whats the starting salary range for pharmacists in malaysia? and how bout after working for a few years? Just interested to know the salary range in malaysia. Thanks guys =)

starting range??all pharmacist have to work for govt for 1st 3/4 yrs...is a must, for them to get licenese fr govt malaysia...so de salary is fix...is around 3400 (basic + allowance)

not so sure haha...
my cousin now just finish the 3 year for government.
1st year he get 2.5k... not bad lol
2nd year about 3.3k .... waaa
3nd year now 4k .... -- "
now he going to work for private hospital, just listen from him they offer him for a 4.8k salary there as the starter.

is it competitive to secure a job as a pharmacist? does a hospital need many pharmacists?

oh thanks, hmm... so its around 3k average to work in gov sector for the 1st 3-4 years. How bout after that? Do you earn more if you open your own shop or by working with hospitals or government?

after that i think u will be a register pharmist then that time not so sure. but the paid should be ok.
if open a own shop sure a risky but can earn more.

as long as you have the qualification and competent enough as a pharmacist, it is easy to get a job due to the shortage, not only in malaysia.


you can earn quite a lot if you venture into pharmacy business. you can get a lot by supplying medicine and medical appliances to doctors' clinics etc.

if you are to work in hospital, you can get better pay by being advance pharmacist e.g. specialist pharmacist, consultant pharmacist, or highly involved in management of the pharmacist/part of the hospital.

My friend in the second year already 4k+ lol no bad eh

For sure a hospital needs a big number of pharmacists...When the technician dispense the medicine to a patient if the patient have any doubt about the medication the pharmacist need to attend to this....if there is 20 dispensing counters don't expect 1 to cover for all 20 counters right?

For sure a shop of your own would be better

do i need to do an extra course for specialist? hmm, i heard msia is not giving doctors the authority to dispense medicine now, has it imply?

mr youngkies
How to become an advance pharmacist?
As stated above specialist and consultant pharmacist.
Did it just based on working perfomance and experience?
Or should we get the master degree to fit the position?

This post has been edited by Dangaioh: Jul 8 2008, 11:14 PM

3 years doing the housemanship eh?
not 1 year?
just now i read it in jpa portal saying that it is only a year doing the housemanship..then pass the forensic exam..register to pharmacy board..
n starting salary is aroung 2k somethng..
not sure la..
the only thing that i know..if ure working with industrial sector..esp with big pharmaceutical company..the salary will b higher compared to working in hosp or retail pharmacy
i hv a ques..
nowadays msia lack of pharmacist..
so..
does cgpa important for fresh grad?
or all of them will easily get the job?

doesnt matter if you are a First class honours student, 2nd upper, 2nd lower.. ur pay wont make a difference.. probably if 2 ppl are applying for a job and the interview for both the candidates are about the same.. an employer would choose 1 with a higher class.. i think thats all.
and since pharmacist are in shortage.. u dont have to worry about a job coz even if private hosp/industrial companies are already filled with pharmacist (basically impossible) you can just work with the goverment and earn a small but sufficient pay..

yes...pharmacist is very high demand in malaysia...especially if you get ur license...

i come across one pharmacist when i went to audit and his pay is 4.5k and he is sitting there doing nothing. doing some marketing and research thing. the company employ him just to use his license. good huh??

i think it is a bit low

heard now govn can earn like 7-8K as pharmacist

private can earn 10-15K

not sure but my cousin bro is a pharm, 3 yrs only but getting more than 10K working in shah alam

Are u sure with that ? My bro serve for gov for 2nd year now with basic 4k + allowance.

hey dont be crazy la..where got such a high salary one..pharmacist that serve gov in the three years times is RM3,300 (inclusive of all the allowance already)..if you think it is low then you can work in sabah or sarawak..then your salary will get RM800 for extra..become RM4,100 (inclusive allowance already)..after 3 years of services you will become a licensed pharmacist..basic salary will be RM4,500...salary will reached limit very fast..that means there would be a ceilling to it la..and the limit dont have RM10,000 that high okey..no one would pay that much for just a pharmacist..unless the company really earn alot..the highest pay from the survey is just RM7,800..[year 2010]

This post has been edited by Dangaioh: Aug 18 2010, 09:11 PM

not 'threshold' la, u mean 'limit'

Have to correct you there. Threshold is for 'minimum'

For your information, the latest salary for a fresh graduate is about RM3400-RM3600 after deduct tax (PCB), EPF and SOCSO. RM3400-RM3600 depends on the area u posted to (COLA).

