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post Jun 30 2008, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(hackwire @ Jun 28 2008, 09:08 PM)
bro, i like to visit your place..
like to test your sound system.

the sunlight on top is a turn off. can u block it with something. i think i have a solution for u.

by the way, i have this trouble calibrating for the right colour and contrast. Due to the DVD and PS3 im using. i kept going forward and backward adjusting the colour , brightness and contrast.

My question is whether i should use the DVD remote control to calibrate or use the projector remote control? or both? if use projector remote to calibrate the,colour and contrast , the dvd picture quality may have to calibrate again. Is there a Saving for different customization in the PRojector>
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Normally just adjust on your projector. Most projector should have a profile, so you can save profile 1 for PS3 Blu-ray, profile 2 for PS3 DVD etc... I use 2 profile for my PC, one is for range 16-235 and another for 0-255.
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post Aug 27 2008, 03:15 PM

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[quote=on9,Aug 25 2008, 12:20 PM]
[quote=silbii,Jul 3 2008, 01:00 PM]
my first impression on this pj is that the blacks are not as good as my old 4805...but maybe i havent really found the correct setting to get good blacks...

Below is the reason why you cant get a deep black from HD65 compare with Infocus SP4805:

1. HD65 dont have color processor like 4805 sort of DCDi Farouja chip. It using software(AI) rather than hardware(DCDi Chip) to improve depthness of contrast & color .

Infocus will come out with new model X9. http://www.projectorcentral.com/InFocus_Home-Play_Big_X9.htm.
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Have you tune your pj? I found out after tuning, the black is deeper and color especially skin tone is more accurate. Anyway, I'm using BENQ PE7700. Might upgrade next year if DLP DC4 1080p drop to around RM 13k.

Anyway, I'm using Spyder2 colorimeter with Calman v3 for tuning. The tuning is different than AVIA or DVE as you can tune greyscale and gamma + correct way to measure tint/saturation which affect your primary and secondary color. You need to access service menu to tune RGB Gain/Cut/Gamma. Manage to get Delta E below 3 for IRE 30 to 80.
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post Sep 2 2008, 10:18 AM

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QUOTE(mys_terious @ Aug 30 2008, 12:32 AM)
wah so mahal 1 ah.. last time i saw in xtreme ppl selling i think sg300 for spider3 but didnt dare to buy coz takut dont know how to use
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Anyone interested in Spyder2 + Calman v3 (license copy)? I'm thinking to upgrade to Optic Pro Spectrometer. I'm selling for RM 700. Calman is easy to use with their step to step contrast/brightness setup, greyscale, primary and secondary color adjustment.
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post Sep 3 2008, 09:48 AM

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QUOTE(lohlm56 @ Sep 2 2008, 09:28 PM)
Yours is cheaper than me , the different is my rockwool is above the frame then wrapped with fabric . also back is hollow and doesnt cover with plywood.


Added on September 2, 2008, 9:37 pm
DO you interested to diy diffusors , may be we can share how to diy.
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Guys, make sure the back is hollow. And float your panel from the wall with at least 2" gap. The reason for this design is to double the effectiveness of your panel. The sound will travel pass the panel in first pass, reflect back by the wall (reduce sound wave) and go through the panel for 2nd pass. I found a lot of reference from internet. Will take the picture of my panel if anyone is interested on how to float the panel. I just screw in 4 x 2" aluminium tube with rubber feet at 4 corners and hang it on the wall like picture frame. This will allow you to arrange the panel in the most flexible way. If you feel it is over absorb, just shift or reduce the panel to experiment.

Bass trap at 4 corner is a must. The bass is control and deep.

Diffusor actually can get it quite cheap from hiwaylaser. Around RM 150 per piece.
http://www.hiwaylaser.com/diffuser


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post Sep 3 2008, 04:05 PM

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QUOTE(lohlm56 @ Sep 3 2008, 11:12 AM)
my panells are floated on the frame and back is hollow and consider as bass trap , can you put picures of aluminium tube with rubber feets at 4 corners , i am thinking of screw 4 pcs of solid block of woods and hang it.
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Here's some picture of bass trap (I installed for all 4 corners), first reflection point absorber and the rubber feet to float the panel.

