Wow, how many certs you grabbing? I think by the time you are practicing as lawyer, you would probably late twenties.

By the way, Merry Christmas to everyone in legal field. Cheers

Obviously the big difference is the Exemption thingy. With MMU, you get exempted from taking CLP.

In job prospect I would say 3+0 is better since that cert allows you to work oversea in which cert you get from MMU probably only allow you to practice as a lawyer in local.

Do note that if you are taking MMU law, I would advise you not to take the foundation but something else. As far as I am concern, the exemption isn't permanent and subject to review. Thus, it's safer route if you pick A Level/ STPM or any of the equivalent because in case the exemption is removed, you would still be able to take CLP.

To sit for CLP, the requirement is STPM or equivalent.

UOL because the LLB offered by Brickfields (3+0) is the external degree under University of London (UOL)

From the updates I get, they just got their review passed on recently with the graduates only need to complete a training programme to obtain a Certificate of Completion.

However, such exemption is subject to review 2 years later which is why the person in charge told you that the exemption is not guaranteed.

No problem. Welcome to the legal field and enjoy your time in col/uni. You wont have that much after working.

How do you define yourself? A hardworking and dedicated student who gives his all or someone who is decent but not really hardworking.

If you are the former, CLP wouldn't be a problem for you. Go for UoL
If you are the latter, advisable, pick the local route.

The UoL route:
For the UOL route, you have Few choices:
Twin or External

But you must take A Level for that.

Then you can choose in between HELP, ATC, BAC etc for your courses, be it external or twinning.

Guaranteed entry as long as you fulfil the requirements.

Pro: Cert internationally recognized with better job prospect overseas.
Cons: No tips whatsoever.Study everything, digest and wish for luck for the question to come out.

The Local Uni route:
The local uni route is like a striking a toto. Not guaranteed with thousands fighting for limited places. Matriculation, STPM and ops you might just end up getting your second choice course instead of law. What a waste of time.

Plus, recognization in international level is terrible...at least I think so. Even UM law is not recognized in Singapore. How terrible is that?

Pro: No CLP, probably comes with tipsfrom some lecturers.
Cons: Job prospect overseas LIMITED.

As for MMU,

CLP exempted, true. But subject to review every 2 years.

It is also true that foundation is not eligible for CLP sitting. Advisible take STPM/A Level if you can.

My personal advise to you is, pick what suits you best.
If you are one looking for life at campus, entertainment, etc, forget UOL, go for local uni. You might just do well here.

If you are one looking for job overseas, clearly UOL is the smarter choice.

At the end of the day, ask yourself. What you want?

It's 3 years in Malaysia.As stated, it's external programme , so all 3 years will be done in Malaysia.

Take MBA or something? Surely they will accept you even if it's malaysia cert that isn't recognize anywhere else

It meets the basic requirement of all passes to enter for LLB. Cant answer you whether if it's ok for such result to take up law. Reading law requires one to put in a lot of efforts. I might be wrong but judging by your A level result, I must say you didn't put in enough effort?

If you cant cope well with degree, you have no hope of passing CLP. So this is the part you have to consider.


As for your question of which colleges/universities good for law, it depends on which type of programme you doing. External or twinning?

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Added on February 1, 2012, 9:36 pmWhen I mention "internationaly recognize" I meant to point to the fact that you can work in other countries other than Malaysia. This does include Singapore.

List of approved universities by Singapore Bar:


And yes, answering your question, with local university cert, you certainly cant practice in Singapore.

True that their syllabus are almost the same as I heard of. However, I cant answer you whether you will be getting better job prospect with different cert from these two universities because I am not an employer myself.

Anyway, results come secondary when it comes to getting a job. There is something more important than result and it's you. We clearly dont need nerds who memorize everything and score in every exam but cant do a thing in real life. Personality and capability stand out more if you ask me.

Well your friend is half right then. They got their exemption renewed this year. However, this is not permanent. The exemption is subjected to another review every 2 years. Your friend might be a bit misleading here because it is not "confirmed exempted" because when it is "confirmed exempted" it's permanent exemption and this isn't.

So, did you come up with any plan now? Go for UoL or local universities?

This post has been edited by solstice818: Feb 1 2012, 09:36 PM

BAC and ATC both offer good external LLB from UOL. You might wanna pay them a visit. After graduating, take CLP papers and you can practice. Comes with few intakes a year.

For private university, you can opt for MMU which also accept A Level as one of the entry to LLB they offer. CLP exempted but subject to review. Only one intake a year which is june.

Not sure in this. Last I heard they only offer twinning, 1+2, 2+1... You can call and confirm

You can take SPM BM paper but I am not sure of the procedure. Can go ask schools around your area.

As for your questions of BAC, ATC etc, they are not mentioned but they are recognized

The lan subject BM is not recognized as valid BM paper to sit for CLP exam I am afraid...It's nothing more than a university subject. To sit for CLP, must get credit in SPM level for BM paper.

You should pay both colleges a visit and decide yourself. The last time I studied there, ATC was pretty good. That was before I graduated though. Think things shaken up a bit.

Dont retake AS. Just straight take AL. Then it will be considered as one seating.

If I am not mistaken, it should be that way. You can confirm with your college in this matter after all I took my A Level some times back and things might have changed.

I heard that from my colleague before that they only accept NUS graduates but their own bar council website state otherwise.

Nah, best student in Malaysia is enough to entitle to the scholarship. It's hard to get though.

They are from different years I guess cos I remember it was one person getting it every single year. Might be wrong though since I haven't keep in touch with these things for ages.

Call them up and check cos what we telling you here might be different of the real price since most of us have already enrolled/graduated and they might have change the price now....

Others as in local uni? That's because they include subjects/ papers that exempted you from CLP.

While UoL graduates are required to sit for CLP/ go for UK bar before being able to be called to bar.