and you can claim solidly of what i say is wrong? until then i dont see why i should stop. and its not like you've proven yourself a wholeeee lot of credibility in the past threads/posts.

i mean, solid numbers from sources like wowwiki/elitistjerks can be wrong amirite? so me reading those numbers, knowing those numbers, than based from you, supposedly thinking that i know those numbers, is wrong amirite?

its kinda saying the earth is not round because i think i know it is round. get over yourself already.

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Added on June 9, 2008, 4:11 pmyour talking bout boss parry/dodge? (expertise application) or warrior's own parry/dodge? the previous ive also mentioned it myself on previous posts, the latter though, id lol

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Added on June 9, 2008, 4:12 pmyou trying to get his armory? tough luck.

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Added on June 9, 2008, 4:15 pm1) ENCHANTING IS SRS BIZNES (seriously, some people just dont get it though lol)
2) its actually sad how blizz is allowing pre bc enchants > bc enchants. this is one example. (at least make up a tbc equalvalent version, like threat 3% )
3) FALCON PUNCHHHHHHHHHHHH http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/705661

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Added on June 9, 2008, 4:18 pmrefer to previous discussion/debate/arguement within this thread a few pages back (actually the first few pages then a post here n threre on subsequent pages)

really hard to lay the line on skill > gear, or likewise gear > skill.
each have their pro cons and it will be up to the one managing the guild/raid to pick the lesser of 2 evils based on their situation

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Jun 9 2008, 04:18 PM

ive read through the entire thread, and quite frankly, id like you to enlighten me how am i wrong in this?

lets say boss does 1 dmg, you parried/dodged that one dmg, isnt it one dmg mitigated from said boss?
of course you can go with the lol language card. howver, read up:
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/mitigation

try harder please, like you've always tried in the past

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Added on June 9, 2008, 4:34 pmi <3 RNG lol

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Added on June 9, 2008, 4:41 pmyang ini?
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.x...sh&n=Robwarrior

not bad, bulwark with almost full onslaught

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Jun 9 2008, 04:41 PM

yes i did read through the entire post that board linked, and if you've read through the definition from the link i posted, its fairly relevant.
as ive said, it, said boss will do 100 dmg, you parried/dodged that 1 dmg off, based on the definition i posted, wouldnt that mean 1 dmg mitigated off?

granted, the general term being used im in the wrong. however aside that, i dont see how i am entirely wrong as per my definition posted.

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since you did copy pasta the definitions:
1. to lessen in force or intensity, as wrath, grief, harshness, or pain; moderate.
2. to make less severe: to mitigate a punishment.3. to make (a person, one's state of mind, disposition, etc.) milder or more gentle; mollify; appease.
–verb (used without object)
4. to become milder; lessen in severity.

as per my example above, instead of 100 total dmg you'd take if it werent for parry/dodge, you take 99 after parry/dodge. so wouldnt that make the total "punishment" less severe?

to clarify, by 100 total dmg i mean over the course of the fight, not per 1 blow. as in my example the boss is basically doing 1 dmg per swing.

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Jun 9 2008, 04:54 PM

given up i take it? /QQ?

so right now instead of addressing the matter at hand ur just going random at naming everything mitigation?
well based on the general term used, "Armor should be renamed to mitigation" would be correct. however posting "The RNG that causes the DST to never drop should be renamed to mitigation." would be a lot of lulz and arent you trying not to be in the wrong here?

if im wrong i dont mind admitting. which i did as per quote:

and you've done nothing to attest to that.

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Added on June 9, 2008, 5:13 pmif its REALLY not worth your time, why are you still posting? or even posted in the first place?

true i dont past T5, but yet again it doesnt take away any right i have to post in this forum. you can agree/disagree what ive posted and thats that
just like how ive agree/disagree other people's posts, or your posts for that matter.

being a RL/GL, or even arena TL, like it or not i do have to have decent knowledge/experience with every single class. if you accused me of specifically having poor experience with said class being discuss specifically in pve, i dont have a problem admitting to that and rest my case. but your stepping on the line where i do have more than enough experience of all 9 classes in pvp and to an extent pve. if you wanna go on with that its fine by me either, however based on your stance of not wasting time for me, ill prolly not hold my breath on that.

again, if im REALLY all that defensive, i wouldnt be opened up discussions or even have small talks and just go king83 mode. as many pointed out im prolly offensive in my posts but as ive replied, it only makes things interesting as obviously there will be idiots such as you who bites it. its really up to one's perspective if i would be just discussing, trolling, or just flaming. though likewise, your not doing ANY better than my posts either.
as for proof, i believe ive at least decently attached "proof" or at least some material to back up my claims, instead of going on a random fest like biatch0 did

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Jun 9 2008, 05:13 PM

then how come you just quoted the definition yourself, and even made your own examples, if apparently your not trying to be correct? a little hypocritical dont you think? if im as much as disapproving everything i wouldnt just go around and say im in the wrong for mistaking the general term of mitigation being used now would i? and of course myself supposedly discrediting myself, considering what your saying here.

