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post Jun 7 2008, 02:03 AM


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my question about the wifi software is..
is there any software that can detect who is using our wireless...?
and the software can disconnect the user...?

i just need the software because i be able to know who are using the wireless...
so anyone?
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post Jun 7 2008, 02:09 AM


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hmm.. use password?
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post Jun 7 2008, 02:15 AM


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I lol-ed at this question. You don't need a software to know who's connected to your router. Just go to your internet browser and type in your router's default IP address (usually it: 192.168.1.1). It's your own will to learn on how to continue from here.


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QUOTE(Tingwei89 @ Jun 7 2008, 02:09 AM)
hmm.. use password?
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TS said on "wifi stealing detector" not on how to block people from stealing his wifi. doh.gif Read the freaking thread properly. shakehead.gif

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post Jun 7 2008, 02:20 AM


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use a smaller antenna?

anyway, at ur router, the person who stole ur wifi will be listed there at the dhcp list. unknown mac addresses are the thefts.
then u can proceed to mark those mac address to ban them.


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post Jun 7 2008, 02:27 AM


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QUOTE(lj0000 @ Jun 7 2008, 02:20 AM)
use  a smaller antenna?

anyway, at ur router, the person who stole ur wifi will be listed there at the dhcp list. unknown mac addresses are the thefts.
then u can proceed to mark those mac address to ban them.
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How does using a smaller antenna work? Reducing area of connection will mean sacrificing your connection area. I however, agree on the DHCP method.
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post Jun 7 2008, 02:36 AM


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dont waste your time detecting.

encrypt your wireless (with WPA) + mac access list.
should be good enough.
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post Jun 7 2008, 02:41 AM


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QUOTE(blah1134 @ Jun 7 2008, 02:36 AM)
dont waste your time detecting.

encrypt your wireless (with WPA) + mac access list.
should be good enough.
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Mine is encrypted that way however it can still be broken. sad.gif
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post Jun 7 2008, 02:43 AM


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QUOTE(blah1134 @ Jun 7 2008, 02:36 AM)
dont waste your time detecting.

encrypt your wireless (with WPA) + mac access list.
should be good enough.
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he mayb wan to trap ppl stealing his wifi...



if your device capable, upgrade to WPA2
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post Jun 7 2008, 03:09 AM


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use LAN ( cable ) instead of Wireless ?

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post Jun 7 2008, 11:34 AM


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QUOTE(lucaswjk @ Jun 7 2008, 02:43 AM)
he mayb wan to trap ppl stealing his wifi...
if your device capable, upgrade to WPA2
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Oh, okay thanks for the advice.

QUOTE(Suk @ Jun 7 2008, 03:09 AM)
use LAN ( cable ) instead of Wireless ?
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Use LAN cable and put the cable all over the house? blink.gif I have got 5-7 computers, how can I use LAN cable? The router only got 4 port.

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post Jun 7 2008, 03:31 PM


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thx for the advance..
but yea..i noe that we can encrypt our wireless...
okay..lets change topic, lets say "how to know whether there's people using our network?" (and of course they know the password)...
don't care if its stated as IP address...
at least we know that there's people around using the network...

so btw, about DHCP list..
what's thata all about?
and how to find them??
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post Jun 7 2008, 03:38 PM


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Do a ping sweep across your DHCP assigned ip address range...once you identify an ip address which does not belong to one of your PC's you can then try to determine who or what it belongs to. You can then use a couple of freeware tools available such as nmap or GFI LanScan and others to determine the intruder. After that its up to you what you wanna do with his traffic, you can run a sniffer to capture his network traffic or you can try to use various hacker tools out there to gain admin level access to the PC....the fun things you can do goes on and on....
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post Jun 7 2008, 03:48 PM


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i think there's an option where you can view computer connected to your network...
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post Jun 7 2008, 05:51 PM


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QUOTE(BurgerRI @ Jun 7 2008, 03:38 PM)
Do a ping sweep across your DHCP assigned ip address range...once you identify an ip address which does not belong to one of your PC's you can then try to determine who or what it belongs to. You can then use a couple of freeware tools available such as nmap or GFI LanScan and others to determine the intruder. After that its up to you what you wanna do with his traffic, you can run a sniffer to capture his network traffic or you can try to use various hacker tools out there to gain admin level access to the PC....the fun things you can do goes on and on....
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to steal back from a thief is like a thief himself

wep
if i were u, i will just change password every now and then... 90% secure
once a month will do, then he will just give up

wpa
wpa very hard to hack, he only able to hack everytime u enter passphase
so he have to wait for u to login... like stalking
even u do enter passphase, he oni have 50% of success. if u r using WPA-PSK
the password must be long... prefer at least 8 character which consist of alphanumeric, symbolic, and case sensitive...

