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post Feb 11 2009, 09:48 PM

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QUOTE(Phoeni_142 @ Feb 11 2009, 09:32 PM)
I disagree with u on almost all fronts here.  Let me be frank to you: 

1.  BNM does not have standard "credit policies" for all banks.  By the way, credit policies and liquidity/ capital management are two different things here.  That's what Basel 2 is for - to regularize and harmonize the way banks manage capital - i suggest u read up on it.  In fact, Basel 2 is the approach which will attempt to standardize bank's lending - not BNM. 

2.  M'sia has the best credit system in the world? Wow - i've been in banking for some time....first time i've heard of this statement.  My friend, buying credit TECHNOLOGY and programs are different from Credit POLICIES / PROGRAMS.  Policies are the DNA of lending.  In that sense, M'sia is still light years behind time.  It is only in recent years, that local banks have been introducing credit scores.  Behavioural scoring is no where close to even becoming an industry standard.  For the record - CCRIS is so badly updated and backword compared to FICO Scores.  Why do u think banks have TONS of other credit checks ON TOP of CCRIS checking?  Please do your research on credit first.

3.  Yes - I agree with u that there are pro's and con's to everything.  The US screwed up because of over-relaxation of Credit policies, depsite their superior policies, scoring and technology.  My statement earlier was with rgds to HEDGING of long term funds to offer 30 year fixed rates and beyond.  Do not confuse yourself with the subprime boo boo here.  They are two separate issues.
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hahah .. okkk today i learnt something new ... hear say should not be published as info0rmation ... mind giving more insight into hedging of long term funds to offer 30 year fixed rates and beyond?

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QUOTE(Phoeni_142 @ Feb 11 2009, 09:54 PM)
Sure....

Before I get into that.....let me answer your question by asking u a question.

why do u think AIA / ING can give fixed rate loans for 30 years? What's holding our local banks back? An understanding here would point us in the right direction.
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hmmm ... just guessing here .... because they have hedged their interest rate risks at 6% by buying short on the international money market??


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post Feb 14 2009, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(gary123 @ Feb 14 2009, 02:54 PM)
Hi there.

Wanted to ask something in regards of damansara heights, thought you might be familiar with the place.

What is the current land value there? I heard that the most expensive house that was sold was 8m which is not far off from other prime areas such as TTDI hills, Valencia  etc. can you verify this information?

Secondly, as the exclusivity of the place is being jeopardised with the amount of developments going on there, and with the up and coming prime areas , do you foresee there will be a depreciation of assets in the place ?

Thanks in advance !

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Added on February 14, 2009, 4:47 pmhey guys i have added a map there with coded circles ... will do a short review of each area ... base on my knowledge .. it is just for reference and not to be nit picked .. will be mentioning median prices and not individual property pr project .. prices ... i know there maybe parts that are not precise ... and if you know better please kindly post your comment ....

basic rules in a property recession ....

DON'T EXPECT A QUICK BUCK! AVOID SPECULATION, TAKE YOUR TIME AND ALWAYS HAGGLE AND BE PREPARED TO WALK AWAY FROM A DEAL!! ALSO LOOK AT FUNDAMENTALS AND NOT WHAT THE NEIGHBOR SOLD HIS HOUSE PRICE AT!

OH YA .. RESIDUAL AND POSITIVE INCOME IS A MUST!

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post Feb 16 2009, 12:53 PM

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hmmm?? click on the image also cannot get enlarged image?
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hi guys sorry .. busy week ... should be able to update this weekend ... pai, pheoni_142, or any other bros with views on the few unanswered posts mind to share your views on the last few questions from other posters here?
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post Feb 19 2009, 09:04 AM

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QUOTE(jasonhanjk @ Feb 18 2009, 10:49 PM)
A month later, your family went out to a holiday.
Your tenants call, they decide to move out today as the toilet fix by your dad still has problem.
Sometimes it will flush, sometimes not.
As the lease agreement expired last week, they wanted their deposit back.

You are busy working and required to work this weekend, the project you are handling requires your full attention.
Once the project is successful, your boss promise promotion and pay raise.

