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post Nov 14 2008, 08:57 AM

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QUOTE(Malefic @ Nov 13 2008, 09:45 PM)
Nice write-up on opportunities in business. Would like to hear your opinion on stocks and property.

How badly has the real estate agents and mortgage sales bankers been hit? Read in another thread that a local bank is currently approving only 10% of all home loan applications received?

If any leng lui needs money badly, I can help  brows.gif
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Well stocks and property wise, the buffet theory plays buy low sell high. Go in when people are going out and go out when people are going in.

Real estate and mortgage ah ... well those who don't think hard enough are getting hit hard


Added on November 14, 2008, 8:59 am
QUOTE(Malefic @ Nov 13 2008, 09:45 PM)
Nice write-up on opportunities in business. Would like to hear your opinion on stocks and property.

How badly has the real estate agents and mortgage sales bankers been hit? Read in another thread that a local bank is currently approving only 10% of all home loan applications received?

If any leng lui needs money badly, I can help  brows.gif
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WOIII this is lowyat.net la not mamakspecial.com hahahaha


Added on November 14, 2008, 9:03 am
QUOTE(Malefic @ Nov 13 2008, 09:45 PM)
Nice write-up on opportunities in business. Would like to hear your opinion on stocks and property.

How badly has the real estate agents and mortgage sales bankers been hit? Read in another thread that a local bank is currently approving only 10% of all home loan applications received?

If any leng lui needs money badly, I can help  brows.gif
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In fact, here u see an opportunity by its self. Mortgage brokering

This post has been edited by looqsonline: Nov 14 2008, 09:03 AM
Pai
post Nov 18 2008, 09:29 AM

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looqsonline,

Thanks for the write up. So now, whats your next move? smile.gif
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post Nov 25 2008, 09:37 AM

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http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...29&sec=business

apparently things are not as rosy as previously said by Zeti


Added on November 25, 2008, 9:40 am
QUOTE(Pai @ Nov 18 2008, 09:29 AM)
looqsonline,

Thanks for the write up. So now, whats your next move? smile.gif
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hmmm next move ah ... thinking of corporate day care. A friend's parents just bought shares in a child care company. any comments? you ler pai what's your plan? hey anyway never really found out what is it exactly that you do ...


Added on November 25, 2008, 9:53 am
QUOTE(Malefic @ Nov 13 2008, 09:45 PM)
Nice write-up on opportunities in business. Would like to hear your opinion on stocks and property.

How badly has the real estate agents and mortgage sales bankers been hit? Read in another thread that a local bank is currently approving only 10% of all home loan applications received?

If any leng lui needs money badly, I can help  brows.gif
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well at current i still see lots of opportunities in stocks & property. I'll just let you know i have very minimal knowledge in stocks. Further more i don't like stocks. One of the reasons why i don't like stocks is because there is nothing physical for me to see. I believe in strong fundamentals that's why i choose property. Also with property i can actually see the factors that makes it successful. As for stocks, it is all that i read on financial papers and what i hear from news how true it is i don't know.

In regards to what i i think about property, i'll talk more about in the next few days kinda busy with work now.

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post Nov 25 2008, 10:24 AM

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looqsonline,

I currently have a regular day 2 day job, wont be making any moves in property or stock over the next few months after my recent foray.

However, very tempted to start my own thing on the sideline now, in services indutry. Still pondering........ wink.gif
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post Nov 25 2008, 12:26 PM

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QUOTE(Pai @ Nov 25 2008, 10:24 AM)
looqsonline,

I currently have a regular day 2 day job, wont be making any moves in property or stock over the next few months after my recent foray.

However, very tempted to start my own thing on the sideline now, in services indutry. Still pondering........ wink.gif
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what's your strength? as in skills abilities etc etc and who are u networks and what field have u been working in?
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post Nov 25 2008, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(looqsonline @ Nov 25 2008, 12:26 PM)
what's your strength? as in skills abilities etc etc and who are u networks and what field have u been working in?
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dunno how to answer u can give example ka?
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post Nov 25 2008, 10:43 PM

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QUOTE(Pai @ Nov 25 2008, 10:24 AM)
However, very tempted to start my own thing on the sideline now, in services indutry. Still pondering........ wink.gif
let's see sideline that can take up beside day 2 day job.
- freelance related to ur day2day job - ready skill n contacts
- freelance related to ur hobby
- blogging - low initial return though
- online lelong trader
- oversea stock trader - keep day time job, nite time trader shocking.gif

others either become dormant investor let partner manage biz otherwise gotta quit job to full time .. what do u think
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QUOTE(pocalypse @ Nov 25 2008, 10:43 PM)
let's see sideline that can take up beside day 2 day job.
- freelance related to ur day2day job - ready skill n contacts
- freelance related to ur hobby
- blogging - low initial return though
- online lelong trader
- oversea stock trader - keep day time job, nite time trader  shocking.gif

others either become dormant investor let partner manage biz otherwise gotta quit job to full time .. what do u think
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2nd last one is my preferred choice today smile.gif
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post Nov 27 2008, 10:55 PM

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Tang, need some adv from you. I'm looking for a double storey hse around in Subang for own stay I know the properties there are kinda old which I don't really mind. Here's my question.

