hello all.y nephew is planning to do the university of london LLB external degree soon. i wish to ask, is there any where that i can view the sample degree award or cert? i hope some friends will help here.

thanks in advance. thanks

jhong,

many thanks for your reply. truly appreciate your link. thanks and good evening.

hello all. i wish to ask a personal question and hope uta the right place to do so:
Q: is there a way to assess the authenticity of a LLB (hons) degree in Law of the Uni Of London external programme? i have seen one but the degree award/ cert does not come with any serial number?

i hope some friends here can help me, please. it is important to me. please advise. thanks in advance. TQ

If it's fake, they can always fake it with a serial number. The only way is to confirm with UOL.

Or try asking for the academic transcript. Though I bet even that can be faked.

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Thanks for your advice. yes, the cert can be easily faked. i will try contact UOL and hope i can get some insight.
thanks again friend.

yes. i had a photo of the real cert from UOL and it has a colorless common seal in the MIDDLE of the cert. other than this, there are nothing else as i would have expected, such as the serial number. so sad to see this!!!

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Added on May 13, 2012, 12:39 pmyes sir. common seal and transcript can be easily faked at printer shops.

the true story of mine:-
one senior lecturer cum ceo produced his photocopy of UOL LLB(hons) third class cert. i cant see the common seal mark on it. his used his arrogance and bullying style to sack many great lecturers within few months of his appointment. so sad. UOL replied to me that they would not help to verify anything other than being able to verify a student status (only with authorisation). UOL was not willing to sell me a copy of the passed list for certain years.

i was wondering if i could access UOL via alumni status to view the pass list. or, is there the pass list of students in the UOL member site? but i need a password to enter for viewing.

so sad. it took us years just to obtain a degree and years for a master and years to become a professional. now, others can simply print a cert at ease.

please, any friends here can advise me on how to further vet a LLB external degree award? please, i need help. i might be losing my job too. please.
thanks to all for reading.


This post has been edited by mikehwy: May 13 2012, 12:39 PM

hello, is there a reason for 'firing'? although i have heard much about the 3rd class (exam marks 44-49) but it is still considered as a 'valid' degree, am i right? so sorry for asking this question as i am in a finance field.

i dare not reveal the exact location of the college as i have to abide by my professional code of ethics. yes, i am in a dilemma now. still, i am angry for others being so easily faking their qualifications, and making me such a bloody fool for spending over 10 years overseas in obtaining my papers. sigh .... i am still searchiung for authorities for takoing actions.

thanks again for all who had replied.

thank you.

yes sir, i fully agreed with you here. this lecturer has been faking student records and giving out pass grades to those who have not even attended the classes, for his personal financial gain, and brining his ceo shop outside for personal uses. there is a criminal breach of trust, human trafficking and alteration of academic records. i believe this is called 'frauds'?

i have not been sleeping well for a while after getting the hard evidence.

i considered an old man myself, and at times i felt tired about all these. retreating is one of my options now. needing a good holiday.

thanks to all who are reading my concern.

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Added on May 13, 2012, 5:12 pmoh yes, i forgot another issue. This person also claimed that he had a Degree in Economics from Universiti Malaya. I have highly reliable sources that claimed that he was terminated after year 1 of his strudy at Universiti Malaya.

thisngs are going really wrong here.

so sorry for lashing out my frustration. sorry ...

This post has been edited by mikehwy: May 13 2012, 05:12 PM

I have a request and I hope it i not too much to ask: can any friends here post me the LLB Degree in Law, UOL pass list of students for years 1995 and 1996 please? I truly appreciate for a reply.
Thank you very much. Thanks

Hi jhong,
many thanks for your reply. that person claimed he took it via self-study but we shall vet it further given an opportunity. so i guess there was no such 'local' college to help in identifying the cert.

do ou mean that an ex student could not gain entry into the UOL web site for viewing the pass list? my CIMA site would show the list those days.

what we saw was a photocopy of the third class award. i was told that a photocopy would not capture the water mark nor hologram, am i right? it looks futile at this stage. sigh ...

thanks pal. thank you.