Now your tenant would dismantle the AC if they don't see their money today.
They don't accept cheque as you could not get your toilet fix.
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hahahah u sound like u have had lotsa .,.. toilet blunders ..... capix not that scary lar .. just keep all ur handy man's number on hand and always find them go yam char no problem laiw la
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post Feb 19 2009, 02:36 PM

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QUOTE(jasonhanjk @ Feb 19 2009, 10:04 AM)
Haha, it's a regular landlord joke I always make.
The hardest part for real estate investor is management.
Manage well, the money follows. Ultimately I want to enjoy life and go out to look for more deals.

Commonly a management company is needed to take care of the property.
Collect the rent, selection of tenant, mow the lawn, etc.
The problem is, there are good and bad ones.
To know the good and bad requires first hand experience.
Without management experience, I doubt that will work for the investor in the long run.
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i know what u mean ... last time i rented my apartment in kuching ... later found out fella was a ganster ... was keeping contraband in my house ... righ the HORRORR?!!!! thank god he was nice ... fella moved his stuff out .. so i let him stay on
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HAHHAHAHAHA I'VE FINANLLYY SETTLED MYYY MORTGAGEEE!~!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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QUOTE(jasonhanjk @ Mar 3 2009, 05:19 PM)
Good! Now you can re-finance. biggrin.gif
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you and pheni_147 devils la ...


Added on March 3, 2009, 9:39 pm
QUOTE(SuMo^ @ Mar 3 2009, 04:57 PM)
You mean you paid your mortgage off? So fast?
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ya ... 5 years ... but cheapo one la .. 150k only ... now one more mortgage to go .. thinking of refinancing .. but not my own unit .. investment unit maybe .. i'm still scared everytime i get a call from the bank

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post Mar 4 2009, 10:10 AM

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QUOTE(jasonhanjk @ Mar 4 2009, 09:42 AM)
You can hold them under your name if you like. Another rule is 3 commercial property.
Your car now can be an expense.
The fuel to drive you around to look at properties are deductable.
"Belanja" lunch on agents whom work for you is an expense.
Real estate courses / books is an expense.

Since I never done this before, don't trust me on these things. biggrin.gif


Added on March 4, 2009, 9:47 am

There are good debt and bad debt.

Bad debt is the debt you have to repay for you house that you stay in.
Good debt is your debt on the investment house that generates income and put money in your pocket.

The more good debt you have, the richer you become.
Of course I have to caution the excessive use of debt.
Treat it like a double edge knife.
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agreed .. i prefer to secure the roof over my head first .. i'm a freelancer and have no set monthly income .. so i'm prone to being broke at times ... so at least if i go broke .. i won;t have my house taken from me ... hehe looks like this thread is doing good huh ... hope u guys can maintain this thread as a point of advice for others .. your all giving good advice .. i'd just like to start trolling this thread from now on
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hmm bandar puteri puchong ... now correct me if i am wrong ... one of the pioneer projects in puchong? i donno which phase is yours la .. but if it is one of the phases from late 2002 or early 2003, then the developer selling price was Rm250k onwards ... so ... i say wait .. cause puchong is a new area .. with new areas come new families .. alot of them still are paying off their mortgages and puchong is average household income i would say is between Rm3k to Rm8k ... so i believe once the recession fully hits .. let say in a year and a half or so ... there might be some foreclosures .. then you'll be able to pick up them up real cheap ...why/

cause i.e. Rm250k .. loaned Rm225k ... after about 6 years probably still owes Rm200k please don't nit pick just an estimation ... so ... if owner loses job, he will be willing to go down to as low as RM200k since he only needs to settle Rm200k with the bank ... now ... i'm not saying you will get a property at Rm200k .. but i'm saying you will get marginally cheaer then if u get something now ... just wait and look see look see for another 8 - 12 months .. yes timing is not a factor in property .. but if we look at things from a median or statiscal point of view, by june negative growth, companies fold or downsize, employess retrenched, employee has savings of 6 months asusming ... by third month he is desperate .. starts to sell his house, going lower and lower the closer he is to foreclosure, by 5th month just crumbles under pressure and sells just enough to settle bank loan. i donno lar .. it's an assumption only .. but i say wait ... properties in the area should be worth 5 - 10% less then what your getting from the valuers ... but the full extennt of the recession has not hit yet .. i'd say 3rd quarter 09 ... smile.gif my POV please someone who is more familiar give your suggestion
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QUOTE(Pai @ Mar 4 2009, 05:15 PM)
One of your best comments IMO, chief  nod.gif

