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post Jun 9 2008, 07:48 PM

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QUOTE(a6meister @ Jun 9 2008, 12:28 PM)

secondly, i would also like to know where can i get a semi d below 300k in Klang Valley.
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Plenty available in Rawang, Sepang etc smile.gif
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post Jun 11 2008, 05:39 PM

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QUOTE(jeff_ckf @ Jun 11 2008, 04:49 PM)
I was actually suprised by the size of the studio unit rather than the price....400 sq ft??  sweat.gif
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You'll be even more suprised when you know how much rental these shoe-box unit can fetch whistling.gif
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post Jun 13 2008, 08:27 PM

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I personally feel that during the actual recession, u really need balls made of steel to actually buy a property. Reason :


1. Banks r too afraid to lend you money even if you could afford to pay the sky-rocketting interest.

2. Everybody around u will be telling u to keep your cash, cash is king, properties is expensive etc, times r bad.....negative feel that will drag u down.

3. U dunno if you will still be employed next month, hence should you really take the risk DURING A RECESSION?

4. You then realized that good property's value doesnt drop that much, UNLESS we're talking about massive supply VS average demand.


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post Jun 13 2008, 11:12 PM

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QUOTE(Syd G @ Jun 13 2008, 10:17 PM)
@Pai,

The funny thing is .. now with the economy tumbling down, the rates of homeloans are getting more attractive. I guess they're channeling their money more towards secured loans these days.

Cash IS king. Rawr.
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Mate, totally disagree with your notion that the economy is tumbling down. From early 2007 till the recent election, we had the best stock and property run in years and the economy is gowing on a steady pace. This is the reason why banks can afford to offer such attaractive rates early this year and you could see it today.

Bottomline : Economy good -> we get good rates. My bet is that the moment BNM gives a 50bp rate hike, very unlikely that banks will offer such attractive rates anymore.
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post Jun 14 2008, 10:04 AM

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post Jun 16 2008, 07:41 PM

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QUOTE(aaronpang @ Jun 16 2008, 10:27 AM)
Auction properties are troublesome and risky for the inexperienced...

With prudent planning, buffer savings and spending cutbacks - majority of existing home buyers will ride through the recent petrol price increases.

Right now the full impact of building materials increase and petrol hike has not been fully realized in the pricing of existing properties.

There's never been a better time to buy new ready build properties. Supply is high and demand is low so why wait for foreclosure/auction houses  hmm.gif

Anyway I'm not a investor my views are just casual observations  sweat.gif what do you guys think?
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I'd say anytime is a good time to buy a property with the RIGHT fundamentals. wink.gif
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post Jun 17 2008, 04:27 PM

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I personally think one should only avoid newbie developers as strong developers usually have the resources to complete a project with or without recession.
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post Jun 17 2008, 09:31 PM

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QUOTE(agape_ian @ Jun 17 2008, 01:44 PM)
The price is going up after the petrol hike! Check the news today!

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=...6048&sec=nation
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being vested, I could only................................ rclxm9.gif


Also a bit regret that I didnt have enuff................. sad.gif



So glad that I choose to invest in properties rather than other instruments wink.gif


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post Jun 18 2008, 10:09 PM

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QUOTE(Lawyer1 @ Jun 18 2008, 03:11 PM)
Wait for the prices to drop - hold-off your purchases now if you can, everybody,...................
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Bro, dont mean to dash your hopes, but even during the last ACTUAL recession in 1997, properties in decent locations hardly goes down, unless we're talking about over-supply situation here, like MK and KLCC. In fact you might end up paying more as the property correction works both ways tongue.gif

As of today, there are decent bargains for one to catch, provided they looked hard enuff. Can still get a 3 room condo in KL for less than 170k, nearby LRT sumore. Wait somemore and properties like this will correct itsef UPWARDlS wink.gif

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post Jun 19 2008, 05:34 PM

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QUOTE(johnsonm @ Jun 19 2008, 04:48 PM)
dudes, from what i gather, blr is going up. investor heavy and new places such as mont kiara and klcc will suffer a dip, as these investors probably have committed a large portion of their net worth towards property investment, and also as these places are new, their loans will still be owing to the bank.

more mature places like ttdi, bangsar will not suffer as much as most houses there are fully paid off. rise in blr wont affect them. also, i feel the prices there are not over-inflated, unlike klcc and mk.
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Same feel here mate smile.gif

KLCC and MK has too many speculators and the supply level is just overwhelming. Those who r looking to buy in these areas will be spoilt of choice.


Added on June 19, 2008, 5:37 pm
QUOTE(joe_mamak @ Jun 19 2008, 02:21 AM)
I think in 1997 there were quite a number of fire sales.  You know, those who got burnt to a crisp in the market and had to liquidate.

Then there was the exodus of foreign professionals out of the country.  Quite a number of condos in Bangsar went vacant.  Those who couldn't hold on had to sell.
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The firesale u mentioned, what was the degree of discount available back then? 20%? 30%?

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post Jun 20 2008, 09:30 AM

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QUOTE(Lawyer1 @ Jun 20 2008, 09:11 AM)
True then the place counts too, but if say, for Bangsar where the houses are fully-paid up, I don't think we can say that the prices will still appreciate during a recession. Why ?

Sure, nobody would be throwing, but if someone is to sell at a high price (thinking there would be appreciation), will there be takers, since everybody is having difficulty ? Likw what mentioned here, we can sell at whatever prices that we want, but if nobody buys, then still no point.
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Then its no longer a "property depreciation" issue, its a liquidity issue intead.

The issue during recession is always liquidity. Prices will hold but there arent many takers around.

 

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