of course, there isnt much reason for one to attest to anything, but fact is you already did, no? and more so even doing it in the very post reply

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ok you've made an addin edit, which makes it all the more interesting




umm.... yea. lol.

well, ill take what you've said as a compliment then, as likewise your providing just as much entertainment as i need during long hours of work. its thread like theses that makes the day fly by without notice

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if anything, considering its most likely where this thread's direction is heading, IN BEFORE:


This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Jun 9 2008, 05:29 PM

macro binding

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Added on June 9, 2008, 5:40 pmnot mine if ur referring to me (considering its a reply to my post)
its assumingly boardwarrior's, if its really him. (which boggles me why he wouldnt just link his armory anyways considering hes t6 with epic gems, nothing to lose anyways. well, maybe the arena ratings? )

and do merge ur posts (uncheck do not continue with previous post checkbox) unless ur gonna thread bump, which this thread obviously doesnt need any bumping

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Jun 9 2008, 05:40 PM

well i didnt said its 100% him. pretty much just assumptions, which doesnt hold anything solid anyways. nothing against that robwarrior guy if hes boardwarrior or not. really.

ouch.........

is it even possible? especially the naked part. lu apa class?

perhaps i did make myself look like a fool, perhaps not? most likely due to how board/biatch0 are being such awesome players are playing themselves in
regardless, all in the sake of keeping this thread alive, which im sure everyone has a share of the pie that they dig every now and then

as for ur guild, perhaps look into a transfer? no surprise on such turn of events anyways. mmo-champ just posted forte's disbandment.
DNT, well post BC they arent exactly shining that well, but forte, (you may claim RNG) being world first illi blade guild, just gone with one announcement, pretty hard to believe myself.

well, if all else fails, theres always welfare PVP LOL!

p/s: ur line seperations are a bit overboard and the 2 idiots quoting ur post without spoilering them in a row just dragged this thread quite a bit lol. (like, a loooong quote, with a 1 liner )
well, not that im innocent of said crimes anyways, but still

why domo arigatou.

they downed HKM, if the groups really that bad i doubt it can happen? lol still hard to believe

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Added on June 10, 2008, 7:37 amthread's still alive, 14 pages and going strong, im all in LOL!

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Added on June 10, 2008, 7:46 amwell, i didnt expect you'd put up so many lines considering what you've said.

but really, if you look into WoW forums, your no different than those level 1 alts trash talking. if said level 1 alt is just providing information like creating some info thread or something no one gives a damn bout it to demand credibility like "go post on your main noob". But the moment said level 1 alt starts to trash talk, like you are doing right now, you'd expect that to hit your face sooner or later, if you cant provide any form of solid credibility, its pretty given your words will be taken lightly like it or not. Thats just how life and how our nature of "first impression judgement" goes, just like your job interviews and all, you dont just walk in and claim you got a damn degree/masters without even providing a copy of it to show to those that are interviewing you right? i mean yeah, you can go your all one quality worker and all, but your not really convincing at all, at the very least not in my book. I believe we've gone through this quite a number of times and ur still unaware of the situation that your put into, oh wells, a little tiresome going through the same thing again so ill leave it at that for now

as for idiots in sunwell, im not really surprised. i mean, PVE is hard amiright? i believe theres a TON of mockery being done from the pvp world to the pve world, while like wise not many from the pve world has put in much dent to the pvp world. if you've read up mmo-champ/WOM you'd know what im talkin bout anyways
its only natural, fighting against human players that doesnt have static patterns is definitely different than scripted encounters lmao.

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Added on June 10, 2008, 7:49 amif its AOC, who knows if the coming months they'd return LOL!
"so ur back?"
"yeah, AOC is fun and all with the bewbs, but yeah, WoW ftw"

im sure this isnt the first time this happened to your guild? could just stick it through anyways. just a "normal" thing to happen in a lot of raiding guild nowadays. some people blame the casualness of TBC, some just blame blizz for lack of contents and all. theres always blames being thrown.

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Jun 10 2008, 07:49 AM

rotten analogy you say? perhaps, but thats in our human nature when it comes to the first impression judgements. lets say i dont even have my armory up and go claiming im raiding t6 and all, would you still be able to come down on me saying i have no pve credibility? i doubt. just like how it'll go down should you have any pvp claims, which in the past you attempted to but considering you have nothing to back your claims minus the "lol ur bg is terribad" card (heck i even went as far as offering a PTR duel be it 1v1/2v2/3v3/5v5, which you blantantly turned me down ), your immediately brushed off just like that.

and on the human nature subject, what is mmo made up of? whats the MAIN factor that drives a success of an mmo? yes, its the people, the community itself. hell, since you are in the pve field, do you REALLY think your "reaction", your "skills" and knowledge etc played the MAIN role in your guild's success? no, its the people in the guild, that worked together, that sticked through the rough tides, that endured all those wipes, that pulled the final successes. yes, the main factor of any pve guild out there is the people relationship - recruitment (which is in relative terms on say, a RL job interview), getting that 25 man together, and working together to tackle a content.

