anyone currently doing CLP in ATC??
or anyone who has already finished CLP in ATC??
just want to ask
how is the teaching there?

Just have a doubt and would like to ask..since that MUFY is a australian pre u which quite similar with ausmat and sam, does it recognized by malaysian bar as well ?

err..... previously..... my plan was do law degree twinning program at help( i was told that clp is very hard to pass, but still i refused to change my mind..)...... thn ltr, i was told, again ,  that CLP is damn hard to pass(some ppl gave up in the half way) and its better to get into local U or MMU ,so that i will be exempted from the CLP....................... besides, the school fees in UK is going to raise by 3 times and i dont wish to give that much of burden to my parents........

thats why i asked whether i can go to local U with my A levels............ but since its impossible, may i know is MMU a good college to study law? is it true the law degree graduate from MMU dont meet the requirement to do master in law?

thanks for the previous reply.............and thanks in advance for the reply.......... cheer and have a nice day.......

errrrr....... by saying that, meaning even if u score lets say 90 marks, u may still fail IF u are out of the 30% quota??

yeap..... thats why im in dilemma.... either to choose top notch college to do my law or  the CLP exemption college........

huh?! must possess either A levels / STPM thn only can sit for the CLP? meaning if their CLP exemption license will over this year, then all the students that straight took their foundation after SPM cant practise?

yeah.... if they dont meet the requirement for me to do my master...... they are definitely not my choice........

I have a few guidelines for those students who still lost their way in choosing whether study in mmu or overseas for law.

For those brilliant and rich students, I would recommend you to choose overseas because mmu cannot provide the standard of education u expected. U should do ur own research on the malaysian law firm to find out which qualification of lawyer they will recruit and u will understand why i recommend you to study in overseas.

For those who not affordable for overseas, u should choose mmu unless u can enter into local uni because mmu is exempted from clp exam. Pls be aware that only around 30% passing rate for clp exam each year. If compare to local uni, clp is much diffficult to pass. Further, mmu is the only private institution which obtained clp exemption. If u wan to try for UOL, u may proceed but provided u must be a smart student because UOL really tough compare to other course.

I personally have 2 years experience study in mmu but nevertheless I had transferred to other college due to poor quality of the lecturers. HELP or INTI college is a best choice for you if u prepared to study in UK because their UK degree transfer programmes are recognised by the uni in UK to enter as second year student. These universities also recognised by Singapore. Pls bear in mind that none of a local university Malaysia recognised by Singapore.

If u graduate from UK, u can opt to study for barrister (BPTC) or solicitor(LPC) which these two professions are entitled u to practise in Malaysia without go through the CLP. U can always come back to sit for ur CLP if u wan so. In addition, u can also sit for Bar exam in Singapore(provided ur uni recognised by Singapore) to practise in Singapore. Those who graduate from Local university can only practise in Malaysia.

I hope that these guidelines will assist u in choosing ur uni to pursue ur LLB. Please dont hesitate to ask me if u got any doubt on my opinion.

Ya, it's correct that there's no guarantee on the clp exemption in mmu and this is one of the reason y i leave mmu.

FYI, only some BPTC institutions provider required 2.1 to study for BPTC but so far University of Manchester has guarantee me that even I graduate with second lower, I will be offerred a seat in BPP law school for BPTC. So, better I sit for BPTC rather than CLP.

I'm still doubt in this issue but so far I saw a few blog or online forum stated that can apply for exemption from minister of law and some of them have even successfully did so. So, anyone has success example that can share with me as to resolve my doubt?

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Added on June 10, 2011, 6:16 pm
The last I know, MMU wasn't the only one getting exemption from CLP. I remember there are the other two unis getting along with MMU but MMU get the stick most of the time mainly due to it being a private institute.

Anyway, good question about why still so many fellow people wanna make their life so difficult to opt for UoL when MMU has a CLP exemption.

