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 Salary range for Pharm in msia?, can anyone clarify?

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zstan
post Jul 23 2010, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(lokideangelus @ Feb 26 2010, 07:00 PM)
goodness fresh grad pay is the same as mine and even a little higher... worked for 4 years 2 in manufacturing 2 in O&G as procurement exec.. still so low... now in GLC ... sigh...
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you cannot compare like this bro.

the cost of studying pharmacy is almost the double the cost of doing engineering.

for an average to do student like me, i will be graduating with an 80k debt(from ptptn) before i can really start earning money(that's if i didn't manage to secure any scholarships).

not everything is as good as it seems. smile.gif
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post Jul 23 2010, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(`shinryu @ Jul 23 2010, 03:06 PM)
5-6k a month as a PRP? Seriously  shocking.gif ?! My senior told me that her current wages as a PRP (West Malaysia) are only 3.4k a month inclusive of allowances. If you're working in East Malaysia then maybe around 4k.

By the way how do you specialise as a pharmacist? Am interested in eventually specialising as an anti-microbial pharmacist.
Won't be surprised. The whole world and their little siblings are studying pharmacy now x_x .
Well I read somewhere on this forum that a neurosurgeon can command a monthly salary of 300k++. Should have done medicine then. FML.
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there are many master degrees offered by public unis for you to further study.

well, out of 50 neurosurgeons i think only 1 or 2 will make it to that level.

at this time of day, with the oversupplying of doctors..i doubt you can reach that level in 15 years. (if u don't know, specialising takes a pretty darn long time)
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post Jul 23 2010, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(`shinryu @ Jul 23 2010, 03:40 PM)
Either way apparently doctors on average still get paid more than pharmacists sad.gif .

Oh so the Pharmacy Board/Malaysian Pharmaceutical Society doesn't offer such courses then sad.gif . Have to shell out more money sad.gif .
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yea. plus the extra extra extra workload and stressload for that few hundred ringgit(ok maybe more) laugh.gif

but you have to be clear, being a pharmacist is not your way to riches although u can earn a decent living. if u wanna be a millionaire by 30, might as well be an entrepreneur and start your business, or go banking? hmm.gif

nope, they are just a regulatory body la. laugh.gif

if your results are good in degree, there's always high chances that you being offered to do masters for free. smile.gif
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post Jul 23 2010, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(`shinryu @ Jul 23 2010, 03:56 PM)
No I mean the RPSGB in UK do offer some courses for continuing pharmacy education (if I remember correctly) so I assumed that the Malaysian Pharmaceutical Society will do the same too but so far all I've seen under their continuing pharmacy education section are talks and seminars sad.gif .

That's what I thought too initially (about docs earning slightly more but having a lot more work) but now when I hear everyone saying that doctors earn so much more..... cry.gif. However the hell they have to go through before getting to that level...mmmm...

Lol. I just graduated la dear. Starting my pre reg this October and my results were decent but nothing fancy (no first class honours + top of the class + a bunch of other fancy awards) so I don't think I can get a scholarship to do Masters that easily >_< .
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hahahaha...which idiot will tell you the sad story of a doctor who can't even see one patient a day to make ends meet? sure all tell you the glamorous story one mar. laugh.gif

err...wait till u start to work then u will be grateful why u r a pharmacist, when u see those housemen.

for one, you will be working in full air conditioned rooms while the docs have to slog out in only-fans working environment.

u get to sit on the chair for at least 1 full hour, they don't.

want me to add? laugh.gif
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post Jul 24 2010, 12:04 AM

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QUOTE(`shinryu @ Jul 23 2010, 05:12 PM)
Lol I guess it depends on where you're working as well. My senior who's doing her pre-reg constantly b1tches about how horrible life as a PRP is while another senior who did her pre-reg in the pharmacy bureau claims that working life is super chilled and easy.

Hopefully I won't be posted to somewhere stressful XD.
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no matter won how also won be as taxing as a doctor la.

some how i find it quite boring to an extent tongue.gif

if u get posted to surgical wards then should be fun though.

