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kobe8byrant
post Jun 8 2008, 01:11 PM

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It's not the most tight fisted manager, the most attacking minded manager, the most moral manager but it's the best manager and how do we objectively measure success? By number of trophies. Otherwise, why are we targeting Liverpool's perch? rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(SeaMonster @ Jun 8 2008, 12:33 PM)
Yup, If You Ask Me, Who Is Best In This 5Year?

For Sure.. I Will Vote Jose Mourinho..

There Is No What He Can Build A Diamond Team With Budget Money Or What..
All Rubbish..
To Be A Sucessful Manager , Sometime Also To Relia To The Club's Backgraound & Money & Abit Of Luck..

Yes, Without Those Issue, He Still Can Paise As A Good Manager But Not The Best..

Try We Talk About The Final At Moscow.. MU Won The Game, Also Relia To Some Luck biggrin.gif

I'm Mu Supporter, Not Chelsea.. But That's Fact
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Seriously? Multiply that time period by two and Mourinho doesn't have two of what Ferguson has and I don't mean balls tongue.gif

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post Jun 8 2008, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(nizamhameed @ Jun 8 2008, 01:50 PM)
@ts, what's factor do u weight more in order to determine who is the best manager?
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Criterion on how to be the best manager of our time:

1) Don't spend as much money as Wenger
2) Don't win as much as Wenger
3) Buy players from Africa and nick them off academies
4) Ignore signings like Jeffers and Reyes and only point at Djemba-Djemba and Kleberson
5) Slam teams that choose to be wise tactically


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QUOTE(MADReaLJL @ Jun 8 2008, 02:01 PM)
i saw that in saf cool2.gif
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And I don't see
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can lift and motivate them when things aren't going their way
in Wenger.

When was the last time we've seen Wenger drag Arsenal out of a slump? It normally takes one whole season for them to regroup. 49 game run ended? Went pear shape after that. This season - commanding lead, lost a couple here and there and again never recovered.

And a blank chequebook will be found out? 22 years ain't a short period of time. laugh.gif
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post Jun 8 2008, 02:13 PM

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Not wanting to spend and don't have resources to spend aren't the same. We have seen Wenger stating his belief in signing youths and fair play but we aren't in a race in being the most profitable, or best returns on investment but we are in a business to WIN.
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post Jun 8 2008, 02:27 PM

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I think if you are a supporter of a small team, a manager like Wenger would be a dream manager as he will make a small team to become a great team. With the money coming into the game, If ferguson was to manage a team like Derby with a limited budget, he would have been a nobody. With Arsene Wenger, if he was to be a coach for a small team, the small team will become a great team with his ability to turned gemstone into diamonds.Any manager can be successful with money, Chelsea have proven that and also Blackburn years ago.

Wenger took a team struggling normally finishing around 6th and made them into one of, if not the best team in England, he won the double in his first full season, he won the league undefeated, his transfers are amazing, its Wenger all the way!


Tracked back a bit here.

Arsenal aren't a small club and which is why he should stop managing Arsenal the way he has. You could argue that Arsenal has had success with showing me FA Cups and Premier League titles and I wouldn't begrudge that but sustained success requires bucketloads of money and money alone doesn't give you success. Newcastle and Chelsea? Newcastle for one season and Mourinho - well he was/is a good manager. Ferguson has had that for decades - SUSTAINED success.

Sir Alex Ferguson didn't start his managing career at United and Aberdeen ain't a big club. My opinion alone, you aren't the best manager by going 20 to 6th but you become the best by being 1st and staying 1st. I'm out of here - we'd agree to disagree.
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post Jun 8 2008, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(disco333 @ Jun 8 2008, 02:31 PM)
Would I sacrifice all that pleasure just to see us win Cups and Leagues while playing like United or Chelsea? No my friends - because then I'd be no better than the bandwagon jumpers I despise.

So here's to style, quality and sexy football in 08/09 - AND success

Say what you like about our lack of success, most Arsenal fans don't give a rats ass! We play the Wenger way and we are satisfied!
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Playing like United? You must have selective vision. We have had the MOST GOALS (testament to our attacking prowess - should you ignore that and choose with a one-man Ronaldo show debate, my response? Henry) and the LEAST GOALS conceded.

The only reason you are saying so is because Arsenal won nuts and that's the best you could conjure up - Arsenal beat X and Y with reserve teams but that doesn't mean squat if you finish the season with nothing. Call me a glory hunter but I want success for United. Who wouldn't?

I don't buy any of that "I'd sacrifice trophies for beautiful football." Satisfied with Wenger's way? Well, judging from Arsenal fan blogs, I beg to differ. Most Arsenal fans would choose substance over style backed by trophies and not the intangible beautiful football.

Style? Check
Quality ? Check
Sexy football ? Check
08/09 ? We'll see
Success? Check again.....

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post Jun 8 2008, 02:43 PM

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This coming from a boy with a cartoon as his avatar
If you are better than us, why resort to personal attacks?

QUOTE(corez @ Jun 8 2008, 02:40 PM)
TS is Arsene Wenger smile.gif

He is free at this moment since it is off season tongue.gif
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PM me details on why/how much you selling the 80GB. Have a friend who wants one. tongue.gif

 

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