I think that's down to individual. Ask yourself and be frank, can you make it for CLP? The CLP exemption thingy comes handy when you know you cant make it. And let's be frank, not everyone has a good command of English. When you opt for UOL and your papers being marked by some foreigner who dont even understand your rojak english, then MMU seems to be a perfect choice eh?

The only downside is that, the exemption need to be reviewed and you cant work outside Malaysia.

These universities also recognised by Singapore. Pls bear in mind that none of a local university Malaysia recognised by Singapore.

If u graduate from UK, u can opt to study for barrister (BPTC) or solicitor(LPC) which these two professions are entitled u to practise in Malaysia without go through the CLP. U can always come back to sit for ur CLP if u wan so. In addition, u can also sit for Bar exam in Singapore(provided ur uni recognised by Singapore) to practise in Singapore. Those who graduate from Local university can only practise in Malaysia.
i beg to differ, Singapore does recognize some of our Local Uni such as UM.

I can see where you are coming from. Yes, no doubt, there is no guarantee that the exemption will last. The current exemption last until this year and recently, they just reviewed it again. Whether they get the new exemption again, we will see in few months time. If they got it, then great, they just extended the exemption for another couple of years. If not, then I think the course structure they offered will be changed with the course reverting back to 3 years since the final year of the course is basically the CLP thingy.

As for your claim that the whole course might not even eligible to sit for CLP, I think that's a little exaggerate. Why? Because the way I see it is that since the first batch of mmu law graduates already been called to bar, I think it more or less signify that the course itself is recognized by bar council. At least, that's how I think it works.

Anyway, every legal route is difficult. No easy path when you decided you wanna pick the legal field. For me, I would suggest you all to take UoL. Stop worrying about the CLP first because at the end of the day, if you cant practice, you can still work as other profession in other fields. That UoL cert allows you to work overseas too.Something local uni cant offer you.(excluding UM )

Arh... Now I see your point. Yes, the requirement to sit for CLP is that you must at least have STPM or A Level. So, it does carry a certain risks if they didnt get the exemption and you are going up there through foundation they offered. Meantime, it's safe for those entering MMU law using A Level/STPM even if they dont get the exemption. At least they can sit for the CLP.
People always say stop counting the chicken before they hatch. Guess it applies here. Its better if we stay focus on what happens now than the future. Anything can change as time passes. You might not get what you expected at the end of the day. 

R u sure? If u look carefully on that website, u will realise that even UM, Singapore also not recognised nowadays. Only those who commenced study in UM before 1st January 1994, then only they will recognise. In other words, for student who studying in UM today is actually not recognised by Singapore. Therefore, none of a local university Malaysia is recognised by Singapore at now.

why do you want to become a lawyer? There are soo mmmmany nowadays that the professionalism of the profession is in question.
Conveyancing lawyers are a cut throat breed, and basically in the business of selling paper

just too many.

any law graduates from the Multimedia Uni? can you imagine the quality of these graduates? What business has Multimedia Uni have in grading law subjects? Are the lecturers qualified, really??

This goes for all other 'new' malaysian law universities churning out 'simple' law graduates. Quantity and not quality!

last time 1000++ now i think can get 2000++,depends to your law firm...

Ok here's  the thing, I got BBC for my A levels and now Im going to UK to study law. Not a top university but nonetheless an LLB degree. So after 3 years and getting my LLB degree, I will be taking BVC because the university Im going to isnt recognised for CLP.

My question is this, after passing my BVC, I will be looking to get pupiliage. Do I get that from UK or Malaysia? And will my job prospects suffer from a lesser university? ( My dad is a lawyer by the way and I aspire to take over from him ) Will going to a lesser university be a problem then? I should think not

I don't quite understand the last paragraph. You said your unsure if "they" will accept, who's "they" ? and also, I do have A level qualification, just not a very good one. So, your suggestion to me, is to take BVC in UK, then come back and get my pupiliage then go to my dad's firm to work?

Would you suggest then for me to do my degree locally? such as BAC? What are the pros and cons of doing it in UK instead of locally?