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 Taylors Or Methodist, which one is better.

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TSaniq1990
post Jun 10 2008, 08:48 PM, updated 18y ago

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hey. its time for me to choose a college, and it boils down to either taylors or methodist. i m kinda confusin in which 1 to choose. both of them sound really nice and my friends r goin to both of them. i jus need to know which in terms of A-level is better. strictly education only. i wanna noe abt da lecturers and da pros and cons of both of these institution.
thanks for da feedback.
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post Jun 10 2008, 10:49 PM

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By no means I'm boasting here
I'm from Taylors
from 2003-2006
No. of students (from Taylors) admitted into
Oxford and Cambridge: 45
Imperial College: 178
LSE: roughly 100
UCL: roughly 100
The results speak for itself
I don't know bout Methodist
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post Jun 11 2008, 01:30 AM

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taylors win hands down... why? search around other threads for a-levels
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post Jun 13 2008, 12:49 AM

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come to KYUEM tongue.gif... 10 years total number of graduated students is around 2000 over the last compared to around 10-15K students for taylors and we've had some 110 students in oxbridge, around 200 each in Imperial, UCL, LSE. Also 12 Harvard, 6 MIT, 8 Stanford and 9 Yale. Also countless in Melbourne, ANU and NUS. Don't even need to get started about the other UK universities la...
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post Jun 13 2008, 06:27 AM

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lol vikraman u student at kyuem?
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post Aug 16 2008, 08:15 PM

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Facilities wise, Taylor has the "wow" factor and Methodist College KL has none compared to it. Plus Taylor seems to be have solid reputation.

But I wanted a college with better discipline, Christian atmosphere and pastoral care for my son so picked Methodist. He just finished A Level and told me 20% of the student this year got 4As in A Level.

This post has been edited by hhkonghh: Aug 17 2008, 07:07 AM
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post Aug 16 2008, 08:31 PM

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QUOTE(K-I-R-A @ Jun 10 2008, 10:49 PM)
By no means I'm boasting here
I'm from Taylors
from 2003-2006
No. of students (from Taylors) admitted into
Oxford and Cambridge: 45
Imperial College: 178
LSE: roughly 100
UCL: roughly 100
The results speak for itself
I don't know bout Methodist
what say you? smile.gif
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Probably more than half of them are JPA scholars..

This post has been edited by ccm123: Aug 16 2008, 09:36 PM
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post Aug 17 2008, 02:38 AM

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Would like to know too, pretty interested to know both of these colleges. Not enough pictures to show their facilities and environment.
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post Aug 18 2008, 01:16 AM

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I'm from Methodist college, finish my A-levels with 3As,
quite a significant amount of them scored 4As as well.
The thing about methodist college is that it has a school-like atmosphere, small student body and small class rooms with never more than 30 students per class. almost every1 knows each other in the college so that's the plus point, lecturers are pretty good too except for Biology

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post Aug 18 2008, 01:24 AM

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post Dec 6 2010, 08:43 PM

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QUOTE(vikraman @ Jun 13 2008, 01:49 AM)
come to KYUEM tongue.gif... 10 years total number of graduated students is around 2000 over the last compared to around 10-15K students for taylors and we've had some 110 students in oxbridge, around 200 each in Imperial, UCL, LSE. Also 12 Harvard, 6 MIT, 8 Stanford and 9 Yale. Also countless in Melbourne, ANU and NUS. Don't even need to get started about the other UK universities la...
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Are you a KYUEM student? i just want to ask.....is it true that there are alot of malay students studying there? i mean as in MAJORITY???
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post Dec 6 2010, 10:37 PM

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QUOTE(eve93 @ Dec 6 2010, 08:43 PM)
Are you a KYUEM student? i just want to ask.....is it true that there are alot of malay students studying there? i mean as in MAJORITY???
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yes since majority there are sponsored students and since the quota for malays for sponsorship is high they are the huge majority there.
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post Dec 7 2010, 12:03 AM

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QUOTE(K-I-R-A @ Jun 10 2008, 10:49 PM)
By no means I'm boasting here
I'm from Taylors
from 2003-2006
No. of students (from Taylors) admitted into
Oxford and Cambridge: 45
Imperial College: 178
LSE: roughly 100
UCL: roughly 100
The results speak for itself
I don't know bout Methodist
what say you? smile.gif
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Where did you get this information? Can you prove it at all, or is it just numbers you pulled from somewhere? I mean absolutely no disrespect, I'd just like to see these for real myself.

