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 HTC Diamond LYN's Official Thread, Added rom 1.93 by HTC, post 2

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post Jun 9 2008, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(^Hobbes^ @ Jun 9 2008, 02:11 PM)
Do i turn on the Agps or turn it off?

Saw the option in Schaps Advanced Config

I know AGPS may use the GPRS for data, so if i turned it on while i rake up an enormous bill?
It took mine about 10 mins to get a fix sad.gif

I tot the Diamond came with EGPS?
But in HTC's website i oni saw AGPS?
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editted:wrong info.. refer below for eGPS and aGPS...

aj350z: i use regedit.. free and useful at all times..

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QUOTE(aj350z @ Jun 9 2008, 02:16 PM)
hey what do you guys recommend to use as a registry editor?  i know there a few out there - wanted to see what LYN forumers recommend...  thanks!
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i think it has been disscuss before la bro...but nvm la

1) memmaid( i use this one)
2) sktools
3) resco explorer that comes with the registry editor option...

well depends of ur preference actually...personally i choose memmaid due to the ease of use..and it also includes other tools as well ie:reclaim memory and a cleaner (that clean ur storage space from dead registry,bad apps link etc)



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QUOTE(aj350z @ Jun 9 2008, 02:16 PM)
hey what do you guys recommend to use as a registry editor?  i know there a few out there - wanted to see what LYN forumers recommend...  thanks!
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I am using Resco File Explorer, you may also try memaid

QUOTE(Seaedge @ Jun 9 2008, 02:32 PM)
Agps is to help you get faster fix, so if u turn it off, you might get slow fix during cold start. if i am not mistaken, Egps is the name of Agps for HTC; HP wise will be QuikGPS. It is used to download the data and it supposed to last 3 days so it wont update as often as Nokia...

aj350z: i use regedit.. free and useful at all times..
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But i cant seem to find EGPS setting for the Diamond

Wah if download data on GPRS quite expensive wor, luckily its turned off by default


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post Jun 9 2008, 02:39 PM

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if I'm not mistaken diamond also have the quick gps utility...data can be dpwnloaded via wifi no need gprs or 3g for that...FYI from cold start i can get a fix in less than 10sec...using mapking 2007 n mapking G12..
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QUOTE(damagedigital @ Jun 9 2008, 02:35 PM)
i think it has been disscuss before la bro...but nvm la

1) memmaid( i use this one)
2) sktools
3) resco explorer that comes with the registry editor option...

well depends of ur preference actually...personally i choose memmaid due to the ease of use..and it also includes other tools as well ie:reclaim memory and a cleaner (that clean ur storage space from dead registry,bad apps link etc)

if I'm not mistaken diamond also have the quick gps utility...data can be dpwnloaded via wifi no need gprs or 3g for that...FYI from cold start i can get a fix in less than 10sec...using mapking 2007 n mapking G12..
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For the reclaim memory wat does it do?
Clear your mem cache?

Have but it says expire laugh.gif
The thing about diamond is i cant seem to set it to use wifi oni, the settings all point towards ISP and no option for AP

Wa that is fast, it took mine 10 min vmad.gif


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QUOTE(^Hobbes^ @ Jun 9 2008, 02:40 PM)
For the reclaim memory wat does it do?
Clear your mem cache?

Have but it says expire laugh.gif
The thing about diamond is i cant seem to set it to use wifi oni, the settings all point towards ISP and no option for AP

Wa that is fast, it took mine 10 min vmad.gif
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yup...it's clears ur mem cache...

huh?hmpppp...u need to connect to wifi 1st the open the quickgps n then download..


Added on June 9, 2008, 2:51 pmsome tips for hard reset when needed:

to do a Hard Reset, with the phone ON, hold down the Volume Down and Enter (round navigation) keys and press soft reset while they are pressed

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QUOTE(damagedigital @ Jun 9 2008, 02:35 PM)
i think it has been disscuss before la bro...but nvm la

1) memmaid( i use this one)
2) sktools
3) resco explorer that comes with the registry editor option...

well depends of ur preference actually...personally i choose memmaid due to the ease of use..and it also includes other tools as well ie:reclaim memory and a cleaner (that clean ur storage space from dead registry,bad apps link etc)
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sorry if repeat la... smile.gif but thanks for the reply. will give memmaid a go.
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QUOTE(damagedigital @ Jun 9 2008, 02:49 PM)
yup...it's clears ur mem cache...

huh?hmpppp...u need to connect to wifi 1st the open the quickgps n then download..


Added on June 9, 2008, 2:51 pmsome tips for hard reset when needed:

to do a Hard Reset, with the phone ON, hold down the Volume Down and Enter (round navigation) keys and press soft reset while they are pressed
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Oh it automatically uses the wifi?
I dont need to set anything?