1.Among the areas in Subang for e.g USJs , SS17, SS18 etc which one do you think has the most strategic location in your own views and why.

2.As i mentioned, the locations are quite established, do you think it's worth buying?

3. Or is it better to park my money in those KKemuning, SAlam

Thanks in advance bro!
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post Dec 3 2008, 04:48 PM

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QUOTE(ej_italia @ Nov 27 2008, 10:55 PM)
Tang, need some adv from you. I'm looking for a double storey hse around in Subang for own stay I know the properties there are kinda old which I don't really mind. Here's my question.

1.Among the areas in Subang for e.g USJs , SS17, SS18 etc which one do you think has the most strategic location in your own views and why.

2.As i mentioned, the locations are quite established, do you think it's worth buying?

3. Or is it better to park my money in those KKemuning, SAlam

Thanks in advance bro!
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hmmm old ok but always watch out for terrace houses frmo the 70s and 80s ... cause they might be using a connected roof beam. If that beam is rosak, your gonna have lotsa problems. Well again like i've mentioned, alot of times it depends on yourself. What your income level is, are u planning for a second house anytime soon? are u looking for high rental or moderate rental vs high appreciation or moderate appreciation. Where do you work, and are u married with kids now? Can u please give me more info? but if ur talking about subang, i would say usj 3. Could you please give me more specifics? I would say move to kemuning but where do work? I like paramount's project in kemuning the best. Anyway kemuning is selling cheap now ler ... but anywya please do give more specifics like previously mentioned and also a few areas of your choice then i can do a comparision for you. But overall i don't like usj because of the industrial area next to it and also the kampung area that is still nearby. but please do provide more specifics thanks
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post Dec 3 2008, 11:07 PM

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QUOTE(looqsonline @ Dec 3 2008, 04:48 PM)
hmmm old ok but always watch out for terrace houses frmo the 70s and 80s ... cause they might be using a connected roof beam. If that beam is rosak, your gonna have lotsa problems. Well again like i've mentioned, alot of times it depends on yourself. What your income level is, are u planning for a second house anytime soon? are u looking for high rental or moderate rental vs high appreciation or moderate  appreciation. Where do you work, and are u married with kids now?  Can u please give me more info? but if ur talking about subang, i would say usj 3. Could you please give me more specifics? I would say move to kemuning but where do work? I like paramount's project in kemuning the best. Anyway kemuning is selling cheap now ler ... but anywya please do give more specifics like previously mentioned and also a few areas of your choice then i can do a comparision for you. But overall i don't like usj because of the industrial area next to it and also the kampung area that is still nearby. but please do provide more specifics thanks
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Oh ok, firstly i'm not planning for second house anytime soon. My budget is around 300k - 400k properties. My intention to look for properties around Subang for own stay with view of appreciation in future(at least 5-10years). I'm single, attached but still available (jk), maybe will be married in two years time, work for MAS which is quite convenient for me. I find the Kemuning area a bit too far. I prefer established area like Subang Jaya, which i think the risk is lower? One concern is house is old, and renovation might cost a bomb, but the built up area for these places are larger than the newer dbs houses right?

What do you reckon my friend?
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post Dec 4 2008, 03:30 AM

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Hi Dr RE and everybody in this forum,

Greetings to you.

This is my first attempt in purchasing a property for own stay. May i seek your advise?
Me and my wife found a used condo Green Acre Sungai Long. The unit is in good condition and has minor renovations. It seems the reno cost about rm10k.The owner wants to sell for RM145k.

Is it worth the buy? unsure.gif

cheers,



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QUOTE(Lot3010 @ Dec 4 2008, 03:30 AM)
Hi Dr RE and everybody in this forum,

Greetings to you.

This is my first attempt in purchasing a property for own stay. May i seek your advise?
Me and my wife found a used condo Green Acre Sungai Long. The unit is in good condition and has minor renovations.  It seems the reno cost about rm10k.The owner wants to sell for RM145k.

