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saingau
post Jun 16 2008, 04:27 PM

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QUOTE(King83 @ Jun 16 2008, 02:51 PM)
oh yeah, didn't notice ally.
i am in the process of looking for guild too...
tired of my guild can't progress cos dun have 25 raiders.
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How bout staying back and helping the guild build up so it can do 25mans? (Just a constructive feedback)

saingau
post Jun 17 2008, 04:53 AM

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QUOTE(King83 @ Jun 16 2008, 04:36 PM)
cos my guild is another selfish bus3rd won't take me to za....
they only bring "top team"...... and we're not doing kara for badges anymore too atm...
really stalling.... i'mma jump ship at the slightest chance.

TY for gearing me up but g2g  tongue.gif
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Maybe you should ask them why arent they bringing you in for ZA? There has to be valid points/reasons for that right?

saingau
post Jun 17 2008, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jun 17 2008, 08:14 AM)
you hinting something? lol
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QUOTE(myremi @ Jun 17 2008, 08:59 AM)
The both you aren't that subtle. >.<
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No seriously, I'm not being sarcastic, neither am I being mean. Lemme explain...

QUOTE(saingau @ Jun 17 2008, 04:53 AM)
Maybe you should ask them why arent they bringing you in for ZA? There has to be valid points/reasons for that right?
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Kings,
Why I ask that Q is basically, its always a 2sided point of view (POV)- one from your perspective as a raider and the other perspective of the raid leader. Usually, a lot of issues/drama happen because both POVs are not aligned.

By me asking you that question above is for you to think about the other POV (from the raid leader) and if need be, facilitate open discussions with the him/her. Find out the reasons you are not being included in the raids - is it a skill issue? gear issue? attitude issue?. Whichever the reason is, work hard on the shortcomings that the raid leader has told you about and then come back and show them that you've fixed them. That way, he/she does not have a reason to not include you in raids.
saingau
post Jun 18 2008, 03:43 PM

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Actually, i'm not angry about not being in za lah....
za has very limited upgrades for me...
only upgrades i can get are from bear, zuljin and chest.
And these items aren't even really upgrades, they are just alternative pieces
to swap and use on different situations. My guild only managed to kill 3 animal bosses too btw.

You're decked out in t4 level gear. The gear in ZA is t5 level gear - I dont understand your rationale that its limited upgrades. Also, you might need to relook into your research cause these are the good stuffs for tanks from ZA.

1st boss = boots
2nd boss = tps sword (its better than the malchezeen u using)
3rd boss = shield
4th boss = nothing I guess
5th boss = helm
6th boss = trinklet, tanking sword/mace/axe (cant rmbr which weapon type it is)

Chest 1 = shoulders
Chest 3 = rings

Now that alone is a shitload of upgrades bro!!! tongue.gif

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Gruul's and mag don't provide me any real upgrades too aside from T4 pieces.

Gruul also has the shield.

Anyways, the rationale for me asking you to discuss with raid leader is so you can understand the point of view of the other party (raid leader). If you take time to ask and understand the reasons behind it, it will actually help you in the long run. Dont forget, even if you jump ship, you will face the same prob in the other guild - so what do you do? Jump again?


 

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