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post Sep 3 2008, 05:16 PM

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QUOTE(ycs @ Sep 3 2008, 05:04 PM)
pierreye, nice room setup.

where is your equipment hiding? In the front wall?
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Thanks. I ask the carpenter to create a frame 3 feet from wall. Then wrap the frame with speaker cloth. All equipment is hidden behind the frame (front speaker, center speaker, receiver, htpc, sub). The panel below the screen can be open to access to the equipment.
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post Sep 4 2008, 08:26 AM

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I'll take some photo today for "behind the scene" equipment.

As for the panel, you need the triangle wood at the corner to hold the frame and the panel. Just screw the aluminium tube and rubber feet on the triangle. For hanging it's simple. Just screw a nail in the wall, and hang it like a picture frame.

Actually the back of the screen is not painted black. The whole panel at the back of the screen is frame wrap with speaker cloth (so that I can see my equipment in the dark and also accoustically transparent for speaker). My screen is 114" brilliant white Carada fixed screen. I previously use motorized screen for my old HT room and wrinkle is the major problem So I advise all of you to go for fixed screen if possible.

I'm thinking of getting diffusor for the back wall either using hanging bookshelf method or just buy from hiwaylaser. Reason I didn't paint the front side wall black is it looks ugly. Anyway, from my experience as long as you have thick enough black border, it's fine. Also, remember to use matte paint for your wall. Don't use Pearl Glo paint. You need to sit at least 5 ft from the diffusor for it to be effective.

As for the height, the screen is 3 ft from the floor as I need to place my center speaker below the screen. So far, no problem watching movie on the first row of the sofa. Second row sofa is perfect. I'm thinking to change the first row sofa to a 3 seats recliner chair with arm rest + cup holder.

You can get semi rigid fiberglass from www.polyglass.com.my. Those that you get from aircon installer is too soft and density might not be ideal.

My advice is room treatment is important. My previous HT room is not treated and only with thick curtain on both side to absorb the sound reflection. I can only watch movie at maximum 85db. In the new theater room, 95db is still comfortable and everything is under control.

Update on automation:
If you see the picture of my switch, there is 3 blue lighted button switch. That's a Senzo switch (developed by local company, http://www.newict.com/) which accept IR, RF and programmable switch. I use Logitech harmony one to do the macro programming as follow:

Enter Theater activity: Light and Aircon switch on.
Watch Movie: Light turn off, projector/receiver/sub turn on. If I pressed pause button, the light will turn on. Press play, light will turn off.

I love Harmony Remote but take me one whole day to get the programming right.

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post Sep 4 2008, 12:57 PM

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QUOTE(rthj @ Sep 4 2008, 11:45 AM)
at least the harmony remote does it right, some never do.....which harmony are you using?
1remote to rule 'em all.....
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Harmony one. It's quite intelligent as if some of your equipment is not turn on, with a help button, it'll give you step by step troubleshoot guide.

Best combination of touch screen + keypad.
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post Sep 4 2008, 03:40 PM

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QUOTE(lohlm56 @ Sep 4 2008, 03:21 PM)
one end is rubber feet , how to screw it to the wall ? insert the rubber feet into the wall' screw hole? can u enlarge the screw of the wall. Tq.
i am thinking to screw a block of wood on the wall then hand the bass trap ( bass trap 's back is hollow) ,pls comment
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You don't screw the rubber feet to the wall. The rubber feet is just pushing your panel 2" from the wall. You only screw a nail into your wall and hang your panel. Just pull a wire across your panel around 1/4 measure from the top of your panel height. I'll take some picture tonight.
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post Sep 4 2008, 06:51 PM

