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Lawyer1
post Jun 8 2008, 09:37 PM

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QUOTE(hotlink @ Jun 8 2008, 09:47 PM)
I mean the price now

2 storey semi D : 297k (90% completed)
2 storey            : 260k (New launch maybe will become 280k or 290k when 90% completed)

If i buy now, i can get 2 storey semi D with 297k
if i buy later, with 297k in future, i only can buy 2 storey

Actually is my parents wanna stay with me so that i no need to travel back hometown twice a month.
Besides that , I just feel that I will never ever to own a semi D if i buy later on as everything keep increasing.
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Well, my friend,.... if you have always wanted to stay in a Semi-D, then you must buy it now. Things are so uncertain nowadays, you never know what will happen to the prices later on.

Lawyer1
post Jun 12 2008, 05:33 PM

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QUOTE(oumind @ Jun 12 2008, 01:07 AM)
Waiting for fire sale about two years from now ...
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Interesting statement !

May I ask how do you know there would be a fire-sale in two years from now ?

Because if the said fire-sale does not come along, then you would have incurred opportunity cost. Your money would have earned more elsewhere.
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post Jun 12 2008, 09:18 PM

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QUOTE(jchong @ Jun 12 2008, 10:11 PM)
I too anticipate that there will be a downturn in the economy in the next 1-2 years. And when there's a downturn, property will drop in price from current levels. Whether it will reach 'fire sale' levels is hard to say but it will soften.

But the real question is: when the downturn comes, is property the best thing to pick up? smile.gif
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I belived the 'softening' can be seen now. If you look in the streets, there are less cars and less traffic jams now.

What do the others here observe ?

I think this is a very noticeable occurence.
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post Jun 13 2008, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(hotlink @ Jun 13 2008, 04:25 PM)
Let's assume Jan 2009 recession, June 2009 10% of people lose jobs, 2010 more and more people lose job. So if people lose job selling property, I guess is around 2011. So you have to wait for 3 more years before you can get a house. But not everyone can wait for 3 more years, if they need a house around 1 or 2 years.

How old are you now vaio_me?
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Hotlink, seems like you are able to count the effects and able to predict the recession, if it comes. But have you been through a recession before ?

I mean have a personal experience in a recession ? If you have, then I would think you are able to foretell then.


Added on June 13, 2008, 3:58 pm
QUOTE(Syd G @ Jun 13 2008, 04:12 PM)
Of course. That's if you manage to save tongue.gif
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I'm afraid I have to agree with Syd here. If you are only starting to save now to accumulate bullets for the recession, then, it will be difficult because now that all things have gone up in price, your expenses will be high.

Previously, when things around us were cheaper, that would have been the time to save. .....

This post has been edited by Lawyer1: Jun 13 2008, 03:58 PM
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post Jun 14 2008, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(scorgio @ Jun 13 2008, 11:28 PM)
This is not funny at all.

Ekonomi Asas taught us that interest rates should be raised to counter inflation.

At the same time, our ailing economy require the people to keep spending money.

Do you think our BNM unaware of this?

They foresee such a situation already, so they roll out PIDB to take over the Govt's responsibility of guaranteeing deposit in commercial bank.

At this rate of inflation, a 1-2% increase in BLR is enough to make quite a number of people homeless.
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My friend,..... surely u are not telling me that our BNM is getting ready for a bank collapse, right ? And therefore putting in this PIDM mechanism as a way of "washing their hands off" ?

Please talk to me/us........


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post Jun 17 2008, 03:25 PM

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QUOTE(gkl83 @ Jun 17 2008, 04:14 PM)
should say developer should no to increase so much for new house pricing...
example i plan to buy RM308k house (4+1 rooms)which launched this early year...
but i decided wait for next phase house with bigger space (3+1 rooms but same design) but selling RM390k? sweat.gif
who the heck going to buy the house worth RM390k (previous phase RM308K) and our expenses for living cost increase too...
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My friends, do not buy new or under construction projects. Because when recession hits, there will be abandoned or delayed projects.

Be VERY CAREFUL in choosing the developer and the project. Trust me !!!!!!!!!!!!
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post Jun 18 2008, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(joe_mamak @ Jun 18 2008, 02:46 PM)
There are different segments of the market - the high end, mid range and low end segments, each have their own factors affecting demand and supply and also price. 

Those around KLCC still going up as there are also attractive to foreign investors.
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Another possibility is that things are hiking up in price now because of the fuel and electricity hikes, and when nobody buys the service or goods later, the prices will drop back. This is a basic concept of trade - demand and supply.

When price is too high, demand drops, supply increases, finally price will drop again.

Wait for the prices to drop - hold-off your purchases now if you can, everybody,...................
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post Jun 20 2008, 09:11 AM

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True then the place counts too, but if say, for Bangsar where the houses are fully-paid up, I don't think we can say that the prices will still appreciate during a recession. Why ?

Sure, nobody would be throwing, but if someone is to sell at a high price (thinking there would be appreciation), will there be takers, since everybody is having difficulty ? Likw what mentioned here, we can sell at whatever prices that we want, but if nobody buys, then still no point.
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post Jun 20 2008, 02:51 PM

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QUOTE(Pai @ Jun 20 2008, 10:30 AM)
Then its no longer a "property depreciation" issue, its a liquidity issue intead.

The issue during recession is always liquidity. Prices will hold but there arent  many takers around.
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Oh okay,... it's called a liquidity issue then, and not a depreciation matter. Thank you.

 

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