yupe, he can't do CLP, what he can do? About the A-level question, I would recommend you to go Taylors, BAC　normally they will offer you two subjects, if you are taking one year programme. HELP's A-level is unlike the other, means that you study certain topic and you go for exam, unlike the other, study everything then go exam, I would say that HELP's A-level is easier to score compare to the other.

Taking only 2 subjects for A level is quite risky.Imagine if you screw up one subject, how are you going to enroll into degree?Normally, students will take 3...In case they screw up 1, they still have another 2 which enables them to enroll in degree with no problem.

What does Para-Legal work? Does he/she does the work like clerk?

Wish to clarify 1 thing, after 9 months of chambering. One will be straight away ranked as a lawyer and works as a lawyer?

Or we need to be legal assistant etc and work for few years after the chambering before working as lawyer?

This post has been edited by dhui: Jun 15 2010, 06:23 PM

I am planning to quit BAC and go to HELP, because BAC really not good, they teach law only touch and go and let people pass, after graduate like you don't know everything in law, i rather pay 20k to learn in HELP.

More or less, but the para will be assisting the lawyers in preparation inclusive of drafting, filing documents with court, admin etc...

also depends on the firm...

Lawyers in Malaysia = A & S

Simply put, Legal Assistants are lawyers, some firms prefer the term Legal Associates...you can consider yourself a lawyer in malaysia upon admission to the Bar...

What course were u taking at BAC? DTP?

I think you are referring to Uk Transfer Degree. As compared to University of LOndon, DTP is more lenient as they do not need to cover everything.
If you were to shift to HELP, the result would be same, borrow your word ' touch and go'. Nonetheless, they are of the aim to not spoon feeding you. If you want to score, you need to do more extra works.

Big boy already, not in Primary or Secondary school. The education system is different.

Lecturer only teach us the basic, we have to go to the depth by own effort.

I am not looking for spoon feeding, but there are many important issue they dont tell us, even a change in recent law, they also didnt tell, and very funny part is you know the exam question before exam. this is they wanna give you pass easily.

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Added on June 19, 2010, 12:17 amcomparing to other college, even they touch and go, at least they give you a guidline, if a lecturer always crap CLP in class, which is irrelevant to your course, and you ask him question, he can answer you wrongly, this is sucked, those from alvl are not liking the lecturers. sigh.

This post has been edited by stevelim90: Jun 19 2010, 12:17 AM

what course are you doing at BAC? not sure whether you've stated this before...apologise if you have. DTP I presume.

I know for a fact that for a certain law prog, the BAC lecturers do give their students the exam questions beforehand.

hey guys
i have a qs.
i am an LLB grad. now hesistating if i should take a break fr0m studies, and work? or continue with CLP
and i was wondering.. since i am not really a lawyer material, should i skip CLP and move on to LLM instead (which is something i that i will do in hopeful near future)...
but ppl around me keep saying that it;s a waste for not doing clp after llb. on the other hand, clp is tough cookie and i dunno if i will do well in it and dun wanna waste another yr.
pls gimme yr 2cents. thanks

My question would center around what career do u intend to pursue/job scope you're aiming for/what do you like to do...

(a)Lecturer's problem
Firstly, i can tell you, some lecturers do like to chit chat and talk nothing relevant in the class though i have not experienced any but i heard a lot from my friends.
Hmmm, Lecturers crapping CLP in class? thats interesting. Who is that?

lol...Even Taylors law school, i know one lecturer teaching Public law and Common Law Reasoning, he gives everything they need and read from the note.( is that the so called 'guideline'?His favourite is not teaching law but a motivational talk instead.

Every schools have got good and bad lecturers. Depending on how you interpret and whats a 'good' lecturer in your mind. For me, a good lecturer can make law as a lively subject. A Professor in Uni of Reading may know many thing in and out for law, but he may not be a good lecturer as in the way he presents leads us to the mindset that law is boring.

