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edennature
post Sep 9 2009, 05:54 PM

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doing london degree would be nice after graduate..do we need spend a lot of time to study LLB external event hough we have LLB degree already?


Added on September 10, 2009, 4:42 pmhow many alumni of lincoln inn in malaysia and also inner temple?

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QUOTE(edennature @ Sep 9 2009, 09:54 AM)
doing london degree would be nice after graduate..do we need spend a lot of time to study LLB external event hough we have LLB degree already?


Added on September 10, 2009, 4:42 pmhow many alumni of lincoln inn in malaysia and also inner temple?
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Just to let you know, they are technically not an alumni. It is a term that I respectfully submit was adopted by mistake.

They are all lifelong members of their respective inn. They are no longer part of the inn once they are disbarred and their names removed from the register/roll of barristers.

:-)
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post Sep 11 2009, 06:00 PM

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which inn of court has the highest number of member?do you recommend for uol external or twinning/transfer degree?which one is better?any discrimination against UOL degree from others?


Added on September 12, 2009, 5:28 pmcan i join one of the inns of court even though i only do not take bvc?

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post Sep 14 2009, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(edennature @ Sep 11 2009, 06:00 PM)
which inn of court has the highest number of member?do you recommend for uol external or twinning/transfer degree?which one is better?any discrimination against UOL degree from others?


Added on September 12, 2009, 5:28 pmcan i join one of the inns of court even though i only do not take bvc?
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Lincolns Inn -> traditionally more asians
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post Sep 14 2009, 04:35 PM

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i heard that there is discrimination towards asians in inner/middle temple


Added on September 15, 2009, 6:04 pmuol external or twinning/transfer programme which one better?i wish to do bvc

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post Sep 15 2009, 11:32 PM

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not sure if this question has been posted.

What subjects usually Law students study?
Do they have to read a lot of history books?
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post Sep 16 2009, 01:16 PM

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no but some universities in uk prefer prospective law students to take history in a-level.There is a wide range of subjects for law students to choose from.The compulsory subjects are english legal system,tort,public,contract,criminal law,land law,equity and trusts
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post Sep 16 2009, 02:25 PM

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hello.is that vry hard to enter lincoln's inn?wat are the steps to apply for it?
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post Sep 16 2009, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(edennature @ Sep 11 2009, 10:00 AM)
which inn of court has the highest number of member?do you recommend for uol external or twinning/transfer degree?which one is better?any discrimination against UOL degree from others?


Added on September 12, 2009, 5:28 pmcan i join one of the inns of court even though i only do not take bvc?
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Yes you can join one of them. But if you do not complete your BVC and the required Qualifying Sessions, you'll always be a student member of the Inn.

Also, check their requirements. You will have to show them evidence that you've completed a degree in law or pursuing one now.


Added on September 16, 2009, 4:22 pm
QUOTE(edennature @ Sep 11 2009, 10:00 AM)
which inn of court has the highest number of member?do you recommend for uol external or twinning/transfer degree?which one is better?any discrimination against UOL degree from others?


Added on September 12, 2009, 5:28 pmcan i join one of the inns of court even though i only do not take bvc?
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Lincoln's inn is the largest.
A lot of Asians.

There isn't any inn that is better than the other. They are all the same. Different people join different inns for different reasons.

It doesn't matter which programme are you doing because when you're there, you're just a student member, unless you've been called to the bar.

If you're afraid of being discriminated then you should be afraid of those 1st class from oxbridge. Then again, within the Inn itself, chances are that you won't feel any discrimination.


Added on September 16, 2009, 4:23 pm
QUOTE(edennature @ Sep 14 2009, 08:35 AM)
i heard that there is discrimination towards asians in inner/middle temple


Added on September 15, 2009, 6:04 pmuol external or twinning/transfer programme which one better?i wish to do bvc
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It is up to the University itself.
:-)

At this stage, don't worry so much about this.

You'll have other things to worry about regarding the proposed BPTC.


Added on September 16, 2009, 4:25 pm
QUOTE(edennature @ Sep 14 2009, 08:35 AM)
i heard that there is discrimination towards asians in inner/middle temple


Added on September 15, 2009, 6:04 pmuol external or twinning/transfer programme which one better?i wish to do bvc
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You are mistaken about the discrimination in inner/middle towards asians.


Added on September 16, 2009, 4:27 pm
QUOTE(neuroneuster @ Sep 15 2009, 03:32 PM)
not sure if this question has been posted.

What subjects usually Law students study?
Do they have to read a lot of history books?
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The 1st question has been answered.
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Those are the core subjects that every law student will have to go through.

No, they do not have to read a lot of history books.


Added on September 16, 2009, 4:29 pm
QUOTE(minshuen @ Sep 16 2009, 06:25 AM)
hello.is that vry hard to enter lincoln's inn?wat are the steps to apply for it?
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No it is not. It is the same for all 4 Inns.

http://www.lincolnsinn.org.uk/

Apply directly to them by following the instructions from the application form.

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post Sep 16 2009, 05:10 PM

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perhaps it is not easy to take BPTC in future


Added on September 16, 2009, 5:40 pmwhat will be tested in bar aptitude test?

