Sure.. when i get out of BT and not hv 24 ppl wait for me

then you'll never know who did it as you need the 24 other asses spamming ur UI channel.

I am having this problem now................

Sometimes the old LUA files also causes issues, even when the addon is turn off.

Or, move zour entire WTF and Addon folder temporarily out of the WoW Folder and run it again.

OK. An update. I found out that its impossible to raid on 60.50, 60.53, and perhaps others. These IPs won't give you any lag when you're running around, but if you zone into raids, you will DC. I DCed on MH trash until I switched IPs around.

Workable IPs are 60.48, 60.49, 218.111.

No, it's impossible to raid if you're in a terrible area e.g. congestion.

I can raid at 60.52 which is notoriously slow but only in my parent's house in Miri, of all places.

well if its not the connection, er. how old is your ram? I noticed u're running a P4 and was wondering how old ur ram is. Rams do have a life span. I change my rams every year and no problems so far. Try switching with a friend who has newer rams n see. It might not be it but just check n see how old they are. It might help?

And he's going to do this during a boss fight? :?

rams and connection.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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Added on June 14, 2008, 3:53 pmtheres always lesser bosses or fights that prolly dont require any addons. unless ur just trying to make a point that you cant play for shit without addons carrying your ass. eitherway its their call on it, mods nowdays are well known to dc/crashes considering the ammount of data spams they do for syncrhonizations. have you ever seen the mod channel? the moment you turn it visible you'll see data being spammed across in the microsecond timeframe.

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Jun 14 2008, 03:53 PM

My point is that your advice is not feasible since there is no way he'd be able to properly weed each mod out during boss fights unless 24 other players can sit there and twiddle their thumbs while someone logs out and in trying to see which mod is causing him problems.

and your totally taking it the wrong way as no one have said anything about doing it ONLY at boss fight, and/or logging in and out DURING the boss fight. why cant he just join the raid without any mods in the first place? then next raid with one or a few mods on. and whos to say he couldnt do what you said on bosses thats on farm status? im sure that if said guild is farming illidan for example, they could prolly kill a boss in tk/ssc with like 20man or less.

it could even be gruul/mags just for the sake of 25man.

my point is that if you really want to solve your problem, dont even give excuse on not taking solutions (more over those that really works) as they get you no where. feasible or not, instead of giving out opinions of how solution a wouldnt work, why not give out better solutions then?

Haha XD
I was expecting a really scathing response. But since I'm not contributing to this thread, I concede that you are right in the fact that there shouldn't be excuses for not taking solutions.

Does your guild allow you to raid without some *necessity* mod?
Like Omen?

I dont think so.

Try this, reduce the Omen threat update frequency, it may help a bit

This post has been edited by Kravo: Jun 15 2008, 12:55 PM

Ooo, great idea.. will try that.

On Addons issue, I'm one of the MT healers.. Needless to say I can't live w.o addons.
Yup, I remove WTF folder, delete cache folder, reinstall addons ..etc etc etc.. still hv high latency. Playable, but higher than usual, I'm guessing it the connection.
Ahh..it's not just at boss fight.. it was......... almost everywhere Battlegrounds, Shattrath, 5 man instances .. O well, I only read good suggestion and turn a blind eye on those scathing yet non-useful remarks.

P/S: Sadly, I can only get 60.54, 219.xx (EWWWW, very unstable) and 124.xx (very unstable too). Will see if I lag again today at 25man.. .. I'll just point my finger at tmnet if lags happen again.. .. BTW it's a she..not a he..

This post has been edited by eyantie: Jun 15 2008, 03:36 PM

I turn off Omen GUI when healing. Shouldn't be pulling aggro in single target and if multiple mob tanking for tank, then just drop in smaller heals.

And the RAM advice by noyze does help. Always a good idea to switch regularly.

raid just a few trivial bosses without necessity mods just to weed out which is causing the problem, vs no raid at all because the guy's always dc'ing.

hmm very hard choice

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Added on June 16, 2008, 3:53 ambased on what you said, it seems its the mod itself, and/or tmnut.

if i read correctly, you've stop dc'ing right? so this could mean just connection prob. (after what you did, and not dc'ing anymore, considering the cache and wtf folder deletion + mod reinstall) what you can do to further confirm this, is try to copy over your mods/ui/addons etc etc to your friend's or cyber cafe that you CONFIRM does NOT lag to play. (take caution, before doing this, make SURE, and by that i mean PERFECTLY sure that the destination ur goin to [cc or friend's place] does NOT contain trojans, viruses, and most importantly, keyloggers. make sure windows [and even adobe flash] is updated.)

OR

run without addons, if it still have the SAME lag.

if both method tested and confirmed still lagging badly, then 100% its connection and then you can either:

give a long /sigh since its tmnut screamyx (or some other random shitty msian ISP)

or

call em up and give em a piece of your mind

which ever suits you more.

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Added on June 16, 2008, 3:54 amram has nothing to do with conneciton. unless ur lagging on ur PC due to insuffecient ram. but that doesnt seem to be TS's case. (or the thread hijacker riding on TS's thread)

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Jun 16 2008, 03:54 AM

OK man. I've the VERY same problem as yours. Here's the thing I did and here's the findings I got.
Like what you said, I've the same prob as you as well. It appeared out of nowhere at all, frankly it's annoying me so much, I stopped raiding for the last four months. JUST WHEN THEY FRIGGING MADE INTO MH/BT!
... fuggers..

Anyway.

Computer/UI/Addon/whatever shits.
No, it's not your computer. I believe you've done all the necessary steps in doing that one. I've gone to the extent of changing my RAM, display unit and believe it or not, changed my OS as well. Nothing, and I mean NOTHING helped.

You get DC during heavy fights. I believe your com can take in fair amount of data, sync, but during large scale pve content, there's so much data floating around, it's simply near impossible to do it. Why? Spikes.
Yeah, connection spikes. Your UI/addon furiously try to keep up with the rest of the raid, while you're getting NO connection from the server, then after a good 2~5 seconds, you get lagged out, you'll know when it happens. You log in back again, and being in mid fight, you'll get DC AGAIN, cause your UI/addon syncs with everyone else again and it's simply not fast enough. It's bullshit, I feel you on that one.

The only thing that helped for me is rewiring the home's phoneline. Yes, I'm not kidding. I now have a direct line from the phone jack outside of the house straight in. That helped the spike bits. Also, getting the right IP for it helps a lot too. 218.111.*.* works for me now. 600~700ms, I don't quite care, as long as I don't get spikes, and I dont' get DC.

It's extremely frustrating. But yeah, it lies with your connection/line. Not your computer like the rest claims. Keep on finding the root of the prob man. Good luck!

and, how does that not relate to:


/facepalm

Not the way they decribed it. Lag spikes can't be helped. Even when disabled it still DOES causes the dc. Too much info such as damage and shit still goes thru. I've gone thru the extent of turning off damage reports down in the options, and no, I still get DC'ed.
No external UI, no external addons, no damage numbers.

Makes sense?

Yea, 60.50.x.x is terrible for raiding. It is deceptively fast during non-raid activities, but when you zone into instance with 24 ppl, it goes to sh|t