Regardless, undeniably, BAC has some lecturers which is just not up to the par in my view but not much?( Who am i to judge them right?)Another thing, in relation with lecturer teaching or answering the wrong thing, just tell them ! As i did last time but the lecturer does not seem to be liking me.I experienced once last year, where it was an unforgivable mistake. Anyway, he has now improved and i think he is now doing great, or at least, better.

(b) Guideline?

Are you saying, in BAC, they didnt give you a guideline? Ermm, as for me, my lecturers do give us guideline which i dislike it. Means we are following them and we are on the right track? This makes law such a dull and dry course ! To a certain extent if i really lost, i will open my mouth and ask for 'guideline'.

Without a doubt,to my mind, spoon feeding is almost a culture in Malaysia. Be it ATC, BAC, KDU, Taylors or HELP, depending on whats spoon feeding to you.
In UK, you will also notice the lecturers will not be teaching everything but whatever is covered in your exams too. Of course, no Q and A. That doesnt mean they aiming you to only pass, right? Same goes to what happened to you, you can stand out of the crowd. You do not need to follow the so called Q&A ( just get to know what topic is likely to come out is more than sufficient).

If you asked those academicians from Northumbria, Cardiff, Abersywyth and so on, you will be surprised whats their reaction when they realised we actually have 3 hours per lecture. For them, this is spoon feeding.

Do it your own way. I did it for my first year and so can you. But i agree with you, they need to improve. Giving out questions is definitely not the way. I have also told the management. Hopefully they will do something about it especially now they having more UK universities entering in partnership with them. In order to achieve a higher standard, scrutiny process is needed instead of just merely to pass students. That culture should not even be in existence.

P/S:I attended Prof. Wayne Morrison lectures and he is of the opinion that, BAC students are more creative as compared to others.Maybe thats the effect of not giving 'guidelines'? We as a student,law student, should have done research on our own. The lecturers know about those recent development in law but they might not have told us. I once read some recent developments, and i went on to ask them, you will be surprise they know it more than i have found with their own opinion and analysis. They are happy with us doing more researches.

This post has been edited by jhong: Jun 20 2010, 05:13 PM

i'm planning on reading law at HELP academy..I got a question...what subjects do i take for A levels law..not sure at all..got maths accounts? or is it different from A levels arts...will appreciate any answers.

If you are of the intention to read law, any subjects in A-levels will do perfectly fine as you need only two principle passes.
You can even take all the science subjects but pursue your law degree at latter time.

Respect, coz I could never stay awake during his lecture. Went for 1, and that was enough...that was the first and last time i attended a lecture from the uni of london ext lecturers. but of course, the important bits were conveyed to me via my goodie friends who did go...mainly an implied tip here and there!


As explained by jhong above. Any combination is fine. Recommended to take at least three subjects in which you either have an interest in or you feel that you can score.

so just to clarify law is a subject of it's own rite?so i could still pursue a carreer in law by taking physics biology maths and law for A levels?..tx for the prompt replies guys

yes u may. I myself took Chemistry, Biology, Maths (and General Paper) at A levels...

hmm tx for the reassurance..general paper is LAN rite?plus is law a subject of it's own in A level just like chemistry,bio...last question..will there be like any disadvanteges as compared to like law schools like BAC.it's purely law for the whole course if i'm not mistaken..

Well, i was feeling drowsy while listen to his lecture and he was funny also. No choice, i had to concentrate and focus as my friends need me to dictate down whatever is necessary for them ( so called - hidden tips) ....

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Added on June 24, 2010, 12:26 amThere is no need for you to take comparison as to whether a 'law school' like BAC might have done better or not.
A pre-U is what you need to be considered on. To answer your question, law itself is an independent subject like biology.
It may help as in you may get an overview on how law subject is or a good foundation.
However, its never too late for you get used to law subjects in your intermediate/first year.
So, just go ahead and take whatever subjects which you think you can score better. The grade is important.

This post has been edited by jhong: Jun 24 2010, 12:26 AM