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post Sep 17 2009, 11:49 AM

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erm...i would like to ask lincoln's inn is an university too right?after taking stpm/a lvl,i can apply for it right?
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post Sep 17 2009, 03:21 PM

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terribly wrong..you google lincoln inn and look through wikipedia.But there is a university called Lincoln University in nz
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post Sep 17 2009, 07:40 PM

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QUOTE(minshuen @ Sep 17 2009, 03:49 AM)
erm...i would like to ask lincoln's inn is an university too right?after taking stpm/a lvl,i can apply for it right?
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As answered above, it is not even close, though the degree of the utter bar awarded by lincoln's inn is recognised as equivalent to a postgrad qualification from an accredited institution.

Anyway, do check out http://owl.english.purdue.edu/owl/resource/540/01/

on your usage on 'an'. It might help. :-)

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post Sep 17 2009, 08:38 PM

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haha.sorry,my grammar really suck.
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post Sep 18 2009, 02:58 PM

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Lincoln's Inn-lots of international students,has the highest number of members,snobbish,beautiful garden,parks

Gray's Inn-most traditional,smallest number of members

Middle temple-most sociable,friendly,historical place

inner temple-medium,numerous strong arts societies,its coat of arm is considered the best among others

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post Sep 18 2009, 09:02 PM

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erm..not really understand what those four inns are.it is because when everytime i talk about studying law,my father will just shout out a name:"lincoln's inn!"so that makes me thought that lincoln's inn is like a university that specialised for law study.can briefly explain what lincoln's inn really is?
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post Sep 18 2009, 09:12 PM

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伦敦林肯法学院。

The Honourable Society of Lincoln's Inn is one of four Inns of Court in London to which barristers of England and Wales belong and where they are called to the Bar. The other three are Middle Temple, Inner Temple and Gray's Inn.


Added on September 18, 2009, 9:14 pmFor the term 'INNS',they are generally establishments or buildings where travelers can seek lodging and, usually, food and drink. They are typically located in the country or along a highway.

The Inns of Court in London were originally ordinary inns where barristers met to do business, but have become institutions of the legal profession in England and Wales.


Added on September 18, 2009, 9:15 pmLincoln's inn is considered the most prestigious society in Uk.

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post Sep 18 2009, 10:55 PM

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QUOTE(edennature @ Sep 18 2009, 01:12 PM)
伦敦林肯法学院。

The Honourable Society of Lincoln's Inn is one of four Inns of Court in London to which barristers of England and Wales belong and where they are called to the Bar. The other three are Middle Temple, Inner Temple and Gray's Inn.


Added on September 18, 2009, 9:14 pmFor the term 'INNS',they are generally establishments or buildings where travelers can seek lodging and, usually, food and drink. They are typically located in the country or along a highway.

The Inns of Court in London were originally ordinary inns where barristers met to do business, but have become institutions of the legal profession in England and Wales.


Added on September 18, 2009, 9:15 pmLincoln's inn is considered the most prestigious society in Uk.
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Anyway, your addition on 18.9.2009 at 9.15pm is not accurate.

You'll be surprised that all 4 Inns will claim that they are the most prestigious Inn in England and Wales.
Different people join for different reasons.
A very good example is where Middle Temple call their members to the degree of the utter bar (a.k.a. degree of barrister, yes it is a title) in full court dress. You'll get to wear the whole set. Wigs, Bands and Gowns.

However, as for Lincoln;s you're strictly forbidden from wearing a wig during the call ceremony. You are permitted to wear it for photography purposes but not during the ceremony itself. The Bands and Gowns are flexible and not a requirement.

As for Inner, You are required to wear bands and gowns during the call ceremony.


These 4 Inns have their own advantages. Example, Lincolns will claim to be the largest and the most prestigious for having quite a number of prime ministers as members.
However, other inns may not have that many prime ministers as members due to their size which is relatively smaller.

Another example is where currently, Middle Templars are dominating the Supreme Court of UK.
Quite a number of them actually.
Another claim might be advanced by Middle Temple saying we have the current Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of UK being a Middle Templar.

:-)

In my opinion, the abovementioned statement is not an accurate representation of the status quo as perceived in England and Wales.

PS: I deliberately omitted the word UK because Scotland and Northern Ireland have their own requirements. In Scotland, they have stables and not Inns. :-)


Added on September 18, 2009, 11:05 pm
QUOTE(minshuen @ Sep 18 2009, 01:02 PM)
erm..not really understand what those four inns are.it is because when everytime i talk about studying law,my father will just shout out a name:"lincoln's inn!"so that makes me thought that lincoln's inn is like a university that specialised for law study.can briefly explain what lincoln's inn really is?
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Try looking for a documentary called The Barristers by The Open University/BBC

http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Barristers-DVD...53286198&sr=8-1

It is a good overview on the profession as barristers.

:-)


Added on September 18, 2009, 11:06 pm
QUOTE(minshuen @ Sep 17 2009, 12:38 PM)
haha.sorry,my grammar really suck.
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Mine suck as well. I'm just sharing the link so that you'll understand why do we use 'a' and not 'an'

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post Sep 19 2009, 08:31 AM

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if i am going to choose one, i will go for gray's inn


Added on September 19, 2009, 8:36 amif i fail to pass the Bar Aptitude test,can i take as many times as i want until i pass?


Added on September 19, 2009, 9:14 amgowns,bands and wigs only available during the call day or we have to wear them when we have BVC test and training?

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post Sep 19 2009, 01:33 PM

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o...haha,finally understand a bit.erm..could anyone tell me the pathway that have to pass through to get into lincoln's inn?

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