For those who posted to Sabah and Sarawak, they will receive allowance of RM400-RM800..

I am truly not aware of the prospect of pharmacy. Previously, I have no intention to choose pharmacy because of my mindset that it is mostly administrative work and it's not as challenging as engineer.

The salary for pharmacy really dumbfound me. Are you guys really sure that pharmacy pay is this attractive? I am engineer but work in oil and gas setor to earn the equivalent. If this is true, I think I'm working twice the risk to get the same salary..

The salary is for fresh grad from gov college?

its the salary u draw once u start ur houseman + compulsory service... dun care whether u grad from local/gov/overseas.

Private Retail pharmacist range RM 5,000 (in small town) to RM 6.5K in Klang Valley but long and odd hour.

Hosp based Pharmacist - RM 4-5K (Non Managerial), RM 7-8K if managerial

Industrial based (Eg Factory based like Pharmaniaga, CCM Pharma) - RM 4-5K (Non Managerial), RM 7-8K if managerial, >RM 10K if senior management

My relative is a pharmacist, I just met her during the holiday.

Xuzen

hmm, u dont need to have a license to earn high pay as a pharmaceutical graduate. The question is how?
Pretty simple...once u've got ur degree, u use ur knowledge for illegal purposes =D nuf said

due to expensive expenses
money is number one
career will be decided soon after they know bout the salary
sigh.
who should we blame?
old says money can't buy happiness. dont be such a materialistic. money is not everything.
bla n bla.
but reality is, everybody's craving for money. the more the merrier.
be honest. agree ait?
back to the main topic,
we should understand n accept that..
the more u give, the more u will get back.
it doesn't means u must become a phrmacist, then only u can have big fat cash in ur wallet.
it is too general and quite silly i think.
life needs planning.
if u wanted in becoming a rich person at a young age n still want to have a degree cert, as if it gives u some honour - pride feeling..i dont know..ask urself..
being a pharmacist only is not the main issue.
if u finish ur spm, then u open some small shop. doing business, even a workshop , if u're a good planner and know how to do business, u also can become rich.

the point is. become what u wanna be.
money will comes if u know how .
dont chase it. make it follow u.

goodness fresh grad pay is the same as mine and even a little higher... worked for 4 years 2 in manufacturing 2 in O&G as procurement exec.. still so low... now in GLC ... sigh...

Pharmacist sets a premium on their pay because their license is valuable. Elementary Supply & demand, my dear Watson. Currently demand for the Pharmacist License outstrips the supply. That is why their pay commands a premium.

Xuzen

tats quite a pretty naive statement... judging from the response, i think u know nuts about a career as a pharmacist. If im thinking wat u are,

- no, pharmacist is not a chemist. We are not taught to plus this and plus tat material and come out with a drug. Its not A+B=C
-2ndly, without ur license, u cant do any import/export or even open shop.

for your information,
from the information about the salary stuff that i get from my senior that work at the respective country are as follow, now look:
work as uk pharmacist can earn an average of 2,200 pound per month: RM 11,000.00 per month (for the fresh graduate pharmacist in the uk)
work as singapore pharmacist can earn an average of 3,000 sing dolar per month: RM7,500.00 per month (fresh graduate singapore pharmacist)
work as australian pharmacist can earn an average of 4,800 aus dolar per month: RM15,000.00 per month (fresh graduate at australia pharmacist)

This post has been edited by Dangaioh: Mar 5 2010, 10:54 PM

Dangaioh havent add tax for both mat salleh country a... it will reduce the take home amount.

yeap, UK tax bracket is crazy btw.... so 2200 is actually 1100 (almost)..

Hi! I don't really understand this. What it means? What is premium? They will buy pharmacy license?

met my ex classmate a few days back...he was a pharmacist with the govn...earning rm6K ++ i think managerial level

now he is in a drug co, manufacturing.... as a manager or something like that drawing 14.5K....

so jelus when i sat in his 5 series......


somemore buy house more than 1 Mill....


and me only a plain technician earning rm2300

I think got kangtau... cos 14.5k/mth cannot get you that... trust me.

well, "managers" especially in american comp, got many levels one.

rm4k also manager, rm20k also manager.

then u shud learn from ur fren how to move up lor.

