problem questions? were there problem questions in PL?

@ jhong

relax la. it's your first class. if u still find it difficult when you've finished your syllabus in march, then u are 'entitled' to get worried. i found PL easy...

i've never understood the repercussions of not completing LAN papers...

but yea, i reckon the book may help, but if it is not a required purchase by the college, maybe it has its own notes and stuff.

oh ok. i didnt do electoral.

and subject matter for PL is quite co related, tho the questions may not be all the time. i remembered my year had a question which mixed SOP and rule of law. i was like "HUH? for a few mins" but i did it anyway. i think they mix it here and there. but not always. i cant really remember much, but when i was doing PL, i was worried that they might mix major topics in questions because of the links that each topic has with another. and they did it with that sop ques for my year. im sure other years have their own weird mixtures...

well, if u don't have a stpm or equivalent qualification, you cant join the bar. If u decide to further do the graduate entry programme, i assume with UOL, then u are definitely heading the wrong way, because graduate entry LLBs are not recognised for bar admission purposes

'3.1 The law degree SHALL contain a minimum of 12 substantive law subjects,'

Therefore, your two MAIN options are:
a) do the stpm or an equivalent qual of your choice, do a full LLB, do the CLP

b) do a graduate entry qual, do the uk bar

yeah sure, a levels would be a good idea. it's really up to you to weigh your options, if you dun want to practice, a pre u prog will indeed do u no harm except cost u a few ks and time...

...and yes reading law is fun. exams....not so much! there are quite a number of people i personally know who have done the llb as a secondary degree, it is a good programme to stir the mind and develop analytical skills. Your inquisitive persona will definitely appreciate such a course, but it is important that u head to the right college. But i do hope you like to read, because u do need to read quite a bit if u intend to do well. Occasionally u'll encounter a very dry topic, i do think there are quite a number of topics among the subjects that are so. Some ppl however find the transition hard if they're first qualification is very technical. But with due diligence, it shouldn't be a problem...

haha...magna carta like seriously. i have no idea what it is...!! I just asked around and the 11 law graduates that i asked were like "huh"! We've heard of it, but cant described it or refer you to good reference. Not in my syallbus. purely for interest sake... yahoo or google may be a good starting point...hope u find what you're looking for...!

don't worry about it...just do what u have to do. criminal law is bulky for intermediate stds...just identify the issues in problem questions and argue and argue....besides you only really need to pass unless you are eligible to try for kings then good luck

haha...good luck yea! i've got juris, then succession as well...then EU the next day...haha three days in a row!


there's no 'hardest' subject, it's subjective...

yes i prepared for an FP question. it's quite straightforward...and i think for it, speed of writing will determine whether u can do well or not, because u really gotta argue on the facts and the situations as to whether each party deserves the the money...know as much case law as possible lor...what to do...but i think based on the statute itself and the sections..will allow u to pass...case laws will help u score...speed of writing will help u get an A for that question....

no. you have to do the whole three years locally. it is not a twinning programme, but an external degree. exception is if u get good grades in intermediate you can apply for Queen Mary for entry into Year 2. Some stories of ppl applying for Kings directly after inter as well, but im not sure. View website for details.

yes u must get all Bs to qualify for a place in queen's via uol ext.

omfg!! you're right...

btw, good luck for succession...

This post has been edited by alsree786: May 13 2009, 08:51 PM

aiyah, dun think shud talk about the papers la...been a bad year so far, worse set of exams i have ever taken. have taken 3 acca papers in a row before, but 3 law exams are a whole new level of bulk and difficulty....crazy schedule!

that would be a bonus question. public law was fun. actually uol llb is not hard to pass or that hard to get a 2:2 so long as u study well enough and the TIMETABLE WORKS IN YOUR FAVOUR!


wow seriously...statute books for popular papers sell out by feb or march. if i had one i'll sell it to you for a hell of a premium, and buy a blackberry

This post has been edited by alsree786: May 16 2009, 09:24 AM

well, as xziled says it depends. The legal field, somewhat like with doctors, very much depends on the individual itself. Lawyers are specifically identified, so the better you are, the better you're reputation, the more clients you will have, the higher your fees and the more contracts you can get. Chambering students are like lil pets, so you get an allowance which is not much. I dunno how much, you gotta check it out yourself. But then on, you gotta show what've you got. As with any other field, if u got lubangs, then the faster you can develop and show what you can do. A friend of mine works directly under a very prominent local lawyer who anyone following news on politics would know who, so that person gets to learn very quickly and meets alot of high profile personnel. As a lawyer, there are no limits. There's no real corporate body to climb. You get paid depending on how good you are and depending on what reputation your have. Build it up from day one, and you shud be earn well enough. I know qualified lawyers who earn about RM6k to RM8k at 40 years old. I also know lawyers who earn RM25k to RM30k at 45 years old. I also know a lawyer who earns millions a year.

what are the 5 main topics in your view?

either you need to wax your ears or your friend needs to learn how to use the internet...seriously. i have been answering so many questions on LYN that people can answer on their own with a quick google search...if u ask me for opinions on this and that then yea...seriously dude...UOL EXT LLB IS AN EXTERNAL LLB PROGRAMME...IT'S CLEARLY STAED IN THE PREVIOUS POSTS SO GO READ!


edited due to error noted by schizo

This post has been edited by alsree786: May 18 2009, 10:03 PM

lesser probably in terms of practical hands on learning then yea...but in terms of subject matter or syllabus, we're more rigorously examined due to it being external exams marked by top professors ranging from unis of queen m, ucl, oxford, bristol etc

oh ok. for me if u ask me to name top 5 i would say ROL, PS, SOP, HRA and EU. out of this minimum 2 questions. Dun worry la, inter only, all u need to do is pass to get thru...hope u did 4 questions tho. if u did then im sure you'll be okay

yeah, we all will for uol llb. I'm still quite upset my timetable had three papers in a row...was damn tough. Alot of ppl complaining having two llb papers in a row, they shud try and face three. If four, i would have just jumped off a cliff...

was very difficult to do well...hope all future uol llb students dun face such a crappy timetable.

This post has been edited by alsree786: May 17 2009, 09:57 PM

it's not about finishing early man...it's about doing well! i wish i had my friend's timetable. even though it finishes on the 4th of june...more time to study and do well!