Yesterday HR summon me and ask me to sign:

- resignation letter dated end of last month
- resignation accepted letter from MD dated end of last month
- new offer letter with same pay and title, but annual leaves cut into half, starting dates changed to this month(1st June), and effectively discredited my stay in this company for more then 6 month.

I was told that this is just for documentation sake because I am changing supervisor(new manager came in) and its part of the ISO thingy. And then the manager told me that probation period cannot be more then 6 month.

Can anyone tell me or comment on this situation?

I am a little stunned when they asking me to sign these things, and I am brain storming about the real purpose of doing so;
- r they trying to get rid of me?
- do they think that i am an idiot?
- this is just some ISO practice(bullshit)

I am drilling the offer letters words by words now.

Note: Concluded issue, just added some follow ups.

This post has been edited by rexis: May 14 2009, 08:51 AM

Can u explain it in more details?

Doc1: resignation letter which i never prepare.
Doc2 : resignation accepted by MD letter and signed by MD.
Doc3&4 : offer letter with tweaked starting date, less annual leaves, and different supervisor.

The reason given by management is that it is a "standard" procedure and for documentation purpose.

That:
- probation period cannot last longer then 6 months according to labor law.

I called labor dept and they say there is no such thing coz they do not categorize employee in permenant or under probation or temporary, a staff is a staff regardless what status they carrying.

No i am not gonna sign anything. Because:

- If i sign on the resignation letter part only, which I really feel like it. I will lose all of this month salary, I still got two month worth of mileage claim there...
- If i sign all the documents, means that I am just another freshie in the company, hence all my previous efforts are discredited and denied, the company has a policy of topping up the difference of the salary upon confirmation (you work 2 month, confirm u at 3rd month and add u 100 salary, you will receive 2month x 100 = RM200)

And if I don't sign,
- they might have a contingency plan, like sack me.
- I have no idea what they going to do!

The big boss prepare the documents and then go for three weeks holiday unbelievable, such a MD of MNC will do so many small small act and strategy just to get rid a person he don't like.

This post has been edited by rexis: Jun 17 2008, 09:46 AM

I have long gone from that company but I owe everyone some conclusion and explanation. Here it is.

I have concluded that I will never sign any resignation letter, and in fact I didnt sign any resignation letter, I just sign the new offer letter, and started another round of probation, and hence, I am treated as a freshie and put below a new manager, its like starting a new job.

The story behind this is that the MD actually do not want me anymore, and he wants his new IT Manager(my title was IT Asst Manager) to take over my job completely(infrastructure). Maybe since that IT Manager is more experience into software part, he needs me for hardware and network support, so he requested to the MD for me to stay.

So this is what I get, for "documentation" purpose, a company cannot extent one's probation forever, after one extended probation, the company has to decide whether to sack me or to confirm me. So their choice is, "I resigned then they offer me another new job and I accepted the offer", below is the detailed explaination:

- Employee left the company: either they sack me or I resigned, in this case, they prepared the resignation letter and suggesting me to sign on it and hence resign from them company, so the company do not need to issue any termination letter.
- Employee sign a new offer with the company: a brand new offer letter with new probation period is being signed.

Conclusion, it is mainly a legal practice for the HR to protect the company.

Stormy21, that, I am not sure, maybe you can say that they trying to get rid of me indirectly, as for sure the MD do not want me anymore, but the newly hired IT manager wanted me, so I get a neither probation extension nor confirmation, but a new offer.

True, but the mentioned company here is MNC originated from Belgium.

eksk86 is a careful reader, pay attention to him

It is meaningless to reveal that company, its being bought over by another firm anyway and most of the management changed. Most of the IT personel including the new IT Manager and the whole singapore team jumped.

Thats the beauty part of probation. Company and yourself can sack each other anytime.

Of course they needed me, I am still useful.

Btw then, people only learn to appreciate things when they seen worse.

I signed the offer letter because HR threaten me that there will be no salary by end of month because I hv no businesses there.

Thanks JC for the invaluable opinions.

I was not reassigned with another duty, but just retain my duty and supervised by a new boss.

As I mentioned, I moved on, being unhappy, also for the fact that the company sold and nearly the entire IT team dispensed. So, as you mentioned, "Every single individual is dispensable", I couldn't agree more, and that work in both way, every employer is dispensable too.

Sigh~

Thanks for the juicing up, I need it. I am with another employer for a while and again, they do not want to confirm me, details here, I am being offered with monthly contract job. That is, however, off topic.

But that is also why I know this topic case is some labour law documentation gimmicks.

sweetie, maybe you are right. Bosses like those who wanted to throw his laptop out of the window just because the wifi signal is weak, or those who thinks that his PDA is more important then the main server... or I have too much to complain about. I had a conclusion thou, it doesn't really matter how good or bad you perform, as long as you keep your superior happy, you are good.

Technical things like remote desktop won't help you work more efficient, the most efficient way is to walk all the way to the opposite block, walk pass as many times as possible with a lot of papers and some keyboards in your hand in front of your users, stare at the server while it restart for 20 minutes, just to show that you are working very very hard to fullfil their request.