This is the reply that i have received after requeting to purchase a pass list (1995/6): -


Dear Sir/Madam

Students records and passlists are not available to the public.

Unless you would like a verification of a student, we can do this but only with authorisation.



Kind regards

Mrs S. Deen-Yasein
Senior Transcripts Officer, Transcripts Office
University of London International Programmes
Stewart House | 32 Russell Square | London WC1B 5DN | United Kingdom
Tel: +44 (0)20 7862 8549 Fax: +44 (0)20 7862 8300
Web: www.londoninternational.ac.uk

[quote=schizophrenic,May 14 2012, 01:19 PM]
Mate,

They will never (at least I hope that is the case) sell you their student record or pass list. Do note the existence of the Data Protection Act 1998. Mid this year, Malaysia will be the same after the coming into force of the Personal Data Protection Act 2010.

In any event, did you ask them about the standard University procedure for prospective employers to verify the authenticity of a particular qualification purportedly obtained by a particular individual from UOL?

Cheers!

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Hello there. its a good advise and i will email to them again about any standard procedure in verifying the papers. thanks.

i was wondering if there us any other way to vet the cert?

thanks.

thank you my dear friend for your hint. tq

very useful link, thank you Sir for your good effort. thanks

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Added on June 20, 2012, 11:01 pm[quote=schizophrenic,May 15 2012, 11:40 PM]
The last time I vetted a degree cert, we actually wrote to the Uni enclosing a photocopy of the cert and requested for a confirmation.

This was for a university in India.

Dear Sir,

what would be the consequence if the cert is vetted as non-genuine (faked)? would it simply be warning and removal of a person's managerial position by the local educaiton auhtority? will there be any kind of criminal/deception/fraudulent charges for the person as well?

will forumers please advise me.

thanking in advance.

This post has been edited by mikehwy: Jun 20 2012, 11:04 PM

[quote=schizophrenic,Jun 15 2012, 02:44 AM]http://www.lpqb.org.my/

New site launched. :-)

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Heartful thanks to you sir for the very useful link for initiation of my search.

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Added on September 12, 2012, 10:36 pm[quote=schizophrenic,May 14 2012, 01:19 PM]Mate,

They will never (at least I hope that is the case) sell you their student record or pass list. Do note the existence of the Data Protection Act 1998. Mid this year, Malaysia will be the same after the coming into force of the Personal Data Protection Act 2010.

In any event, did you ask them about the standard University procedure for prospective employers to verify the authenticity of a particular qualification purportedly obtained by a particular individual from UOL?

Cheers!

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Yes sir, i did follow this through and got some tips. Thanks

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Added on September 12, 2012, 10:38 pm[quote=jhong,May 13 2012, 09:42 PM]I'm sure there are some other lecturers in the college could help you with this? There are quite a number of lecturers are UoL graduates as well.

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Yes sir. I searched and got some tips from there. Thanks.

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Added on September 12, 2012, 10:40 pmIf it's fake, they can always fake it with a serial number. The only way is to confirm with UOL.

Or try asking for the academic transcript. Though I bet even that can be faked.

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Yes sir, i went through with UoL and the Head of Transcript had been helpful. Got what i needed. Thanks!

Big Thank You to all who have read and replied to my earlier posts relating to potential forgery of LLB and Economics Degree certs.

Hard evidence was received, and CEO fired. Too bad that the board did not wish to pursue charges under penal codes and criminal frauds. No further actions on the ceo's use of forged documents in importing foreign students and taking bribes for doing so. This is the hard fact of life, and the case is considered closed.

I wish to say 'thank you' to everyone here. Thank you.

This post has been edited by mikehwy: Sep 12 2012, 10:50 PM