I find it scary if its on auto and not manual wink.gif
As id ont want to get a bomb at the end of the month since petrol is 2.70 per litre laugh.gif


Oh yeah abt hard reset, will it reset my contacts and sms as well?

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QUOTE(^Hobbes^ @ Jun 9 2008, 02:56 PM)
Oh it automatically uses the wifi?
I dont need to set anything?

I find it scary if its on auto and not manual wink.gif
As id ont want to get a bomb at the end of the month since petrol is 2.70 per litre laugh.gif
Oh yeah abt hard reset, will it reset my contacts and sms as well?
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if you're not connected to the wifi when u press download in quickgps it'll download the data via GPRS/3G/Edge....u need to connect to wifi 1st then press download in quickgps..

yup..hard reset will reset/wipe out everything...it will be just like when you 1st got ur diamond from the shop...(but everything i the internal memory [the 4gb ones] will still be there)
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QUOTE(damagedigital @ Jun 9 2008, 03:00 PM)
if you're not connected to the wifi when u press download in quickgps it'll download the data via GPRS/3G/Edge....u need to connect to wifi 1st then press download in quickgps..

yup..hard reset will reset/wipe out everything...it will be just like when you 1st got ur diamond from the shop...(but everything i the internal memory [the 4gb ones] will still be there)
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Ahh ic
And the weather thing it updates through internet connection right?
I find no info about wat medium it uses to update?

Same wif quickgps as well?
If wifi is on then it will dload via wifi?



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QUOTE(^Hobbes^ @ Jun 9 2008, 03:04 PM)
Ahh ic
And the weather thing it updates through internet connection right?
I find no info about wat medium it uses to update?

Same wif quickgps as well?
If wifi is on then it will dload via wifi?
Thanks man notworthy.gif
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yup it's the same deal with the quickgps...
just don't tick the option to auto update the weather..if not everytime u visit the weather tab it'll try to do an auto download...this will use ur non wifi connection if u r not on wifi at that time...

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QUOTE(damagedigital @ Jun 9 2008, 03:09 PM)
yup it's the same deal with the quickgps...
just don't tick the option to auto update the weather..if not everytime u visit the weather tab it'll try to do an auto download...this will use ur non wifi connection if u r not on wife at that time...
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LOL look at the bolded part tongue.gif

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Just to clarify some mistakes regarding for Egps and Agps i said previously.

QUOTE(wikipedia)
Enhanced GPS (or E-GPS, EGPS, trademarked as eGPS) is a technology designed for mobile phones on GSM and W-CDMA networks, to augment GPS signals to deliver faster location fixes, lower cost implementations and reduced power and processing requirements. It is being developed by CSR who has partnered with Motorola &endash; together they intend to create an open industry forum.

According to CSR, EGPS delivers a "universal positioning capability that will not only work reliably indoors and in zero GPS signal conditions, but greatly speed time to fix in poor GPS reception areas where most handsets are used." More specifically, it can "exploit data available from the cellular network to speed GPS fixes and provide complementary, fast, and reliable location sensing when GPS signals are weak or unavailable." CSR is hoping to add eGPS capabilities to handsets for under $1 per unit.

E-GPS combines CSR's "Matrix" technology with GPS – when a user initiates a location request they get a Matrix location instantly using cell tower information, accurate to within 100m. Then CSR's "Fine Time Aiding" helps the device know where to look for a GPS signal, to quickly acquire satellite information within seconds. Fine Time Aiding enables a more aggressive search and is claimed to be equivalent to 6 dB more sensitivity than can be achieved by any GPS hardware correlator in the terminal.

CSR claim that this enables software-only GPS solutions to operate reliably in all environments, and that eGPS is superior to Assisted GPS. EGPS technologies are due in 2008.
oh yeah... damagedigital, if ur gps can fix 10sec n below.. its call hotstart. coldstart usually takes near 45sec-1min. and hobbes case, its called annonymous start where it is fresh start without any data for fix. the shortest for annonymous start is 90sec and can take as long as 30min if it is not under clear sky.
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QUOTE(Seaedge @ Jun 9 2008, 03:53 PM)
Just to clarify some mistakes regarding for Egps and Agps i said previously.

QUOTE(wikipedia)
Enhanced GPS (or E-GPS, EGPS, trademarked as eGPS) is a technology designed for mobile phones on GSM and W-CDMA networks, to augment GPS signals to deliver faster location fixes, lower cost implementations and reduced power and processing requirements. It is being developed by CSR who has partnered with Motorola &endash; together they intend to create an open industry forum.

