid duty.

 

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