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post Jul 24 2010, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(`shinryu @ Jul 24 2010, 12:19 AM)
I think for your pre reg year you'll go to all the wards on a rotation basis. After that I'm not sure but I think they'll probably assign you to a particular department. According to my senior apparently the outpatient department is the worst and the most boring, just sit there dispensing prescriptions like a robot xP .
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ahaha...yea..that's why i said it could be boring... sweat.gif surgical wards could be fun though..more cases..although i hope to get out of gov hospital as soon as possible whistling.gif


QUOTE(`shinryu @ Jul 24 2010, 01:58 PM)
Fresh grad 0_0 ? Don't you have to work for the govt for 4 years first? Or by fresh grad do you mean someone who's just finished their 4 years of government service XD ?
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yea i think he meant that..

rm10k seems alot..

but i think that's the pinnacle.. unsure.gif unsure.gif
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post Jul 24 2010, 10:12 PM

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QUOTE(`shinryu @ Jul 24 2010, 02:41 PM)
10k is enough for me :3 . As long as it's enough to raise a family w/out depending on my hubby's income then it's good enough for me. So if anything happens to my hubby (touch wood!!) or if we end up divorced (touch wood too!!) then at least my family and I can survive. For some reason I'm super paranoid of turning into those women who end up in trouble because they're too dependent on their hubby's income >_< ./off topic
Back to the topic, if you're going to do your pre reg in Malaysia I'd advise you to avoid HTAR Klang if possible. I've heard from too many people that working there is a nightmare! Crazy politics + insane workload x___x;;; .
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girl different from guy ma.

10k where got enough to kao lui, buy car, buy house, give parents? tongue.gif

u heard from who?

doctors? or pharmacists? unsure.gif
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post Jul 24 2010, 11:04 PM

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QUOTE(`shinryu @ Jul 24 2010, 10:25 PM)
Pharmacists sad.gif . Which sounds very scary lol. Well if you're contributing to all the household expenses alone then yeah it probably won't be enough XD. However I think usually the costs of the house are shared between both partners? So it's not that 'painful' XD.
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what did they complain about?

rm10000 when i come out....i think should be smaller than rm10000 now lor... sad.gif
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post Jul 25 2010, 10:08 PM

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QUOTE(`shinryu @ Jul 24 2010, 11:20 PM)
Well basically the workload is crazy (compared to other hospitals apparently) and that the office politics there are very scary >_< . That's what I heard anyway XD . HOWEVER if you go in with a positive attitude then you should be able to survive smile.gif .
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why will it be crazy? unless there are shortages of pharmacist and dispensers.
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post Jul 26 2010, 01:28 AM

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QUOTE(`shinryu @ Jul 25 2010, 10:47 PM)
Not too sure about that actually. I just heard that it's extremely busy and some say that it's haunted =___________=;;;; .

Then again if you really want to believe that it's haunted then you might as well say the same thing for ALL hospitals XD .
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really a?

cause i see those pharmacist at HKL....err..busy la..but not EXTREMELY busy.... sweat.gif
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post Jul 26 2010, 09:29 AM

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QUOTE(`shinryu @ Jul 26 2010, 02:48 AM)
Oh well I think the other hospitals aren't as bad as HTAR for some reason (which I have never thought of asking about >_>;;;). Just that most of my seniors (those who aren't at HTAR) seem to be having a breeze but the ones who are at HTAR are crying blood. When one of my classmates (who lives in Klang) posted on facebook about hoping to get HTAR a lot of seniors commented saying 'Lol you sure? We heard HTAR is horrible.' =_=;;. However no one explained why is it worse compared to all the other hospitals >_> . The most anyone has ever said is 'Crazy workload and bad politics' but no one explained why is the workload more =_=;;;. Never thought of asking either until you asked why XD .
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well, for me i would get a proper explanation on why a place is deemed good/horrible before coming to a conclusion. laugh.gif

and there are so many departments in the hospital as well. if outpatient pharmacy i would understand its very busy, but i don't think the pharmacy at general surgery, urology etc will be that busy IMO.

i do believe that bad politics exists as its very hard to gain promotion in the public sector..especially so if you are not bumiputera... laugh.gif
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post Jul 26 2010, 01:09 PM

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QUOTE(`shinryu @ Jul 26 2010, 12:25 PM)
Maybe it's busier because there are more patients overall :S ? That's the only explanation I can think of x_x . If that's the case then shouldn't bad politics exist in all government run hospitals XD ?
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erm..