Is it worth the buy? unsure.gif

cheers,
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To become a succesful property investor or even homebuyer is not only to know your stuff but to know how to negotiate. The secret to succesful negotiation is to never be desperate. Always be willing to walk away from a deal and also to never regret not having PJ. Sungai long at RM145k sounds reasonable but then again depending on a few factors. Have u got a picture of the place? anyway i'll tsop here continue tonight actually in a meeting now


Added on December 4, 2008, 10:23 am
QUOTE(ej_italia @ Dec 3 2008, 11:07 PM)
Oh ok, firstly i'm not planning for second house anytime soon. My budget is around 300k - 400k properties.  My intention to look for properties around Subang for own stay with view of appreciation in future(at least  5-10years). I'm single, attached but still available (jk), maybe will be married in two years time, work for MAS which is quite convenient for me. I find the Kemuning area a bit too far. I prefer established area like Subang Jaya, which i think the risk is lower? One concern is house is old, and renovation might cost a bomb, but the built up area for these places are larger than the newer dbs houses right?

What do you reckon my friend?
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you work for mas air steward or what? so u go down to the mas office in subang airport quite often?

anyway usj is one of those places that are steadily increasing. It is in the middle of a property's lifecycle. I don't really know how to term this but i hope u guys catch my drift. USJ and its surroundings is mainly populated by educated people. Mix of chinese malay and indian english speaking community. Average household income is between 5k to about 10-12k. Now imagine there is a guy tom. Tom comes from a middle income family who lives in subang jaya, he works in shah alam and when he got his first 4k a month job and his first girlfriend, he decided to move out. He moves to USJ because it is where he feels comfortable and he feels there is enough ammenities there for him. But of course tom as an educated english speaking malaysian, he is always looking for better living conditions. He doesn't like USJ's congestion and he doesn;t like how USJ is less accesible. On weekends he likes to spend his time at the curve or in Bangsar with his other english speaking friends. So then he decides that he wants to move upmarket. So one day he goes down to KL and gets himself a job at a multinational company with a 9k salaray he gets married to his girlfriend and he decides its time to start a family. USJ maybe good at 400k but when he can afford a place at 700k he starts to shop around. The first place he avoids is cheras. He doesnt like the ching chong chinaman feel to cheras so he looks at places like MK sri hartamas, damansara perdana, bukit damansara, bangsar, PJ, seputeh etc etc that is in between PJ and KL. USJ is what i would term a middle life property. USJ is where you stay when you are around your 20s and 30s and your household income is between 4k to 7 or 8 k. Prices there will rise with rise market but they will never fluctuate above market. Now the older families where they have kids that are in college, they may have been living there for so long that they have gotten used to it. As for the next generation of home buyers, we have become easy to adapt and fast to change also you may see alot of families there but they are there not by choice. People always want something better and new developments have provided that. Before buying a house used to be about the house itself, how big the land, how big the living area. But because of the competitive housing market, developers have started targeting lifestyle. and house buyers now consider the lifestyle they get from the area they live.

From what i understand about you, your probably a mid income person with about 4-6k amonth. USJ will be a good choice for you. Although i would say kemuning has more room to grow then usj in the next 5-10 years but USJ will rise steadily as it always has. Also when buying a house, we tend to find areas where we feel the people are most like us. I have divided this into 2 catogories, english speaking and native toungue people. to explain this better, english speaking people like to drink at the loft, chinese speaking people like to go to karaoke pubs. So sometimes when you buy propety, you will also have to look at the where the trend is moving towards. Will people in KL in the next 10-20years be more likely turned into an english speaking crowd that will want to live in areas that give them the english speaking feel?

Oh ya i also don't liek USJ's roadplanning which has no trunk road. The interlinking of the roads are kinda bad. anyway if i were to choose Subang jaya, i'd choose ss19, usj 16 and usj 3 and 4. Anway i spent so much time talking about rubbish i forgot about your question. Anyway let me know if you'd like to know why i choose the 4 areas. And yes generally your land will be bigger then new houses. but then the layout and the ammenities in the house may not be as good as new houses that cater for modern needs. I think USJ was a late 70s early 80s area. Some please help me verify this statement.

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isnt most USJ properties are leasehold?
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post Dec 5 2008, 02:35 PM

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I will like to ask what is the minimum qualification to enter estate agent company?Diploma or Degree?
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Hi, Doc
I've been thinking of getting a property in PJ and I've been checking out Tiara Condos in Sect. 17. THey're typically priced between RM320K and RM350K. THe development is kinda old, 17 years, I think. Security is quite good and I guess the road access is okay. IN your opinion, are they worth the money spent?

Otherwise, where else around PJ would be ideal for a small family?