wpa2
no way to crack at the moment
support in xp sp3, else use your device wifi manager

ps: u can always let da hacker use your wifi since u already pay for the unlimited packages, dont be stingy...
he work hard for free access, something to encourage young ppl to learn more

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post Jun 7 2008, 05:59 PM


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QUOTE(BurgerRI @ Jun 7 2008, 04:38 PM)
Do a ping sweep across your DHCP assigned ip address range...once you identify an ip address which does not belong to one of your PC's you can then try to determine who or what it belongs to. You can then use a couple of freeware tools available such as nmap or GFI LanScan and others to determine the intruder. After that its up to you what you wanna do with his traffic, you can run a sniffer to capture his network traffic or you can try to use various hacker tools out there to gain admin level access to the PC....the fun things you can do goes on and on....
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cool stuff..
but im not clear to that ping sweeping stuff...
how to do it ??


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i think there's an option where you can view computer connected to your network...


whut's the option??
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post Jul 30 2008, 12:29 AM


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use lan is the best.stable.the cons is the area is limited
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post Jul 30 2008, 12:48 AM


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QUOTE(noien @ Jul 30 2008, 01:29 AM)
use lan is the best.stable.the cons is the area is limited
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shakehead.gif zzz... he already said he have 7 computers but just 4 ports.. what r u trying to point out?
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post Jul 30 2008, 01:04 AM


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QUOTE(lucaswjk @ Jun 7 2008, 05:51 PM)


ps: u can always let da hacker use your wifi since u already pay for the unlimited packages, dont be stingy...
he work hard for free access, something to encourage young ppl to learn more
the worst case if u block him... he might revenge on your computer system
never fight with hacker if u r not hacker
dont said i never warn u
since you are rich, let the thieves steal some of your money.
well if some1 wanna learn lock opening technic , learn it from the locksmith & not by experimenting with your neighbor's car.

icon_question.gif ppl like you are encouraging the growth of crime. icon_question.gif
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post Jul 30 2008, 03:28 AM


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u can check in ur router page.

which show who is connected to ur wireless router.
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post Jul 30 2008, 03:35 AM


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actually got a chinese program than can control all the client
include download rate, upload rate, bandwidth, disconnect it, and many more..
my friend have it to control his housemate for torrent and youtube,,,
try find at google.. and it was a shareware..
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post Jul 31 2008, 03:28 PM


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i think hes merely a kiddo cracker. Try sniffing to confirm the fact. If yes, then u can play with him. If u dunno hw to play. Perfect time to learn. Nothin is better when some kiddos lay themselves on to your trap thinking they are the predator.

It's very common/easy to crack into wifi even if u hide your ssid/encrypted. So cant help it. Gotta find out his ip. Ban it. If u jz wanna make love not war.
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post Aug 1 2008, 10:51 PM


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actually, there is a software..
my dad use it...
it was one time that my wifi at home isnt secured.
my dad found this software and installed it...
and found that one of my neighbour using my fast streamyx FOC!! vmad.gif
(my streamyx at home is very2 fast and stable)..

go and try it...trial here..but if u r clever enough, for sure u can find its *ahem*...
>>> Network Magic
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post Aug 3 2008, 07:00 PM


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yea i just wanna know who's stealing the wifi...
not control them...;}
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Ok,the most simplest thing to do is put a password la,and block the guys internet.it's so easy. rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(ichigo_6091 @ Aug 3 2008, 08:01 PM)
Ok,the most simplest thing to do is put a password la,and block the guys internet.it's so easy. rclxms.gif
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lol hard, read the post above you before posting.
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QUOTE(angelgemini @ Jul 30 2008, 03:35 AM)
actually got a chinese program than can control all the client
include download rate, upload rate, bandwidth, disconnect it, and many more..
my friend have it to control his housemate for torrent and youtube,,,
try find at google.. and it was a shareware..
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Can let me know where can get tis software?
searching for tis kind of control too...
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post Aug 5 2008, 06:24 PM