sure, WoW isnt SRSBIZNESS job like RL, that you work to make a living of, that you HAVE to earn an income to sustain your liftstyle. but think about it, doesnt hardcore guilds, that are in the forefront of progression, take WoW as serious as a job itself, or even more sometimes? you can easily relate internship with trial period of an app, or even the learning process, like your primary school educations/diploma educations, to a 5man/heroic instance. NO ONE comes into WoW knowing every damn thing. You take your time to gather experience, read up formulas and numbers and so forth.

as for the RL interviewing. sure, you can be ALL idealist you want, by saying you can prove your skills etc. etc. but cruel fact is, unless you got REALLY good connections with said company, you still need a damn paper to at least be able to get an interview going. look up the papers, look at most (if not all) of the IT (or any job for that matter) jobs and tell me whats the first thing you'll prolly come across. thats right, some form of degree/diploma/certification requirements. i mean yeah, you can go all "interviewers are crap if they cant see through my 1337 skillz and rejected me cuz i have no official papers" but thats how the world works. trust me, i used to think EXACTLY like you, but after actually stepping out the world and enter the working field, i know well how wrong i was. perhaps you actually DID got a damn good job without needing any papers, if so, good for you. but for everyone else, its usually not the case.

lastly, i did mean that in a questionative way, no sarcasm at all. sure i may or may not be a fool, but at the end of the day, considering the ammount of posts ive made in this thread, what makes you think id actually care? (im sure most if not all of the other forumers know well of this that i spend my time here in this WoW sub-forum to burn time at work) So long it serves my objective/purpose, im happy with it, in which i am. If you want my general opinion bout this? some people just care too damn much.

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Added on June 10, 2008, 9:28 amyou cant possibly /popcorn by going tldr and alt tab back to wow

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Jun 10 2008, 09:28 AM

should pity the guy for having his pocket watch ninja'ed by a rogue. if anything. lol

naw, nothing bitter from my part. all in good fun, at least from me.

well, who knows if who has the upper hand, it is the internuts after all.
go kopi-pasta emoticon:
┐(’～`；)┌

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Added on June 10, 2008, 10:35 amif ur not gonna tell me again bout whatever it is why did you repeatedly continue to do so, seriously wakarimasenlol right there.

not gonna lie, i am in fact defending a supposedly rotten information. supposedly now requiring proper qualifications/educations to land job interviews are rotten information now, oh wells i sure am behind times
considering i am working right now in the IT field, supposedly i also established that i merely think i knew what im talking about despite going through the whole interview process and what not right? i supposed bad luck to me then?

really though, if ur specifically just pointing my 25man pve, tanking information or whatever i REALLY dont mind admitting my lack of knowledge in regards to those area. but right now apparently your even pointing towards my RL experience of what it takes to get a job that im lacking experience of despite the fact that i am working for almost 2 years in the IT field (my office is a Plaza sentral maxis building, beside kl sentral, feel free to drop by and say hello) is quite a joke if you ask me.

For the PTR duel, trollbait or not, you still backed down on a challenge that you have NOTHING to lose, besides your inflated ego and pride. and on the internet, i seriously dont think its worth much anyways. I mean, what does a BG's worth (BG 9 or BG scrub) has anything to do with this challenge? or being a better way to judge? if im from a scrub bg while ur on an awesome bg, and supposedly i own you, what does that say then? doesnt this makes YOUR supposedly UBER BG look terribad? that a supposedly terribad guy from some terribad BG just owned someone from a cool kids BG.

you really got to get over youself already lol.

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Added on June 10, 2008, 10:36 amthink we've been through that for the past 2-3 pages, but thanks for repeating the same information again lol...

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Jun 10 2008, 10:36 AM

was that renaming intentional, or by accident

QFT!!!

though the biggest depression/despair is still the recent fuel hike...

REPOST:

you forgot:




sir!

lol request 10min buffs from paladins, fark the 2 noobs or whoever they are. or better yet, tell em to L2P or GTFO

as far as mages go, they could give you a run for your money if they arent terribads. (goin spell hit to cap or near cap instead of pure spell dmg is one simple example)
i mean, for the MOST part, especially if they're frost, all they do is spam ONE button. SERIOUSLY 1 button - frostbolt.

true that, main reason imo is due to their hit rating requirement where as classes like hunter dont even need to care about it, and warlock do insane dmg from their talents/heavy spell dmg scaling to not even need spell hit as oppose to mages.

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Added on June 10, 2008, 6:13 pmthey only really need shadow priest for mana (lol no lifetap), elem sham for totems/lust, and most importantly, boomkin aura LOL! (mages does have an edge on critting spells compared to locks minus improved shadow bolt proc buffs)

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Jun 10 2008, 06:13 PM