Illegal got lots of meaning.
Making some home made 'stuff', it may be possible if he/she can get the materials. In terms of logic and ethics, I don't think any pharmacist will do this.
Or he just simply means that doing some part-time job (as a fake pharmacist) in pharmacy only???


I think it's possible isn't?
It is very possible provided he is single. =)

If I tell you im single and I draw very close to that and cant afford the stuffs? I drive kancil and currently own a RM100 handphone.

LOL...That's just my opinion. It's totally your right to drive a kancil and own a hundred bucks HP regardless your income. =)

just wondering..for a fresh grad pharmacist in msia..does earning 3.5k per month can afford my life if i am not a heavy spender? can i save any money?

as far as i know,my aunty who works as pharmacist doesnt reach 3k for her first 2 years of working,for the first year which said 3k+ is kinda fishy.

Here's my experience working as a Human Resource Generalist in a private hospital in Kuala Lumpur.

Firstly, you need to have qualification recognised by the Pharmacy Board of Malaysia. You should have undergone pre-registration training for a year (minimum requirement) that is recognized by the Pharmacy Board of Malaysia. These criteria must be accredited by the Ministry of Health, Malaysia.

In addition, you are required to pass the Pharmacy Forensic / Jurisprudence Examination. Complete your housemanship for three years of compulsory government service as a fully registered pharmacist.

The starting monthly salary of a Provisionally Registered Pharmacist (PRP) is approximately RM2,700. Please keep in mind that it is an estimation based on my experience in Human Resource Management.

However, it is known that many PRPs are earning more than what I have written above because of additional allowances. For example: Certificate Allowances (CA), Hazard Allowances (HA), Attendance Allowances (AA), Cost of Living Allowance (COLA), so on and so forth. After adding all these mumbo jumbos, yours truly can rake in about RM5,000 to RM6,000 per month.

An advice for those who wants to venture into pharmacy. It definitely add to your value if you have Inventory Management (IM) knowledge and skills. If you have this as an added value skill set, I'm sure you are very well in demand compared to those graduated with Bachelor’s Degree in Pharmacy.

Heck it! If you are into healthcare industry, do consider to take a course to become a Radiologist. It's pretty square one with being a Registered Pharmacist.

Regards, Joey

This post has been edited by Joey Christensen: May 21 2010, 09:53 AM

Pharmaceutical line is something like IT industry, demand way more than supply, ENG, on the other hand, supply more than demand. But look at the bright side, the limit of an average engineer can reach is always higher than a pharmacist eventually given that you can endure the initial peanut pay after grad...you can say that sky is the limit for an engineer's salary. Why? it's pretty common these days that a company CEO or even a leader of a country comes with an engineering background, the other type are usually sales, doctor and lawyer. you can see there's a very big difference between these ppl with different profession when they're leader.

Currenty, I still havent heard of a CEO or a country president has a pharmaceutical background, maybe in the future we will have it, but I doubt there will be a lot of them seriously.

inventory management? as in wat?

also, i am wondering, does the company like pharmaniaga or pfizer look at your result if you going for industry pharmacist?

i read that demand of pharmacist outstrip the supply in msia nowadays. However, when i asked some of my friends, they mentioned that the gov hospital in west coast malaysia is pretty much saturated with pharmacist nowadays.. is that true?



This post has been edited by nimloth32: May 21 2010, 09:16 PM

not bad i think, you can check here -
http://myjobstreet-beta.jobstreet.com/care...lary-report.php

Enter Pharmacist in position title, and Malaysia as country.

looks like the salary is going higher and higher

my bro just got a promotion and his salary now is 15k ++
damn... i should have stdied this...

5-6k a month as a PRP? Seriously ?! My senior told me that her current wages as a PRP (West Malaysia) are only 3.4k a month inclusive of allowances. If you're working in East Malaysia then maybe around 4k.

By the way how do you specialise as a pharmacist? Am interested in eventually specialising as an anti-microbial pharmacist.

Won't be surprised. The whole world and their little siblings are studying pharmacy now x_x .

