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fumoffu,Jun 11 2008, 03:28 PM]
chill chill, i just woke up peeps
dun need to talk cock when u even havent experience the fight itself. its like choosing who to interupt ROS's daeden. by theory, a lot of class can interupt. only when u experience the fight itself that u know just letting 2 rouges doing it = cake. its adds credibility. i dun think ive played that long,
but i have never meet a rouge who dps better than busbus@mc. its like when u question people ability to pvp, u question thier arena rating. its the same ball game here. so u can gtfo.
there is a saying in the internet, everybody is an expert.
so stfu if what u do all day is theorycraft without even doing it first hand. anybody with half of a brain can do that. if ya wan to theorycraft@comment how other sucks@talk cock bout others make a different thread laa. this 1 is about gear requirements for recruiting in mh/bt/sunwell! at least some of the post are being to the point.
theres wayyyyy too many factors affecting the dps. burns, setups, threat capped and like i said in my previous post, DRUMS play a big factor in the fight zzzz.and considering guilds that have bt on farmed twice or thrice longer than us still stuffing up on kalec, im quite proud of the achievement (not gloating kk?). bear in mind we did missed the enrage timer by 10s. and brut was 1 shotting half the raid during that time. we only had like 1 drummer for each group and 1 of them was the brut tank himself. so the conclusion is for sunwell, more LW = easier encounters. make it a factor on ur recruitment form kk?
its no different than saying your living in some well and and you've met the strongest frog living in said well. there are obviously better rogues out there, more so from the WWS shown. and obviously the glaive rogues.
while what you say is mostly correct on the pvp rating part, what i personally prefer is a PTR duel/match up
i mean, one can always buy p-ratings/ratings, but you cant really buy a player to play for you during a match up, or could you? but id say it'll be harder.
now what does this have to do with the pve/pvp questionings then? if i request a match up, all you need to do is copy your character from live, or even make a premade (not like it matters) and do it, get ur team/friends/guild if you prefer 2v2/3v3/5v5 over 1v1 formats.
pve on the other hand though, you need 24 other people, to go through the lower level content step by step (unless ur REALLY that good, get going a guild/raid and immediately raid BT) and the whole gearing up and recruitment process, then do the actual content itself.
in a nutshell, i would GLADLY do the content myself just to be "creditable" for the content. but alas i dont have 24 men to back me up and that sadly is what you need to conquer content, more so thant your skills or knowledge. PVP on the other hand, i can simply grab my under 10man arena team and answer any challenges that i may face and duke it out.
since i obviously dont have t5-6 content accomplishment, what does this leave me on a lousy msian forum thats pretty poor on the pvp department should i want to burn my working hours with? i bet at this point you should know the answer already.
also, if you want to talk about thread relevance, you yourself have already gone topic. HELL, in fact most, if not all of the posters here have gone off topic ever since page 4-5 ish. and for my own sake, ive stick through the topic and gave my fair share of opinions (as with others)
and it really boggles me as to why you have to be so butthurt and defend yourself so tightly when no one downplayed your guild or achievements. and i think 3 or more people on multiple posts has already mentioned multiple factors that factor the outcome of one's dps. no need to be redundant.
Added on June 11, 2008, 3:54 pmQUOTE(Kidicarus @ Jun 11 2008, 03:29 PM)
While i did say that wws is so setup dependant, you can more or less figure out how the raid is configured by looking properly at the various buffs. It's also a good way to figure out who is slacking on buffing and dpsing.
Sadly i'm too much of a geek spending wayyyyyy too much time reading wws rather than working lol
edit: dude no one is knocking your achievements. The reason why i'm commenting on your wws is because i have quite a bit of say into the raid setup and our own guild forums are filled with theorycraft on how to maximise our own raid dps. We're currently working on felmyst and like you we still tend to screw up on Kalecgos every now and then and we're only a few weeks ahead of you. So if you want to take my posts as an insult to your guild's credibility then there's very little more i can say.
Anyway progress is stalled at the moment due to the high number of dutch and swedish raiders watching the footy atm....
if you CAN spend time to read wws than working, id say its a good job
what/where ur working btw? (im looking for alternatives atm
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and hush, they havent figured it out yet. so just keep it that way. 17 pages and still going strong, im liking this
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i still dont hv warglaive
or s3 mainhand
the 1.9k dps-2.3k dps i put..i hv the same raid setup
i dont mind getting beaten on the meters tho
as long as the boss die
and it's not like i get owned by 100-200k dmg
only like ~50k only
i do top the meters...but sadly brut is not down when i top the meters
lol im not being ego
i just give possible reasons on why u were saying the rogues is just shit
since u werent there on our kill(obviously)
so i just think u shouldnt said what u dont know
plus..u were the one who said alot about the stupid meter..amirite?
p/s: btw i dont think u r excel with ur attitude either considering ur skill in pvp is good
p/s2: added sumthing...on the brut kill...he killed me right after he enraged while some other range dps still pewpew him..so yeah it does effect alot to my dps
Added on June 11, 2008, 3:44 pmwe wasnt commenting on urs
it was quaza post
well, i didnt SPECIFICALLY said ur rogues (or you) are shit, i was merely bringing up discussion on what happened, but you had to take it personal (cant be helped, your one of the rogues anyways haha)
oh hell just read through my post again, unedited at all too:
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grats! and this guy here proves blues can own meters too despite you naysayers
i have to ask though, wtf happened to ur rogues? just shit? or the hunters/mage/locks are just better than them
or just gear?
and you see, the difference between you and me is that your critisizing bout someone else's attitude, while i dont even bother to. and as a matter of fact, i even took pride in my e-thug/e-badass attitude which i would definitely exercise it to its fullest if you've ever met me in game. hope this helps
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