I share the same view, and similar stories with properties in Ara D, Putra Heights, Kota Kemuning, Setia, DPC, SPk etc. There will be bargains available for those who wait  smile.gif
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thanks pai means alot coming from you ... any views on klcc area? anyone at all? especially in regards to commercial space both retail and offices ... i'm keen in what's going on down there .. especially with the 8,000,000 ft2 supply in the next coming 2 years .. i already see commercial developments slowing down construction .. especially in PJ area ...


Added on March 4, 2009, 5:23 pm
QUOTE(Tohsan @ Mar 4 2009, 02:51 PM)
looqsonline

i m looking for a double storey house (freehold) to stay, are those houses in Bandar Puteri Puchong worth to buy now? or should I wait for the prices to go down further.
Most of the house for sub-sales are quoting average RM390 to RM420k for a 20' x 75' unit. Whats my entry cost if I decide to get a house worth RM400k?
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for cost of entry .. i believe jasonhanjk or pheno_142 have got good accurate advice on this subject.,..

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post Mar 4 2009, 10:13 PM

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QUOTE(kedilicious @ Mar 4 2009, 05:31 PM)
what do u think the other good investment places except of klang valley?
do u think the klang property near setia alam der is good investment, because there is a new development area.
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the secret is fundamentals ... i.e. a nice area that is prone to flooding .... no no ... nice area with a under powered sub station .. no no .... nice area with bad access no no .... let's not go into speculation ... so what's the fundamental's of real estate investment? LIVABILITY!! i can't stress on is more. mont kiara good place to live? yes ... sunrise area of MK good area to live? NO! access is getting over crowded. MK area value for money? no ... initial properties there started selling in mid 90s at RM150 - RM200 psf plus plus ... when property values in MK had strong fundamentals in the early 00s prices there were 200 - 300 psf now ... new units are between 800-900 psf 1,000 psf also got .. Owner occ low .. speculators high ... so conclusion nice place to live if u don't mind drop in price value but only at the hill top area .. argh i totally forgot the name ... ... always look at the fundamentals .... i've been stressing on and on about this ... unless of course you have the instruments to specualte or even the capital to hold ... ... otherwise always look at the fundamentals ... go mid to long term .. always look for +ve cashflow first ... Klang valley has to many pockets of solid property investments .. my own personal favorite, old klang road cause i live there and i understand how convenient it is .. but if u ask someone from wangsa maju, they will not understand .. they will tell u wangsa maju is the best ... .. every one has their own .. there is no one place that is better then the other ... also the higher your risks the higher your returns ... market timing as well ... really really hard to say where is a good place ... i.e. everyone tot kemuning was a good area ... people qued for a week to buy paramount's project because it was cheaper then all the other projects ... now everyone is either selling at no profit or losing money ... but then again people who bought the terrace houses did make about 10-20% initially .. but .. high risk .. low returns .. why high risk, cause there was an oversupply of units there and no reason for people to live there ... so bad investment ... then you have 2 fundamentals to look at ... where your cash comes from .. either capital appreciation or rental ... so ... if your going for short term .. go all out for capital appreciation .. f your going for mid term .. go for a mix of capital appreciation and rental .. if your going for long term or something to retire on .. rental potential first .. then capital appreciation .. u see investing in property is not like investing in stocks .. stocks sometimes just don't make sense .. but property takes alot of common sense and patience .. but both are the same .. supply and demand .. for either to profit ther emust be an offer higher then what u offered ... then learn about the instruments that are available to you .. tax breaks, banks etc etc ... anyone else got anything to add? there might be alot who have other ideas about the fundamentals of property investment please share your 2 cents ..

p.s. a majority of people involved in property i have met have one thing in common ... they love to get in the car and drive around ... and they are very aware of their surroundings ... they can even notice a stupid signboard or bad road planning ... and they usually have alot of comments on how planning should have been done with more common sense so people can live more easily ...