Well I read somewhere on this forum that a neurosurgeon can command a monthly salary of 300k++. Should have done medicine then. FML.



This post has been edited by `shinryu: Jul 23 2010, 03:10 PM

you cannot compare like this bro.

the cost of studying pharmacy is almost the double the cost of doing engineering.

for an average to do student like me, i will be graduating with an 80k debt(from ptptn) before i can really start earning money(that's if i didn't manage to secure any scholarships).

not everything is as good as it seems.

there are many master degrees offered by public unis for you to further study.

well, out of 50 neurosurgeons i think only 1 or 2 will make it to that level.

at this time of day, with the oversupplying of doctors..i doubt you can reach that level in 15 years. (if u don't know, specialising takes a pretty darn long time)

Either way apparently doctors on average still get paid more than pharmacists .

Oh so the Pharmacy Board/Malaysian Pharmaceutical Society doesn't offer such courses then . Have to shell out more money .

yea. plus the extra extra extra workload and stressload for that few hundred ringgit(ok maybe more)

but you have to be clear, being a pharmacist is not your way to riches although u can earn a decent living. if u wanna be a millionaire by 30, might as well be an entrepreneur and start your business, or go banking?

nope, they are just a regulatory body la.

if your results are good in degree, there's always high chances that you being offered to do masters for free.

No I mean the RPSGB in UK do offer some courses for continuing pharmacy education (if I remember correctly but not sure about the specialising bit) so I assumed that the Malaysian Pharmaceutical Society will do the same too but so far all I've seen under their continuing pharmacy education section are talks and seminars .

That's what I thought too initially (about docs earning slightly more but having a lot more work) but now when I hear everyone saying that doctors earn so much more..... not just a few hundred more but a few times more . However the hell they have to go through before getting to that level...mmmm...

Lol. I just graduated la dear. Starting my pre reg this October and my results were decent but nothing fancy (no first class honours + top of the class + a bunch of other fancy awards) so I don't think I can get a scholarship to do Masters that easily >_< .

This post has been edited by `shinryu: Jul 23 2010, 04:01 PM

hahahaha...which idiot will tell you the sad story of a doctor who can't even see one patient a day to make ends meet? sure all tell you the glamorous story one mar.

err...wait till u start to work then u will be grateful why u r a pharmacist, when u see those housemen.

for one, you will be working in full air conditioned rooms while the docs have to slog out in only-fans working environment.

u get to sit on the chair for at least 1 full hour, they don't.

want me to add?

Lol I guess it depends on where you're working as well. My senior who's doing her pre-reg constantly b1tches about how horrible life as a PRP is while another senior who did her pre-reg in the pharmacy bureau claims that working life is super chilled and easy.

Hopefully I won't be posted to somewhere stressful XD.



This post has been edited by `shinryu: Jul 23 2010, 05:29 PM

no matter won how also won be as taxing as a doctor la.

some how i find it quite boring to an extent

if u get posted to surgical wards then should be fun though.

This post has been edited by zstan: Jul 24 2010, 12:08 AM

I think for your pre reg year you'll go to all the wards on a rotation basis. After that I'm not sure but I think they'll probably assign you to a particular department. According to my senior apparently the outpatient department is the worst and the most boring, just sit there dispensing prescriptions like a robot xP .

My cousin who is a pharmacist just recently attended a Watson Pharmacy Career talk.

Starting salary for Fresh Grad is a basic = RM 6K, RM 7,500 if two years experience or more.

Store Manager = RM 10,500.00

Latest insider info.

Sucks you did not take pharmacy eh?

Xuzen

Fresh grad 0_0 ? Don't you have to work for the govt for 4 years first? Or by fresh grad do you mean someone who's just finished their 4 years of government service XD ?

ahaha...yea..that's why i said it could be boring... surgical wards could be fun though..more cases..although i hope to get out of gov hospital as soon as possible


yea i think he meant that..

rm10k seems alot..

but i think that's the pinnacle..

10k is enough for me :3 . As long as it's enough to raise a family w/out depending on my hubby's income then it's good enough for me. So if anything happens to my hubby (touch wood!!) or if we end up divorced (touch wood too!!) then at least my family and I can survive. For some reason I'm super paranoid of turning into those women who end up in trouble because they're too dependent on their hubby's income >_< ./off topic


Back to the topic, if you're going to do your pre reg in Malaysia I'd advise you to avoid HTAR Klang if possible. I've heard from too many people that working there is a nightmare! Crazy politics + insane workload x___x;;; .