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yea...
i need the software too for future use..;]
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QUOTE(lucaswjk @ Jun 7 2008, 05:51 PM)
to steal back from a thief is like a thief himself

wep
if i were u, i will just change password every now and then... 90% secure
once a month will do, then he will just give up

wpa
wpa very hard to hack, he only able to hack everytime u enter passphase
so he have to wait for u to login... like stalking
even u do enter passphase, he oni have 50% of success. if u r using WPA-PSK
the password must be long... prefer at least 8 character which consist of alphanumeric, symbolic, and case sensitive...

wpa2
no way to crack at the moment
support in xp sp3, else use your device wifi manager

ps: u can always let da hacker use your wifi since u already pay for the unlimited packages, dont be stingy...
he work hard for free access, something to encourage young ppl to learn more

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OMG I have a feeling that he stole someone else's connection to reply this post biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(noien @ Jul 30 2008, 12:29 AM)
use lan is the best.stable.the cons is the area is limited
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You go and connect 5-7 computers via switch lor hmm.gif Anyway,Wifi is the best way,for my case its works fine.Neighbours dont have wifi too,so i no need to worry about it.

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post Sep 6 2008, 02:05 PM


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finally...
i use cain and abel for wifi stealer detector...
also i use wireless key view to view people's wireless encrytped wifi password...idk how to say that..lol
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dun juz simply boast on how you did dis n dat. and ur only way to view other ppl wireless key is if u have control on that user's pc.

stick to TS main topic la.




- checking dHCP for unknown user is uselesss, as one who hack into ur network tot of dis already, and would proceed on using static instead, thus DHCP checking useless

-mac address, pointless, hacker can always change deir adapter MAC Address to any of the legitimate MAC Address for that network. useless too

-limit ur available range of ip assignable through custom subnetting, hacker still got the choices of screwing all connected client ( in another word , sending deauth packet to the network , he cant access, no one can access)

basically no matter which way we try to prevent, there still be ways to counter.

if i were TS, i would dial my streamyx using my PC, enable ICS share it to ur wireless router/ap to others
installed a winpcap or any other packet snatcher tools .
any internet connection would then go through ur pc when routed out to internet.
with those information,
u can then backfire the hacker ^^

the only bad news is, if the objective of hacker is not to gain free internet access, but juz for the sake of crippling down ur network, den i rest my case

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Some antivirus software like pc-cillin got the wifi protection, can detect when someone connected to your wifi.
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just set a password to block those user.
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QUOTE(Sylvester.ee @ Sep 26 2008, 06:28 PM)
just set a password to block those user.
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Yea, i think this is the best way to protect ppl from using ur internet for free. At my house i can get free internet as my neighbour doesnt protect it with password. Free internet for me cool2.gif (it pretty fast watching vid on youtube)

I also heard about some program like backtrack that can crack down the wireless network. Any opinion to against this illegal act?
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QUOTE(Cubex01 @ Sep 27 2008, 10:18 PM)
Yea, i think this is the best way to protect ppl from using ur internet for free. At my house i can get free internet as my neighbour doesnt protect it with password. Free internet for me  cool2.gif (it pretty fast watching vid on youtube)

I also heard about some program like backtrack that can crack down the wireless network. Any opinion to against this illegal act?
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backtrack is not a program.. backtrack is more like a modified version of linux, includes various security tools that helps ethical hackers to spot vulnerabilities on a network.. but can be used to do evil things also.. i've used it, lots of useful tools if u know how to use them, but useless if u dunno how to utilize them.. some are command-line based, so good luck smile.gif
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any1 noe what is that chinese software mentioned above? (at least name it )
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post Nov 20 2008, 07:44 PM


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i dont actually believe in wireless esp in internet conenction.
i feel not secure at all.
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and also wireless keyboard...
maybe the guy next door is recording your keystroke....
so wired is the best!

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Just check router status page or get a radius server :-) sure nobody can hack into your network
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QUOTE(minghao @ Aug 10 2008, 11:58 AM)
You go and connect 5-7 computers via switch lor hmm.gif Anyway,Wifi is the best way,for my case its works fine.Neighbours dont have wifi too,so i no need to worry about it.
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actually, that is a more secure method.. less chance of ppl hacking into the network directly assuming ur firewall works
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