Isn't the EJ forum post enough?

Hmm...would it be that much of a difference though? Some of the malaysian numbers on WWS doesn't differ much from a top raiding guild located in US/Oz. So, you could still possibly use those numbers as the variance may only be 100-200 DPS. Then again, also depends on the amount of damage done during the encounter.

Well, there are also other factors i.e. your party composition as well as the consumables you're using and even a LW in your group for haste.

Doh, Quaz. You are not kind to the masses.

Mikehuan, you probably just participated in the wordfest with the resident e-peener sadly.

He may not be kings83 material but I agree with Kurei, don't trivialise PVE.

One day, I should arrange a safe form for confrontational discussions. Let it all out in either a water fight, lazer tag or something like that.

We're getting too seriouz here.

Oftentimes, the way to respond to oxymoron confrontational discussions is for the OP to sometimes give way sadly. But giving way is not in agreeing with the rebuttal but to steer the conversation back without having to resort to insults, be it direct or sarcastic. Comments like "pretty trivial" can spark flame threads for ages.

Don't resort to playing Quaz's game though. And yeah, I nag him too, just like I nag everyone on this forum.

On the flipside, I showed the BT gear requirement thread to my Raid Leader and the first thing he said was "How come all posters are so angry and they lose focus of the thread? They didn't answer it." When I mention that this is typical Malaysian response, he goes "ouch".

Sorry, giving thread back to mikehuan to look for Enh shammies.

Thought that since teron is the DPS gauge, it's full DPS gear and no shadow prot gear at all?

Hmm...I wonder if lamerflamerz is a 2nd account for someone. Only just joined today and already flaming. Ouch.

O.O Pinkbleu also just join around lunchtime.

What if I said all 3 of you are right but at the end of the day, orangbulu's post is the most solid?

oh well.

There goes another day in WoW LYN forums.

Bleargh, so much QQ and no one is helping out Terrorhoof. Kesian dia lah!

Why do ppl have so much energy to QQ? Should channel it into other useful activities like helping Remi read through 3 documents of 200-800 pages it and compress it into a single page report. LOL!