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TSMaugrimX
post Jun 15 2008, 05:29 PM, updated 18y ago

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Hi guys. Need some advice here, as I really don't know what I'm doing.

I want to upgrade my HU and speakers, so I went to Brother's yesterday. Managed to select the HU - Kenwood KDC-MP5039U (recommended by the dealer there).

Just want to know whether this is a good HU? I'm looking for something medium range due to budget constraints. The HU sells for around RM500.

This leaves me with RM500 to upgrade my back and front speakers. I have problems selecting the suitable speakers - that's where I hope you guys could help me out.

I'm not sure of the size of the speakers. I drive a Kelisa.

Hope to get some help from you guys on setting up my ICE. Would appreciate all comments regarding the HU and speakers (and also the wiring for speakers, whether it's necessary to change etc etc).

Trying to work within the budget of RM1,000.

Thanks very much smile.gif
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post Jun 15 2008, 06:14 PM

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1 branded entry level Head Unit, 1no. 4 channel amp, front component speaker with passive X-Over & 10" sub box cost should not be more than $1,200; your Kelisa should have some decent ICE sound which will keep you happy.
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post Jun 15 2008, 06:47 PM

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Hi, thanks for the reply MobyDick.

By entry level, do you mean I should get something cheaper?

I believe the HU I'm targetting is medium range. Should I cut down on the cost of the HU to install better quality speakers / amps?

By the way, any suggestions (models etc.) for the amp and speakers? Would like to do some research smile.gif
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post Jun 15 2008, 08:40 PM

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IMO, can visit this page, he got lotsa models of all price and range.
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/403021

HU can either keep or choose from there. 500
Front component speakers got a lot of choices. For ur budget i think can go for Boschmann. 200
Amp JBL 60.4 650
sub JBL cs10 250
1600 total and still can talk to him to nego that price. Should be a lot lower. Good Luck.


Added on June 15, 2008, 8:51 pmMaybe here too...
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/701902

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post Jun 15 2008, 09:05 PM

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Hey. Thanks for the link to howie's shop. I have contacted him to see what are my options smile.gif

Any other comments from other ICE enthusiasts?
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post Jun 15 2008, 09:06 PM

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yes...its the best option...
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post Jun 15 2008, 09:19 PM

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for 1k budget, i will consider going ampless.

Pioneer HU : 300
Speakers (Front): 300
Rear Speakers: 200
Wiring + Workmanship: 200

1k well spent
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post Jun 15 2008, 09:27 PM

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its just not an activ setup lor...

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post Jun 15 2008, 11:54 PM

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What do you mean by active setup?

By the way, bafukie, is it possible to get Pioneer HU with USB for RM300?

So cheap?
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post Jun 16 2008, 02:37 AM

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yea, he does have some cheap stuffs. Go ahead and talk to him, he knows wat to recommend u. Tell him ur budget and needs.
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post Jun 16 2008, 06:54 AM

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QUOTE(dirsly @ Jun 15 2008, 09:27 PM)
its just not an activ setup lor...
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ALo..... look at the thread la...1k u can play active .... u recommend me.. i also wanna try. And why does it have to be an active setup anyway? Passive sounds bad gah? hmm.gif

QUOTE(MaugrimX @ Jun 15 2008, 11:54 PM)
What do you mean by active setup?

By the way, bafukie, is it possible to get Pioneer HU with USB for RM300?

So cheap?
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Dunno... since u never say wat kind of HU features u want in ur first thread, i juz put according to ur budget. But rm300 can get u a pioneer HU.
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post Jun 16 2008, 08:20 AM

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activ setup ...all ur speakers connect to amp...
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post Jun 16 2008, 08:46 AM

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With your tight budget it's better you go to a 'ICE-Installer' rather than buying the hardware yourself & installing it somewhere else, matching it all to give you the optimum sound is critical here, if not hardware seller will say installer do not know how to setup & installer will say your hardware do not match, that's why your sound 'F*#*-up' story after all the $$ spend. You also need to ask yourself 1 last question, is this gonna be quite a permanent set or will there be further upgrades.
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post Jun 16 2008, 10:12 AM

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Sorry. Did not realise that I did not specify what kind of HU I wanted.

I'm looking for something which has MP3 and also Frontal USB.

This is not really a permanent set up. My RM1k budget is for HU, front and back speakers only. I might add an amp when the money becomes available in future (depending on whether I am satisfied with the sound without an amp).

Could someone please explain to me, coz the dealer at Brother's was saying something about the HU coming with 2 pre-outs. What's that? What kind of set up should I have if I plan to put an Amp in future? I do not plan to put sub. Not really hardcore when it comes to bass.

Thanks smile.gif
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post Jun 16 2008, 01:34 PM

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3050ub..2 preouts means u need 2 rca to connect to ur 2 amp..no need eq or xover..
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post Jun 16 2008, 05:29 PM

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Wah difficult to understand.

Hahaha...

So 2 pre-outs would be enough for me if I intend to install an amp in future?
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post Jun 16 2008, 07:02 PM

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yes, it is juz how many outputs u have. 1 output for front, 1 for sub / rear. Settle lo.
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post Jun 16 2008, 07:24 PM

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Ahh, alright.