This post has been edited by `shinryu: Jul 24 2010, 02:43 PM

My cousin got RM 5,000 pay after working less than 2 years, but the thing is that he spent hundreds and thousands of $$$ studying in ireland... No idea why he's back, shud have stayed back.

yes starting is good
like i said ...my bro got 10k last time...now already15k

so i believe your bro also will achieve it
by 30rs old. can earn 15k is damn good

girl different from guy ma.

10k where got enough to kao lui, buy car, buy house, give parents?

u heard from who?

doctors? or pharmacists?

Pharmacists . Which sounds very scary lol. Well if you're contributing to all the household expenses alone then yeah it probably won't be enough XD. However I think usually the costs of the house are shared between both partners? So it's not that 'painful' XD.

what did they complain about?

rm10000 when i come out....i think should be smaller than rm10000 now lor...

Well basically the workload is crazy (compared to other hospitals apparently) and that the office politics there are very scary >_< . That's what I heard anyway XD . HOWEVER if you go in with a positive attitude then you should be able to survive .

in order to work with watson, the pharmacist must be registered with the MPS (malaysia pharmaceutical society)
wut xuzen means is that after the PRP and houseman, the pharmacist can receive that salary
of course, work with private hospital thereafter also can get more paid as well

This post has been edited by Dangaioh: Jul 24 2010, 11:57 PM

why will it be crazy? unless there are shortages of pharmacist and dispensers.

Not too sure about that actually. I just heard that it's extremely busy and some say that it's haunted =___________=;;;; .

Then again if you really want to believe that it's haunted then you might as well say the same thing for ALL hospitals XD .

This post has been edited by `shinryu: Jul 25 2010, 10:48 PM

Where is your brother working? as in hospital/community/industry...

really a?

cause i see those pharmacist at HKL....err..busy la..but not EXTREMELY busy....

Oh well I think the other hospitals aren't as bad as HTAR for some reason (which I have never thought of asking about >_>;;;). Just that most of my seniors (those who aren't at HTAR) seem to be having a breeze but the ones who are at HTAR are crying blood. When one of my classmates (who lives in Klang) posted on facebook about hoping to get HTAR a lot of seniors commented saying 'Lol you sure? We heard HTAR is horrible.' =_=;;. However no one explained why is it worse compared to all the other hospitals >_> . The most anyone has ever said is 'Crazy workload and bad politics' but no one explained why is the workload more =_=;;;. Never thought of asking either until you asked why XD .

This post has been edited by `shinryu: Jul 26 2010, 02:53 AM

well, for me i would get a proper explanation on why a place is deemed good/horrible before coming to a conclusion.

and there are so many departments in the hospital as well. if outpatient pharmacy i would understand its very busy, but i don't think the pharmacy at general surgery, urology etc will be that busy IMO.

i do believe that bad politics exists as its very hard to gain promotion in the public sector..especially so if you are not bumiputera...

You've little to none information pertaining the pharmaceutical industry. It's a professional path which is similar to engineering. With the licensing and CPD keeping you in check, you'll be very much surprised if one to be told that an engineer is equivalent to a registered pharmacist.

Regards, Joey

industry in kl

hospital wise salary is limited

but he say a lot of stress

Inventory Management of pharmaceutical items is also commonly referred to as stock control, is a process where you use to keep track of objects and materials used in business operations. The practice of inventory control is to minimise costs associated with procuring and stocking unneeded inventory. For my side, it's the responsibility of the Chief Pharmacist to handle such procurement process. Drugs in, drugs out. How much left? How much has been dispensed? You should have a picture on how Inventory Management works.

It's been a saturating all over the place across the board. What makes you different from the others? I'll let you to answer your own question.