It's true that Taylor's has a good "reputation" or is more famous. But remember that not all teachers at Taylor's are great (at either campus), or at whichever other school where you've heard of "good teachers".

Educationally, you cannot be certain if any or all of your teachers are good because you won't get to choose (or check them out before starting classes) - this could be subjective as well. I get better grades (in all subjects) than some people (students taking the same subjects), but they think one particular teacher is good while I think that teacher is bad. At the same time I think some other teachers are great, while those students think they (the teachers) aren't.

If you like Taylor's' environment, go for it. If you like Methodist's, go for it. I have met students with extremely poor results from both schools.

By the way, you're not an undergraduate yet. If you're in Malaysia, there is little advantage of attending one school over another when it comes to applications to universities in the UK or otherwise (even though I might have naively believed something along these lines at an earlier point). Don't believe me? Apply for university courses, then get back to me.

It's not just Taylor's (or Sunway, or Help, or KYUEM, or wherever) which will get you into Oxbridge or other schools in the golden triangle, or other top institutions in the UK/Ireland/Australia/USA/Canada/Singapore/Hong Kong etc. Your applications depends heavily on luck, results, timing, competitiveness of the particular course and school, personal statement, possibly interview, and possibly entrance tests. You do all the work, the school is just a place where they teach you A levels (or try) and send your application through.

In case anyone is wondering, you can specify your school on your UCAS application, though for overseas/international students' university applications the schools (in the UK) will not bother (with this information). Most schools in Malaysia send their applications through Mabecs anyways.

When you're studying for your degree, the actual school you're at might matter, and in some places, quite a lot.
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post Dec 7 2010, 01:21 AM

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QUOTE(LightningFist @ Dec 7 2010, 12:03 AM)
Where did you get this information? Can you prove it at all, or is it just numbers you pulled from somewhere? I mean absolutely no disrespect, I'd just like to see these for real myself.
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Academic excellence and unbeatable track record
At least 25% of students have achieved 3As or more in the GCE A Level Examination since 2000, whilst more than 50% of students have obtained at least one A in the examinations since 1996. Year after year, achievements are surpassed with a consistently higher number of students scoring straight A's. Our record is second to none in Malaysia, as our students have been accepted into prestigious universities around the world, such as Harvard University, University of Cambridge, University of Oxford, Imperial College, London School of Economics, Yale, Princeton, Cornell, Stanford, MIT Carnegie-Mellon, Melbourne, Sydney, National University of Singapore, Toronto and McGill.

With an outstanding track record of 18 years, Taylor's Cambridge A Levels has helped students excel academically and gain entry into top universities in the UK. To date, more than 1,000 Taylor's students have been accepted into the World's Top 100 universities in the past 5 years.
Some of the prestigious UK universities that have offered places to our students from 2003 - 2009:

University                              Total
University of Cambridge              52
University of Oxford                    4
Imperial College London              297
University of Edinburgh                176
University College London            310
King's College London                  166
London School of Economics          226
Cardiff University                          209
University of Manchester              642
University of Warwick                  496

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http://www.taylors.edu.my/courses/pre_u/pr...ding.php?id=108

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  Congratulations to all Taylor's Cambridge A Level June 2010 graduates
•  192 students achieved 4A*s/As
•  2 out of 5 students achieved at least 3As enabling them entry into the World's Top 200 universities
•  Record overall pass rate of 99.7% compared to 99.6% last year
•  5 subjects with 100% pass rate
•  A total of 1,144 As

In the past 6 years, more than 1,000 of our students have been accepted into the World's Top 200 universities such as University of Cambridge, University Oxford, Imperial College London, University College London, Columbia University, Wharton Business School, Melbourne University and London School of Economics and Political Science, just to name a few.

http://www.taylors.edu.my/courses/pre_u/pr...ding.php?id=400

View the second link and scroll downwards for the Universities the June 2009 graduates have entered and the number of students.
Numbers of University Placement only reflect those who had assistance from the Taylor's Placement Center.
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post Dec 7 2010, 01:53 AM

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While K-I-R-A claimed certain numbers with regards to admission (quote "No. of students (from Taylors) admitted into"), you posted numbers which were supposedly the number of offers made (for the universities named) in response - I have 3 offers and expect all 5, and a couple years ago students could apply for 6 places, plus offers are not admissions.