i dun think the number of patients in klang can outbeat HKL or PPUM..these 2 are the GHs after all. biggrin.gif

ahaha..usually those small small ones dun have gua?

can't really comment about these, haven't seen the situation for myself before. but i do know that there are stupid supervisors who don't really care about the welfare of their subordinates though. tongue.gif
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post Apr 23 2011, 06:57 PM

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QUOTE(samquah @ Mar 21 2011, 01:16 PM)
now pharmacist in govn hosp easily getting rm7k and above
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yes..you get that after completing your pupilage, compulsory service, and serve for a few more years before you reach that grade. easily 5-7 years of hard work.

QUOTE(aizax007 @ Apr 23 2011, 01:01 PM)
fresh grad pharmacist get 3.7k with all the allowances added
I wonder what will it be in singapore
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it may vary from area to area....some may get 4k...
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post Apr 24 2011, 01:11 PM

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QUOTE(aizax007 @ Apr 24 2011, 12:22 PM)
4k for working at singapore??
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Sabah or Sarawak. Possible.



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post Apr 26 2011, 06:34 PM

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QUOTE(aizax007 @ Apr 24 2011, 11:35 PM)
owh really??
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yes. smile.gif basic will be the same... but your COLA will be higher..
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post Jul 23 2011, 09:41 PM

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QUOTE(cmyzhu @ Jul 23 2011, 02:03 PM)
B ut I'm thinking so bcos I'm from a average family. So I need to depend on financial aids and all. That's why i need to find out is it true that doctors will be jobless like how many have said in 5 to 10 years time, bcos if we're jobless then there will not even be a chance for u to be competent. On top of that, I'm not going into a reputable university. When I come out I'll have to carry the burden of my family income, that's the reason why i'm asking for advice above
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you won't be jobless that's for sure. There will always be places for you in the rural areas.

The question is are you willing to serve there? smile.gif

QUOTE(kuchikie @ Jul 23 2011, 05:55 PM)
i going to continue my study in bachelor of pharmacy, but anyone know any vacancy in private hospital for assistant pharmacist?want to work during holiday or maybe few years~ help me..btw, gov pharmacist around 3.5k only after tolak kwsp etc..u need 4 years contract with gov before you can work at private sector~
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You need to have a diploma in pharmacy to work as a pharmacy assistant.

3.5k not enough? Almost all the fresh grads from other sectors have salaries less than 3k.

And what gives you the idea that the private sector will have greener pastures? rolleyes.gif
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post Jul 23 2011, 10:33 PM

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QUOTE(kuchikie @ Jul 23 2011, 10:17 PM)
i have diploma in pharmacy hehe but looking for private hospital with vacancy~any info?
btw 3.5k i good enough for me, yes you're right, most of the fred grad hardly get 3k above sallary..
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i don't think private hospitals are taking in people with diplomas nowadays as there are already many pharmacist with degrees nowadays. maybe you can try government hospitals?
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post Jul 23 2011, 10:48 PM

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QUOTE(kuchikie @ Jul 23 2011, 10:42 PM)
i got offer from kpj tawakkal before basic rm1800 + allowance so total around RM2300 but i was studying so have to decline the offer lol..
yah i think hard to get an offer from private but based on my experience still have private hospital need AP cause usually pharmacist in private do not do outpatient dispensing..^^
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wah diploma holder even higher pay than some of the degree holder out there biggrin.gif

eh got la...

sunway or sjmc outpatient dispensing still pharmacist what...pharmacist in private hospitals can't do much one..


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post Jul 24 2011, 12:26 AM

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QUOTE(kuchikie @ Jul 23 2011, 11:06 PM)
really?haha, maybe only kpj do that, because they told me that in the interview, maybe i should inform them i have finished my study in diploma..maybe get the offer back haha~but if i get offer to continue my study in degree, for sure i will accept haha ^^
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you do know that you have redo 4 years of pharm degree right?
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post Jul 27 2011, 10:20 PM

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QUOTE(kuchikie @ Jul 25 2011, 01:26 PM)
yah i know ^^ but at least the salary is higher compared to diplome & for a long term, it is much better ^^
nowadays 4 years very fast one hehe
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All the best to you then. biggrin.gif

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