THanks in advance.
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QUOTE(looqsonline @ Dec 4 2008, 09:49 AM)


Added on December 4, 2008, 10:23 am

you work for mas air steward or what? so u go down to the mas office in subang airport quite often?

anyway usj is one of those places that are steadily increasing. It is in the middle of a property's lifecycle. I don't really know how to term this but i hope u guys catch my drift. USJ and its surroundings is mainly populated by educated people. Mix of chinese malay and indian english speaking community. Average household income is between 5k to about 10-12k. Now imagine there is a guy tom. Tom comes from a middle income family who lives in subang jaya, he works in shah alam and when he got his first 4k a month job and his first girlfriend, he decided to move out. He moves to USJ because it is where he feels comfortable and he feels there is enough ammenities there for him. But of course tom as an educated english speaking malaysian, he is always looking for better living conditions. He doesn't like USJ's congestion and he doesn;t like how USJ is less accesible. On weekends he likes to spend his time at the curve or in Bangsar with his other english speaking friends. So then he decides that he wants to move upmarket. So one day he goes down to KL and gets himself a job at a multinational company with a 9k salaray he gets married to his girlfriend and he decides its time to start a family. USJ maybe good at 400k but when he can afford a place at 700k he starts to shop around. The first place he avoids is cheras. He doesnt  like the ching chong chinaman feel to cheras so he looks at places like MK sri hartamas, damansara perdana, bukit damansara, bangsar, PJ, seputeh etc etc that is in between PJ and KL. USJ is what i would term a middle life property. USJ is where you stay when you are around your 20s and 30s and your household income is between 4k to 7 or 8 k. Prices there will rise with rise market but they will never fluctuate above market. Now the older families where they have kids that are in college, they may have been living there for so long that they have gotten used to it. As for the next generation of home buyers, we have become easy to adapt and fast to change also you may see alot of families there but they are there not by choice. People always want something better and new developments have provided that. Before buying a house used to be about the house itself, how big the land, how big the living area. But because of the competitive housing market, developers have started targeting lifestyle. and house buyers now consider the lifestyle they get from the area they live.

From what i understand about you, your probably a mid income person with about 4-6k amonth. USJ will be a good choice for you. Although i would say kemuning has more room to grow then usj in the next 5-10 years but USJ will rise steadily as it always has. Also when buying a house, we tend to find areas where we feel the people are most like us. I have divided this into 2 catogories, english speaking and native toungue people. to explain this better, english speaking people like to drink at the loft, chinese speaking people like to go to karaoke pubs. So sometimes when you buy propety, you will also have to look at the where the trend is moving towards. Will people in KL in the next 10-20years be more likely turned into an english speaking crowd that will want to live in areas that give them the english speaking feel?

Oh ya i also don't liek USJ's roadplanning which has no trunk road. The interlinking of the roads are kinda bad. anyway if i were to choose Subang jaya, i'd choose ss19, usj 16 and usj 3 and 4. Anway i spent so much time talking about rubbish i forgot about your question. Anyway let me know if you'd like to know why i choose the 4 areas. And yes generally your land will be bigger then new houses. but then the layout and the ammenities in the house may not be as good as new houses that cater for modern needs. I think USJ was a late 70s early 80s area. Some please help me verify this statement.
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Well, that's what everyone would guess when i mentioned my company name. Anyway i'm in the management side and i work in subang airport. FYI that's where the headquarters is, there's where the MD's office is smile.gif

More infos about me i'm a simple chinese guy, mid 20s. I must say I appreciate your effort to share your wisdom & insight on RE, as i'm sure most RE experts do not share their knowledge. Do you publish any book? I know i would buy it....hehe

I think I kind of get your drift. My reason for the choice of Subang is because it seems like a great to have a family (Family Man, lolz), it's quite peaceful and accessibility is good. I have slight doubts on USJ the same reason which you've mentioned. To and fro from my office, with minimal/no jams are areas like SS17 or SS19. I don't really mind having to make minimal renov in future since properties in Subang are quite old.

My dilemmas would be:
1. With probably the same price i would be able to get a place for e.g Kota Kemuning which does not require renov or rather very little but the location is bit far (maybe in future in wont seem far?)

2. Is this the right time to buy or I should wait a while more (Referring to these areas)

I would appreciate if you explain your choices of SS19, USJ 3, 4, 16

Thanks Dr. RE notworthy.gif


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QUOTE(Pai @ Dec 4 2008, 10:57 AM)
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Freehold la...=)
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post Dec 6 2008, 10:44 PM

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Hi Tang, i need ur advise to buy a house for own stay purpose. What do u think of these area...(1) Damai Perdana, Cheras [d/storey house)], (2) Cheras Mahkota [d/storey house], (3) Kuchai lama [ condo]

B'coz of the $$$ constraints, we only afford to buy below RM250K house, so can you give me some suggestion?

Thank you in advance smile.gif
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QUOTE(lowyatben @ Dec 5 2008, 02:50 PM)
Hi, Doc
I've been thinking of getting a property in PJ and I've been checking out Tiara Condos in Sect. 17. THey're typically priced between RM320K and RM350K. THe development is kinda old, 17 years, I think. Security is quite good and I guess the road access is okay. IN your opinion, are they worth the money spent?

Otherwise, where else around PJ would be ideal for a small family?

THanks in advance.
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