Of course you've also posted a link to 2009 admissions. They should have the 2010 admissions information, a lot has changed since 2009.

I also disagree that Cardiff and Manchester are "top universities". Regardless, everyone has a different opinion, and rankings are not always reflective of reputation and credibility.

A high pass rate can be glorified, but a pass at A level is a grade E, which takes little effort from a normal student, given that the student has had at least nearly 1 to 1.3 years of preparation.

The lack of comparative and seemingly voluminous yet deceptive data from some other schools does not mean we should automatically trump Taylor's and discredit others.

To the OP: Why Taylor's vs Methodist? Why have you ruled out other schools?
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post Dec 7 2010, 02:24 AM

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QUOTE(LightningFist @ Dec 7 2010, 01:53 AM)
While K-I-R-A claimed certain numbers with regards to admission (quote "No. of students (from Taylors) admitted into"), you posted numbers which were supposedly the number of offers made (for the universities named) in response - I have 3 offers and expect all 5, and a couple years ago students could apply for 6 places, plus offers are not admissions.

Of course you've also posted a link to 2009 admissions. They should have the 2010 admissions information, a lot has changed since 2009.

I also disagree that Cardiff and Manchester are "top universities". Regardless, everyone has a different opinion, and rankings are not always reflective of reputation and credibility.

A high pass rate can be glorified, but a pass at A level is a grade E, which takes little effort from a normal student, given that the student has had at least nearly 1 to 1.3 years of preparation.

The lack of comparative and seemingly voluminous yet deceptive data from some other schools does not mean we should automatically trump Taylor's and discredit others.

To the OP: Why Taylor's vs Methodist? Why have you ruled out other schools?
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Well you won't usually see the data for achievements of 2010 for most IPTS until 2011 when their marcomm departments publish their new prospectuses.

I have also showed somewhere before in some other thread which I'm not that interested to track back the percentage of students getting at least 3As in the June 2009 exams since that was the most recent exam at that I could fine sources to compare between some of the popular providers.
Since some of the links I quoted and taken note of has also become outdated, I'll just post the percentages. You can look for the thread I first posted the comparison in to find the quotes, it was some kind of A-Level thread as well. I tried to compare the June 2010 results but can't find the percentage of certain places in their website or newspaper articles so I'll wait till they come out with their new prospectus before I can compare those.

June 2009 CIE A-Levels
TARC had 23 students with at least 3As. I have no idea the number of students for CAL in TARC so I can't estimate how is that to their total CAL student body.
Taylor's had 40% with at least 3As
INTI has 20% with at least 3As
Sunway has 27% with at least 3As.

I do agree that this shows that they have good students and not necessarily good lecturers though I just want to point that they do have a good track record.
I also can't speak for other places since I don't have a clear view of things are somewhere else, but the institution can also assist you in a way in Taylor's they always invite speakers,have certain activities in coaching you to produce the most suitable ways to do the things like writing your personal statement and how to be in interviews etc. other than you getting good exam results to help your chances better. It also helps in a way when there's more people with similar goals as you around.

also this thread was from way back in 2008 and looking at the TS's profile, it has also been a while since he last went on lowyat so I doubt he can answer why he only wants to compare between Taylor's and Methodist. ^^"

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QUOTE(Hikari0307 @ Dec 7 2010, 02:24 AM)
also this thread was from way back in 2008 and looking at the TS's profile, it has also been a while since he last went on lowyat so I doubt he can answer why he only wants to compare between Taylor's and Methodist. ^^"
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LOL I didn't realise that.

 

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