Added on March 4, 2009, 10:23 pmnow .. another important hting ... always have passion .. you must be passionate about property to become a good investor .... u must want to wake up and drive around to look for houses .. u must want to spend months creating scenarios about your invesment .. u must want to stand and vision how the living room can look like ... how the bed room can look like and envision who will want to stay there ... i'll be honest .. i don't know much about investing in individual properties .. but i am passionate about and i even have a vision of my first property development in KL .. and i can say that at 26 i have learnt alot more then alot of other property agents .. i love going on site to see people build properties .. u jsut can't do it with out passion ... anywya my passion is to redevelop jalan alor and jalan imbi .. i can walk around jalan alor and jalan imbi .. and i even know where i want to start .. which buildings should be demolished and which buildings should renovated to look retro and yuppy ... i don;t know if i can ever do that .. but again .. it is just a love for property lar .... seriously .. i.e. jaan alor .. i'd like to transofrm that place into a creative centre of malaysia ... hai .. i need to take a bath .. one day we all go jalan alor and i tell u my vision .. you all can starting investing in my vision now ... heheheheh

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QUOTE(alfredfx @ Mar 8 2009, 01:06 PM)
Sifus here really give a good insight on how to invest in property, salute !

I am a newbie and i have a few questions hoping Sifus here can help to clear my doubts.

1. How do you actually find out, what is the rental and maintenance fee of a particular apartment/condo/residential area/shoplot/commercial area?

2. How do you know whether the property you bought is overvalued or undervalued?

3. How do you consider a place has good access to all basic infra?

4. How do you negotiate for a good price?
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1. cold calls ...

2. the best best way is to either be really close to a banker and have him help u get verbal indications .. verbal indications are usually less market by 5-10 ... or u can get an agent ... most agent have a starfish system which has a large record of classifieds so u can see what other people are selling at .. or even better .. get an agent from an estate agency with a valuation firm .. they have transaction records ...

3. what is infra? classic infra .. water elec gas tel roads ... modern infra .. internet public transport ... ammenities .. commerce schools laundry groceries banks pos office .. and other forms of livelyhood services .. but in most parts of KL infra and ammenities are sufficient .. so then you look at accesibility ... examples of good infra and ammenities .. sri hartamas .. mutiara damansara .. bangsar .. ... pantai ... old klang road .. ss15 and sunway .. ss2 .. ttdi ... etc etc .. examples of good infra good ammenities .. semi accesibility bad commerce ... gombak .. er .. the indian temple area ... shit what's the name .. someone please .. on the way to genting .. kajang .. reeason .. far from commerce

4. negotiate for a good price .. first rule .. be humble .. be very very humble .. i.e. eh bro really really really love your property but i'm seriously sorry la ... i've gone back and counted i really don't have so much also the bank won't be willing to borrow me so much ... but i can squeeze out another 5 % of what your offering .. i hope you will consider ... then wait a week .. and call back and beg some more ... second rule .. always be willing to walk away .... some sellers are just b****es ... never never act rich .. never never acting rich doesn't work .. it will only work with agents ... but not if u deal directly with sellers... anyway just put ur sef in the situation of the seller and youy'll understand what will make him sell ... even when your buying your selling .. your selling your money in exchange for his property .. just remeber that .. but if your willing tow alk away .. then ur king .. anyway this one very hard to teach la .. you'll just have to go out and try yourself .. try 5 times .. nego till the lowest price and when they agree just walk away .. nvm if they f*** kau u .. it's still a good learning experience .. just don't do that to me .. smile.gif


Added on March 9, 2009, 1:22 am
QUOTE(meejawa @ Mar 8 2009, 11:09 PM)
Quite strange that you asked abt GH smile.gif the rent was abt rm1300 eight years ago, and it has doubled more or less today. Prices also have interestingly doubled. Using simple calculation, capital increase was abt 8 pc, which I'd decent. One of the mislooked place but gave decent return. Today u need to look around but good units are not hard to get. Good luck!
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where is this gurney heights? condo or area? is it near PWTC?

