unfortunately, you're still wrong.

gps is gps, no tricks and cons. it'll work as it is, and will not need network access to get it work.

take an example, N95 can lock the position without any network access. the problem with phone GPS device is, they're not as accurate as dedicated gps device, and they take a long time for the initial locking, hence the need of Assisted-GPS, which need the help of GPRS for more information on satelite locking.

you can bring N95 for jungle tracking, no problem, just that it may have a hard time locking the satelite signal due to many trees blocking the sky.

845SGD ~ 2.2k?

I went to phone shops dee, stil can't see it out yet. Anyone knows the RM price? If it retails for 2k below, seems good entry price.

im currently using pda phones which have gps...for normal phones , im really not sure how well gps works on them..so i really wonder how well this will be...as for a normal gps phones they may have soft ware like garmin or mapking to support..wat i understand that they will use google map which will need constant gprs connection to get the update or watsoever...i have also heard on the wayfinder.which i really not sure how it works...maybe is there anyone to enlighten me on this?

im also quite intereseted to know if this phones can really good for heavy surfers like us..hehehhe..i wonder if we can see youtube stuff from it...hahhhaha.and also will wonder if we can chat via msn thru this phones..hahahha

This post has been edited by wil_shakespeare84: Oct 26 2008, 01:37 AM

google map need constant network access because it's designed that you cannot store the map in your phone cause the database is too big to fit into a phone so google rather have you download the map in realtime instead.

not sure about viewfinder, but from what i read about it, it's not free, but 3 months trials are available when you got the phone new.

as for heavy surfers and msn with this phone, i very much doubt so cause the battery capacity is not designed to handle such task and it's not a smart phone unless you can find msn or other IM for java based phone. even if you can find IM for java based phone, i doubt it'll support multi tasking, means you cannot run it in the background while doing other things.

if you want more multimedia entertainment along with camera with xenon flash, N82 is the best choice imvho, and the price is quite cheap consider what it can do too.

thanks for the explaination on GPS. I'm still not really familiar with it.

From what I understand that you need some kind of service or go online to triangulate your current position then give directions to where you want to go. So does that mean its like data charges? or a seperate kind of service? Because I have a friend who has a n95 and pays a monthly fee for his gps.

Also, is there a offline map that can be used with the c905. So lets say if i need to find a place, i just find point A (my current location) manually then locate point B and the program/application finds the fastest route.

the triangulate service is GPRS which is what used in AGPS as explained before. GPS can be used by itself just that you'll wait until your coffee become cold then only it'll lock on.

N95 monthly fees is the realtime voice navigation, but the map application itself can have virtual routing that cannot be use in realtime, and the maps itself is free to use.

about the offline map for C905 (or other java based phone), it depends on whether the application support or not, or if the maps support cause the maps may or may not contain routing informations. if using google maps as offline but you want route, storing every route will make your phone memory explode haha. check iphone forum for more information about google maps.

thanks little ice. cleared my doubts. you really seem to know about gps =D

so when this phone release in msia ?

i think will be around end of the year... as itz the last batch of SE of the year...

is it touch screen>?

nope...

it seems like the C905 will come with a pouch... check the unboxing here: http://www.eprice.com.tw/mobile/talk/?prod...112&tid=3912005

wow... white color is great... but the pouch is same lik P1 rite?? if i not mistaken...

Just got my C905... hehehehhe... happy leh~nc phone.. very nc camera...^^,

can post some of the sample pic taken wit c905??

i wud say you still abit misunderstand about GPS and AGPS here.
but i explain the bold here. when you are in oversea, you still can get satellite lock but the only thing you cant do is download the maps and AGPS data. thats y the review said you have to get the local simcard to use the GPS, because it doesnt have offline map and googlemap need to download those maps via GPRS.
So, GPS is a chipset for getting your coordinates.
AGPS is to triangulate the position by downloading datas from network and help GPS chipset lock faster.
But AGPS is unusable if there is no GPS chipset preset. unlike iphone2G (which doesnt have GPS) uses network to determine your position but it doesnt use AGPS system, but something similar to it which triangulation via wifi/telco, but we in malaysia isnt like oversea which have wifi station everywhere, hence iphone2G hardly determine the real location of you.

yes i wud agree with ice here. as for jungle trekking, a different type of GPS receiver is needed, something for offroad like my friend owns.
the reason why N95 take slower lock is because of the chipset is not slightly inferior compare with those dedicated GPS unit or even PDA phones. that is why Agps is greatly needed, because when you are lost, you dont want to take 30mins to lock your coordinates.

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Added on October 27, 2008, 12:53 pmThat is because ur friend is using Nokia Maps 2.0.. unlike me, i uses Garmin Mobile XT and i dont need to pay fees for GPS usage. and again, C905 googlemap doesnt offers navigation. so it wud not find the fastest/shortest route via googlemap.

This post has been edited by Seaedge: Oct 27 2008, 12:53 PM

mnpl, you got ur c905??
from where? price?

ooo...local set?pricing?where did u get it from?i have roamed numerous places....no news on it....

cool phone... oh yea.. mnpl.. where do u get the phone from?? how much is it cost?

I getting it soon..In UK few days ago launched already..