Regards, Joey

Maybe it's busier because there are more patients overall :S ? That's the only explanation I can think of x_x . If that's the case then shouldn't bad politics exist in all government run hospitals XD ?

erm..

i dun think the number of patients in klang can outbeat HKL or PPUM..these 2 are the GHs after all.

ahaha..usually those small small ones dun have gua?

can't really comment about these, haven't seen the situation for myself before. but i do know that there are stupid supervisors who don't really care about the welfare of their subordinates though.

hey, if you are thinking about money only, then it is better dont go for pharmacy, u have to sacrifice urself to do alot alot alot of hardworks..no matter u are studying or working in the pharmacy practice field..it is all about responsibility and duties..u have to serve the patients..u have to set ur mindset to treat people at first prior to earn money..although a pharmacist is consider middle income group people that could earn around RM7,000 per month(experienced pharmacist ie. 7 years experience)..u can consider to join direct selling company if u really want money only..most of the youngster nowsday join this path to earn money..and i got 4 frens they are just 17 years old their salary was already RM35,000..if they still put more hardwork into it..RM100,000 per month is not a problem at all..they feel energetic everyday and have motivation to do their job.. they are quite enjoy their job as well and they treat it as entertainment u see..thus, u must know ur objective..if u love your job, most probably u can do it well..is ur mind just thinking about money only or what..rethink it again..what u want actually, most of the pharmacist students always complain alot of work to do and alot of reading material to read up..

This post has been edited by Dangaioh: Aug 18 2010, 09:34 PM

who told u that? WRONG INFORMATION.

This post has been edited by bafukie: Aug 19 2010, 02:22 PM

oops, sorry..typo error already..the pharmacist should be register with malaysia pharmacy board..not MPS hehe..tx for telling..

3.8k including allowance right??

now pharmacist in govn hosp easily getting rm7k and above

such high salary for pharmacist? One of my friend open her own shop, according to her, really earns a lot per month. But I'm not sure of the figure

wa, since when the salary raise till so high?

fresh grad pharmacist get 3.7k with all the allowances added
I wonder what will it be in singapore

yes..you get that after completing your pupilage, compulsory service, and serve for a few more years before you reach that grade. easily 5-7 years of hard work.

it may vary from area to area....some may get 4k...

4k for working at singapore??

Sabah or Sarawak. Possible.

owh really??

yes. basic will be the same... but your COLA will be higher..

my sister gonna take bsc. pharmacy, then the counselor told her you won't get a license from Malaysia government because she get C for physic, in order to get a license she must get at least all B in science subjects ( biology , physic and chemistry)

is that true? any help is appreciated..

wow

i got A+ for my physics

too bad didnt study pharmacy

Hello, so as for now how's the demand of pharmacist in Malaysia as well as other countries? I'm considering abt whether to do MBBS or pharmacy for degree now, and i'm having quite some doubts. Cause' i've heard there are too many doctors out there as well. Please help me =)

yup...2 study MBBS,BDS n BPharm(Hons), it is necessary 2 get at least B4, which mean at least B(since SPM2009) in following subject in SPM:

Biology
Physics
Chemistry
Mathematics
Additional Mathematics

it applied in all public n private university...

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Added on July 21, 2011, 12:47 amsorry if my comment below let u uncomfortable...bt i write tis without offend..

i can understand u asking these type of question, juz like most students will find a comfortable,rewarding n demanding profession 2 study...
one thing i wanna to mention is both MBBS n Pharmacy are health care profession, i think u should more focus on ur personal interest since u will service to whole community, u should hav more professional thinking rather than juz choose a more rewarding n demanding profession...

MBBS n Pharmacy is a health care profession which is the leading profession in the whole world, 4 me, only incompetent n lack of confident ppl will scare their profession is overflooded... but tis does nt mean i agree with these courses' low entry requirement in private uni which is the main reason which causes the doctor n pharmacy overflooded 4 future...
If u think u r competent 2 the job, please choose accept the challenge... All position/job/profession gt it challenge, n if u r the best, u sure will get a rewarding return..
If u think u r incompetent, pls dun step in health care profession, tis is a profession associate with human life n community health!!!

very sorry if i let any1 feel uncomfortable but i really feel sad when i c the frend bside me choosing course juz bcos the high salary n better future without a professional thinking, without a thinking 2 serve the community...
if a doctor n pharmacy only think about the money, den can imagine a situation of doctor/pharmacist dispense many medicine 2 a patient which only get a mild cough since the doctor/pharmacist wan 2 sold out their medicine?

Lastly, i hope u find ur best way 2 continue ur study...good luck n all d best..

This post has been edited by wkheng: Jul 21 2011, 12:47 AM