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QUOTE(Phoeni_142 @ Apr 5 2009, 09:53 PM)
own stay or investment?

My 2 cents.

1.  RM 490K for a 22 x 75 leaves much to be desired. 

2.  Sutera Damansara is NOT zoned as a formal part of the Damansara District.  Do not be fooled by the address.  If memory serves, I think it's zoned as part of the Sungai Buloh district.

3.  The location isn't that appealing to me.  It's past D. Perdana, after the toll.

4.  If you're willing to spend 490K - I'd rather bargain hunt for D. Utama, or BU 11 and 12.  The address is better, plus they are proven as established and mass affluent areas. 

Many other things to type.  But that's it for now. good luck.
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i agree with phoeni on all accounts .... anyway ... u will never see the access road to mutiara damansara from damai ... u will never ever .. will i might be wrong .. but it's not gonna be an easy task ... khir toyo couldn't get it "approved" in time .. further more the access is going through a reserve forest ... and also since MK is out of that area .. i donno who is gonna go stuff officials with money for the approval ... unless the government releases the reserve and approves it for development ..
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QUOTE(nimloth32 @ Apr 6 2009, 10:53 PM)
hi, i would like to ask for advice on my father's behalf..my family is planning to buy one of the apartments at the view (a.k.a the twin tower) at penang island..The price is around RM 630k and it is located at 22nd floor..around 2010 square feet if i am not mistaken..it is for own stay..you can see the apartment right in front of you beneath the bridge if you travel to penang via penang bridge..which is around gelugor if i am not mistaken..

so is it a good investment?

thx..i just want to ask for some insights from the sifu..cheers.. smile.gif
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huh? 630k?

if i'm not mistaken ... i thought it was going at about 1 m plus or 500 psf?
even at launch also 800k onwards ..

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QUOTE(jojoe @ Apr 6 2009, 11:33 PM)
which area in kl still can be invest??
and what is consider a good location?
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hi thanks for posting here .. but in regards to this question, please read through the thread .. your questions have been discussed many times


Added on April 7, 2009, 9:56 am
QUOTE(alfredfx @ Apr 7 2009, 01:36 AM)
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tmn cannaught, 22x75, 280k - 330k , 5r3b / 4r3b
ok not.. any idea what is the rental at that area.
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taman cannaought .. terrace or semi?

most probably terrace ... 280-330 mmm .. depending on condition and extent of reno ... right now my personal fair value of the area would be ... 260-310 .. or .. 8-10% less ... anyway cannaught old area .. many established families staying there so i doubt u'll find desperate sellers so easily .. so i reckon .. 8-10% less in view of demand would be a fair value .. rental ah ... at the moment i think about 800-1300 ... if not wrong ah ... not very strong demand for rental la .. but for that price, only few km away in taman desa, the condos there will get u better returns, better tenants. 300k condo can fetch 2k ...


Added on April 7, 2009, 9:56 am
QUOTE(koopa @ Apr 6 2009, 11:49 PM)
Hi there, i have a couple of question.

1. What do u do if there is a tenant in your apartment after getting an auction unit?

2. I know you can only collect the rent after the bank has released the money right? Which is, say.. 2 months after signing the SNP at the auction. What do do with the tenant meanwhile? Kick them out or attempt to renew the tenancy agreement?

3. What if they dont want to agree with the tenancy agreement? What if the previous owner "ran away" with their 2 months deposit? Is if fair for them to pay another 2 months deposit?