According to CSR, EGPS delivers a "universal positioning capability that will not only work reliably indoors and in zero GPS signal conditions, but greatly speed time to fix in poor GPS reception areas where most handsets are used." More specifically, it can "exploit data available from the cellular network to speed GPS fixes and provide complementary, fast, and reliable location sensing when GPS signals are weak or unavailable." CSR is hoping to add eGPS capabilities to handsets for under $1 per unit.

E-GPS combines CSR's "Matrix" technology with GPS – when a user initiates a location request they get a Matrix location instantly using cell tower information, accurate to within 100m. Then CSR's "Fine Time Aiding" helps the device know where to look for a GPS signal, to quickly acquire satellite information within seconds. Fine Time Aiding enables a more aggressive search and is claimed to be equivalent to 6 dB more sensitivity than can be achieved by any GPS hardware correlator in the terminal.

CSR claim that this enables software-only GPS solutions to operate reliably in all environments, and that eGPS is superior to Assisted GPS. EGPS technologies are due in 2008.
oh yeah... damagedigital, if ur gps can fix 10sec n below.. its call hotstart. coldstart usually takes near 45sec-1min. and hobbes case, its called annonymous start where it is fresh start without any data for fix. the shortest for annonymous start is 90sec and can take as long as 30min if it is not under clear sky.
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Yes i think i got annonymous start damm long weiii
But after it starts, i close the gps and i turn it back on, it fixed in like <5 second

Thanks for the information seaedge notworthy.gif

But i dont see any options to turn on EGPS for my Diamond sad.gif


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QUOTE(Seaedge @ Jun 9 2008, 03:53 PM)
Just to clarify some mistakes regarding for Egps and Agps i said previously.

QUOTE(wikipedia)
Enhanced GPS (or E-GPS, EGPS, trademarked as eGPS) is a technology designed for mobile phones on GSM and W-CDMA networks, to augment GPS signals to deliver faster location fixes, lower cost implementations and reduced power and processing requirements. It is being developed by CSR who has partnered with Motorola &endash; together they intend to create an open industry forum.

According to CSR, EGPS delivers a "universal positioning capability that will not only work reliably indoors and in zero GPS signal conditions, but greatly speed time to fix in poor GPS reception areas where most handsets are used." More specifically, it can "exploit data available from the cellular network to speed GPS fixes and provide complementary, fast, and reliable location sensing when GPS signals are weak or unavailable." CSR is hoping to add eGPS capabilities to handsets for under $1 per unit.

E-GPS combines CSR's "Matrix" technology with GPS – when a user initiates a location request they get a Matrix location instantly using cell tower information, accurate to within 100m. Then CSR's "Fine Time Aiding" helps the device know where to look for a GPS signal, to quickly acquire satellite information within seconds. Fine Time Aiding enables a more aggressive search and is claimed to be equivalent to 6 dB more sensitivity than can be achieved by any GPS hardware correlator in the terminal.

CSR claim that this enables software-only GPS solutions to operate reliably in all environments, and that eGPS is superior to Assisted GPS. EGPS technologies are due in 2008.
oh yeah... damagedigital, if ur gps can fix 10sec n below.. its call hotstart. coldstart usually takes near 45sec-1min. and hobbes case, its called annonymous start where it is fresh start without any data for fix. the shortest for annonymous start is 90sec and can take as long as 30min if it is not under clear sky.
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hehehe..really??i tot if u fired up ur gps for the 1st time it called coldstart??? pening2

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no no... egps is like a built in features. the one to control is quikgps. if quikgps is shown as expired, just update it with wifi if u dont want to use 3g unless u under unlimited plan.


Added on June 9, 2008, 4:07 pm[quote=damagedigital,Jun 9 2008, 04:03 PM]
oh yeah... damagedigital, if ur gps can fix 10sec n below.. its call hotstart. coldstart usually takes near 45sec-1min. and hobbes case, its called annonymous start where it is fresh start without any data for fix. the shortest for annonymous start is 90sec and can take as long as 30min if it is not under clear sky.
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hehehe..really??i tot if u fired up ur gps for the 1st time it called coldstart??? pening2
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it depends. if your 1st time start gps, it is annonymous start. but then if u already updated the egps, you can get very fast fix. but if u dont use egps, it can take quite sometime under clear sky. smile.gif

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hahaha..for my case i still confuse..coz at that point of time i haven't updated my quickgps data yet....well i guess I'm just lucky...
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i didnt use quickGPS either, and used my GPS cold start from indoors, though i sat by the window. approximately 30 seconds
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QUOTE(Baronic @ Jun 9 2008, 05:42 PM)
i didnt use quickGPS either, and used my GPS cold start from indoors, though i sat by the window. approximately 30 seconds
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That means mine is faulty?

The sensitivity thing is set to Normal
Shuld be set to High?

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