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 BT + Hyjal + Sunwell : Gear Requirements, Recruitment

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Sichiri
post Jun 4 2008, 02:55 PM

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This thread reminds me that I've never went pass The Lurker in SST, never even downed Lootreaver once (even after 10 attempts) let alone BT/MH/SW sad.gif

Geez I need to join a raiding guild.
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post Jun 4 2008, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(King83 @ Jun 4 2008, 01:18 PM)
Actually, i've not done Gruul yet but i don't think it's possible to bring in undergeared ppl for gruul's too.
bcos of growls.
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my guild brings ppl with green gear to gruuls with no wipe
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QUOTE(myremi @ Jun 4 2008, 02:24 PM)
join us at bogardan's restaurant saturday nite?
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hmm just checked the other thread... not too sure about my plans on saturday.
just got into an accident and my car is in the workshop, i don't think my gf would like the idea of fetching me to a WoW gathering since we've got limited "alone" time these days due to her madman of a father
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post Jun 4 2008, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(sets84 @ Jun 4 2008, 03:38 PM)
hmm just checked the other thread... not too sure about my plans on saturday.
just got into an accident and my car is in the workshop, i don't think my gf would like the idea of fetching me to a WoW gathering since we've got limited "alone" time these days due to her madman of a father
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simple, bring ur gf along.
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post Jun 4 2008, 03:50 PM

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QUOTE(King83 @ Jun 4 2008, 08:41 AM)
One thing i don't understand..............
if you're Hyjal/BT geared......................................................... why leave ur current guild ?
Obviously ur guild successfully geared you, so why leave?

Only reasons i can think of (which are all negative)
- you're a ninja
- you're not loyal

Of course, i'm not accusing u of either of those, just saying bcos i see
people leave their guilds all the time... Of course the occasional guild disband
may occur but it's very rare.... cos seriously, who would disband a BT guild??

EDIT:
It's not a recruitment shortage...
It's SW guild expecting too much.... they want a BT geared toon, but who would leave a BT guild
just for a SW guild? 'cos their guild might progress into SW themself soon.
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Genesis guild on Jubeithos
disbanded last week
4/6 SW
lol

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post Jun 4 2008, 03:54 PM

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Maybe they disbanded for AoC hmm.gif
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post Jun 4 2008, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(King83 @ Jun 4 2008, 10:58 AM)
Yes, apparently Tanks and healers make or break raids...
if your tanks and healers are over-geared, you can carry slightly undergeared dps-ers...
it just takes longer to kill things.

But if your tank is undergeared, tank will die from not able to take hits....
either that or DPS significantly outgears tank and WILL pull aggro... all choas breaks lose.

So yeah, TANK and HEALER make or break raids.
btw, L2Read....
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ya pls try this on brutallus
u sure will love it


Added on June 4, 2008, 4:02 pm
QUOTE(King83 @ Jun 4 2008, 11:51 AM)
You're in za and i'm in kara?
big deal?? Hell, if i were playing since wow beta like most u guys, i'd prolly be in SW by now.
So tell me, why aren't u guys in SW ??

name calling = bad
<insert a word here> fanboi = not bad
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i started play since 5 months b4 TBC
and im in SW
blush.gif

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post Jun 4 2008, 04:05 PM

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It depends, based on rough mathcraft, our retloldin brings about 600dps just by being in the raid even if he's slightly undergeared. But generally healers and tanks don't make the raid. You really need 100% from everyone to perform in SP.
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jun 4 2008, 12:41 PM)
aiyo this one terlampau lol. 50k pulak

and for skill > gear debate, at the end of the day it is still a scripted event minus random elements tongue.gif

a better settlement would still be gear = skill/ skill = gear and such. as there is no real way to decide which is more important
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yes i can agree witht hat
10k>50k lol
i could say that kalecgos is even harder than illidan
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Added on June 4, 2008, 4:14 pm@myremi

what i could say is
the bad thing of recruit some undergeared ppl is that
when we already geared they up to some point
they will go MIA
this is what happened to my guild quite alot
n this is the thing that pissed me off

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post Jun 4 2008, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(busbos @ Jun 4 2008, 03:57 PM)
i started play since 5 months b4 TBC
and im in SW
blush.gif
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Still long.... 5 months more than enough to get to 60 (pre-bc) then u start raid kara the same time
as these guys here. GJ on SW tho.... what's ur SW progress?