Thanks so much for the help guys.

Will try to drive to howie's this weekend to install. Very excited.

How long does installation take? 2-3 days?
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post Jun 16 2008, 08:42 PM

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i think 1 day if howie's schedule is not full. smile.gif Fastest is half a day, bring there morning collect at evening. Wait, if HU & speakers should be within 2 hours as there's no extensive wiring needed.
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post Jun 17 2008, 03:27 PM

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howie's setup shudnt take long time since your are entry level ICE setup with minimal tuning required.

but my experience of installing (not howie) took around 2hrs for component set + amp to my stock HU which is ok coz satria neo door panel and HU is a hassle to disassemble.
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post Jun 17 2008, 07:32 PM

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Ok guys...

Things are finally coming to a conclusion...

I've decided on my setup (as below)...

Please feel free to let me know whether I've made the right choice...

Head Unit : Kenwood KDC-5039U
Front Component Speakers : KFC-507P
Rear Speakers : KFC-6990IE

Amp will be future project. Haha...no money...

The total cost for the above should be about RM1k (including installation)...

Am I making the right choice?

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post Jun 17 2008, 09:55 PM

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i would say save the rears
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post Jun 17 2008, 10:41 PM

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suggest me a component, rm550 max

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post Jun 17 2008, 11:13 PM

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JBL, sound stream, rockford, pegasus components and much more... or 2nd hand other higher end comp sets.
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post Jun 17 2008, 11:45 PM

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QUOTE(athlonxp @ Jun 17 2008, 10:41 PM)
suggest me a component, rm550 max

come on  brows.gif
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It'd be nice if you showed some manners and asked politely before you hijacked someone's thread...

But oh well...
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post Jun 18 2008, 12:14 AM

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QUOTE(MaugrimX @ Jun 17 2008, 11:45 PM)
It'd be nice if you showed some manners and asked politely before you hijacked someone's thread...

But oh well...
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Everybody is sharing information & I don't see any harm done. nod.gif

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post Jun 18 2008, 12:48 PM

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Just that the attention is drawn to his question...and my question would receive less help...

And I would be / am confused about whether people are replying to my post or his...

But it's alright...smile.gif
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post Jun 18 2008, 05:28 PM

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at least i was replying to ur post MaugrimX. smile.gif
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post Jun 18 2008, 05:42 PM

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Haha thanks man.

I asked for a quotation from howie, but he says the speakers are fake, and that he doesn't sell them...

But the Kenwood website has them rclxub.gif
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post Jun 18 2008, 05:47 PM

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They can make exactly the same one.

Looks the same, box same, only material used different.

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post Jun 18 2008, 06:35 PM

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Oh I see.

So the reason howie might not be selling them is because there's a high chance that those in the market are fake? shocking.gif
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post Jun 18 2008, 06:45 PM

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my advice: go to howie... ask him to recommend 1k budget setup. Kao tim... u can trust the fella.. i dealt with him lots of time b4
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post Jun 18 2008, 07:07 PM

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Ya, planning to go see him this weekend...

Although the shop a bit far, haha...

By the way, does Brothers sell fake speakers and HUs??

They are such a big shop, yet they would resort to selling fake items? The reason why I had originally wanted the above items (all of which are Kenwood), is because the seller there recommended to me. But they could be fake items? I doubt they would do something like that to ruin their reputation right???
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post Jun 18 2008, 11:58 PM

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well... demand for cheaper ones from the masses and frankly, i seldom see real ICE players will go to kedai abang.

big shop doesnt mean they cant sell replicas. but to be frank, can you tell the differences between the original and the replica if you dont have that question in your mind?
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post Jun 19 2008, 01:18 PM

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Well, I wouldn't say that I'm a real ICE player. This is the first time I'm installing ICE. So I went to Brothers to have a look, coz I thought it was big / well known.

I guess the only way I would be able to tell original and fake is when it's installed...and I get to hear the sound...

But then, if fake and ori have same sound, then I don't know... rclxub.gif
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which is why you want recommendation and post a topic here smile.gif
try to be aware of the thing u want to buy. if you want a piece of mind, go for authorized dealers only. if that dealer also sell to you replicas, at least you have the proof. smile.gif
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post Jun 19 2008, 11:14 PM

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QUOTE(MaugrimX @ Jun 19 2008, 09:18 AM)
Well, I wouldn't say that I'm a real ICE player. This is the first time I'm installing ICE. So I went to Brothers to have a look, coz I thought it was big / well known.

I guess the only way I would be able to tell original and fake is when it's installed...and I get to hear the sound...

But then, if fake and ori have same sound, then I don't know... rclxub.gif
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i think fake will never have the same sound as the ori... if they have the same sound why buy ori?? smile.gif
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post Jun 22 2008, 10:25 AM

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Hey guys...sorry couldn't respond. Very busy with work lately.

Anyone know if the Alpine 9884e head unit is good? Roughly how much is the market price nowadays?

Thanks smile.gif
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post Jun 23 2008, 05:55 AM

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the build up quality matters...mebe its gud to tell whn everythings on n roll out..

 

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