4. Do you have any experience with embassy as tenant? The tenancy agreement procedure is quite complicated right?

Thanks in advance.
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QUOTE(nimloth32 @ Apr 6 2009, 10:53 PM)
hi, i would like to ask for advice on my father's behalf..my family is planning to buy one of the apartments at the view (a.k.a the twin tower) at penang island..The price is around RM 630k and it is located at 22nd floor..around 2010 square feet if i am not mistaken..it is for own stay..you can see the apartment right in front of you beneath the bridge if you travel to penang via penang bridge..which is around gelugor if i am not mistaken..

so is it a good investment?

thx..i just want to ask for some insights from the sifu..cheers.. smile.gif
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any penangites here?

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,... buy sg ... force sale properties going for half the price with the bank calling for a top up on the difference of the loan and current valuation ......

1m for ara hill?? with the huge river between ara and other more developed areas of PJ and SJ .. i feel it's gonna be isolated after this roun d of crisis .. start looking at MK .. once the recovery comes, this place is gonna boom ..... i think er .. aiya forgot the project name .. but the one on top of the hill at the end of the road .. might get some good deals for 500K or at RM200 PSF maybe but i wouldn't know haven't been at it for a long time .. but .. ara .. i'd rather buy 2 units at RM450-500 at riana greens or something around tropicana if your looking for resort styled living ... although ara hill is by sime darby .. but the golf club might have a bit of problems especially since club memebership is dwindling .. or if your lucky, u get a spillover from the long list of people wanting to join tropicana and subang ... anyway .. ara .. er .. i personally don't like anything along jalan laapangan terbang subang .. 1 m is hefty .. if it's 500 i say go all out for it .. but 1m in a new area ... have u been behind the subang airport? even the new highway from sungai buloh to subang airport looks far from finished .. i mean there is potential .. just that at 1m .. there are alot of other choices .. since ur gonna live in it .. i guess ur looking at capital appreciation ... doubt it can get any higher then 1m in the next 10 years .. till maybe subang airport area develops and land there goes for 300-350>psf ... ... hmm ... ara .. i have mixed feelings about this one ... i'm 50 50 on the basic fundamentals of subang .. but if i take the 1m price tag and the very conventional concept and architecture ... i'm like 30 70 ... again 1 m .. many other places to invest .. but if u can afford it and is confident of paying that RM600 a month plus u see ur self staying in the same place for a lojng time , and u feel convinient to have a family there ... but something else u might need to consider if ur buying ara for it's resort styled living .. there are other more established and succesful golf courses offering non landed living for 70% of the price within high growth areas .. i.e. tropicana and i am not sure about this .. please go and check urself.,... i thionk siime darby has residential projects in KLGCC ...


Added on May 4, 2009, 7:46 pmhmm anyway .. i think malaysia might get out this and maintain plateaued growth in the next 1 year or so .. since major global markets like singapore and hongkong are slumping like mad, thailand is like a headless chicken ... philipines seems to be having a strain since it's millions of workforce overseas are losing jobs and might have some political instability in the near future ... further more uplifting the 30% bumi equity is a really positive thing ... i'm not racist nor am i against anyone .. i'm just stating facts ... might become unpopular after this but .. the nep has been like a strangle hold on the malaysian economy i.e. malaysian economy is only 70% of what's possible with the nep ... please again .. i'm sorry if i offend anyone .. but i'm just stating facts .. .. i'm kinda positive on overall sentiments ... but property market will remain in a slum over the next couple of years ... again i'm anxious to see najib's 100 days in office ..


Added on May 4, 2009, 8:00 pm
QUOTE(Pai @ May 4 2009, 05:52 PM)
IMO, your fiancee and her family should have a voting power only if she's assuming 50% responsibilty for monthly repayments and losses in the future. If not, decision should be solely yours to make as the risk is your's alone. After all, she's only a fiancee today, and anything could happen in the future.

Btw, a 2+1 bed unit is not sufficient for 2 person?
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er ... area? it's hard to advice based on what ur telling here ... 11.2 points would be about 5,300 SFt? and 10.7 points would be about 5,000 SFt?


Added on May 11, 2009, 4:56 pmanyway .... there seems to be an opportunity in industrial properties ... especially SME industrial lots especially in JB and also it looks like najib's on the right track? ... any one else with comments on this statement?

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