QUOTE(busbos @ Jun 4 2008, 03:57 PM)
Genesis guild on Jubeithos
disbanded last week
4/6 SW
lol
why?

I heard nocturnal (nagrand, ranked 12 horde guild SSC/TK) also disbanded.
GM ninja gbank then disband @.@
Dunno real or not.
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post Jun 4 2008, 04:52 PM

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QUOTE(busbos @ Jun 4 2008, 04:06 PM)


Added on June 4, 2008, 4:14 pm@myremi

what i could say is
the bad thing of recruit some undergeared ppl is that
when we already geared they up to some point
they will go MIA
this is what happened to my guild quite alot
n this is the thing that pissed me off
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We have had the odd 1-2 cases of something similar happening recently but the core members remains the same. Probably because we didn't spend a long time farming BT/Hyjal so the core members aren't bored yet.

Anyway, back to the topic, was wondering how other guilds deal with this shortage. Anyone else to comment?
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QUOTE(myremi @ Jun 4 2008, 04:52 PM)
Anyway, back to the topic, was wondering how other guilds deal with this shortage. Anyone else to comment?
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In my experience we would ask friends in other guild, or /who list.
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post Jun 4 2008, 06:55 PM

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too much crap in the previous pages to read through

so ill just post my thoughts here

NO

My guild only recruits people with gear that matches our progression i.e. at least 4/5 T6 (pre SW). Whats the whole point of taking an undergeared applicant if we dont even plan to go back to BT/MH? Our guild is pushing for progression, so we spend all raiding nights in SW.

Nowadays we only buy BT instance IDs up to at least council for glaives and guldan only.

But my advice if you are going to take an undergeared applicant, take a whole bunch at a time then only go on gearing runs rather than 24 people who dont need BT gear going back for 1-2 people only.







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post Jun 4 2008, 07:47 PM

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you know whats tougher than recruitment issues or even the toughest boss in the game - kil jaeden?

PETROL PRICE RM2.72
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post Jun 4 2008, 07:51 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jun 4 2008, 07:47 PM)
you know whats tougher than recruitment issues or even the toughest boss in the game - kil jaeden?

PETROL PRICE RM2.72
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Goodness gracious, at least get the petrol price right....
it's 2.70 now lah bang, naik 78 cents
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post Jun 4 2008, 08:06 PM

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i didn't read all those posts before me. so like, hey guys! wats goin on in this thread?
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post Jun 4 2008, 08:21 PM

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QUOTE(King83 @ Jun 4 2008, 07:51 PM)
Goodness gracious, at least get the petrol price right....
it's 2.70 now lah bang, naik 78 cents
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dont blame me for quoting /AS/


Added on June 4, 2008, 8:22 pm
QUOTE(flush @ Jun 4 2008, 08:06 PM)
i didn't read all those posts before me. so like, hey guys! wats goin on in this thread?
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you should. full of lulz from the poster above you.

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post Jun 4 2008, 10:53 PM

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QUOTE(King83 @ Jun 4 2008, 04:42 PM)
Still long.... 5 months more than enough to get to 60 (pre-bc) then u start raid kara the same time
as these guys here. GJ on SW tho.... what's ur SW progress?
why?

I heard nocturnal (nagrand, ranked 12 horde guild SSC/TK) also disbanded.
GM ninja gbank then disband @.@
Dunno real or not.
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oh i forgot to mention...my char is a tbc char
i only started playing 5 months b4 tbc
i started this rogue on like june-july last year?

only 1/6 SW tho
still working on brut

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QUOTE(busbos @ Jun 4 2008, 10:53 PM)
oh i forgot to mention...my char is a tbc char
i only started playing 5 months b4 tbc
i started this rogue on like june-july last year?

only 1/6 SW tho
still working on brut
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What class you play?? i wan ninja you
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QUOTE(orangbulu @ Jun 4 2008, 11:35 PM)
What class you play?? i wan ninja you
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Read his post.

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