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QUOTE(htkaki @ Sep 4 2008, 06:28 PM)
that's very informative. Tks a lot, pierreye. I think need to get my carpenter to quote this to me. But, need to translate this info to him in cantonese and show him the photos here. Hope he gets the idea of it.
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Ha... I need to show him the step by step picture and some sketch I do to make him understand what I want. Anyway, here is the photo promised earlier:

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QUOTE(ycs @ Sep 4 2008, 07:43 PM)
pierreye, very tidy and clean set-up. unfortunately i don't have the space for this but am working out something for my front wall-hope it turns out well.

btw, how is your bass trap fixed?
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Bass trap a little bit tricky. You need to get your carpenter nail it at four corner of your panel to your wall. Then use black silicon to glue up the edge.
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QUOTE(megatron007 @ Sep 12 2008, 11:33 AM)
very nice room...but the view distance vs the screen size abit small sad.gif

also too high like sitting a few row infront from screen
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View distance is around 1.4x. My screen is around 8' width and seating distance is close to 11'. Can't go bigger as it'll block the access to the side door. The screen height is 3' from the floor. I just change my sofa to 3 seated recliner chair and I'll say the height is just nice when you recline the chair. Using HTPC, I had no problem too when sit up straight as I can use Media Player Classic to move wide screen movie to the bottom of the screen.

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The recliners are not expensive. RM 2.6k for half leather and RM 3.3k for full leather.
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post Sep 13 2008, 08:22 AM

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QUOTE(ycs @ Sep 13 2008, 07:53 AM)
is it 2.6k for 3 recliners?
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Yes. You can actually choose the no of seats required.
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post Sep 13 2008, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(mys_terious @ Sep 13 2008, 09:08 AM)
jenama apa dan mana beli... i have finally checked out lazy boy chair.. full leather 1 seater round rm2500..  very very comfy with 10 years warranty.. but of course if for the price can get the 3 seaters recliners like yours even better.,
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Get it from one of the furniture shop in Penang. Manufacturer is from KL and the shop owner show me the catalog of all type of recliner chair. Lazy boy is currently under promo, single seat should be around RM 1500. But their 3 seaters cost around RM 15k!!!
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QUOTE(mys_terious @ Sep 13 2008, 11:25 AM)
bro can u tell me where is having promo for lazy boy? harvey norman?.. coz i live in alor setar n i need to call up n confirm b4 i leave my ulu hometown to buy in pg
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My friend saw it in Harvey Norman penang in JJ. Better give them a call first before you come to Pg. He mentioned 5 years warranty.


Added on September 13, 2008, 2:48 pm
QUOTE(mys_terious @ Sep 13 2008, 02:35 PM)
and the king seat is likely to belong to the queen:)
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King sit in the middle. queen sit on the left and I wish concubine at the right. But then this would be my last post. rclxm9.gif

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[quote=mys_terious,Sep 13 2008, 02:59 PM]
[quote=pierreye,Sep 13 2008, 02:43 PM]
My friend saw it in Harvey Norman penang in JJ. Better give them a call first before you come to Pg. He mentioned 5 years warranty.

bro sorry to ask what is 'jj'... really wish i can own a lazyboy.. tested in kl harvey.. linpek really like it.. but in kl the cheapest is rm1900 fabric surface but all display set will get 20 percent off so the cheapest fabric display set is rm1520 after 20 percent discount
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JJ = Jaya Jusco.
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QUOTE(myqd @ Sep 13 2008, 05:04 PM)
HD65 is not for u la,u re at the level of HD803 or Panny AE-3000  brows.gif
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Or get BENQ W5000. With dual iris technology, it's a better machine then HD803. I'm really interested in this unit just that you need to import from US. Singapore selling around RM 11k but US is only USD 2050 around RM 7k. Been follow the thread on this machine in avsforum and latest news is 2.01 firmware will allow full ISF settings including CMS.
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If u like DLP film like image and smooth fast action screen, 1080p and below 10k, then BENQ W5000 is your only choice. The black level is close to DC3 due to the Dynamic Iris. Latest news is the firmware 2.01 allow full ISF tuning in the menu and most of the feedback is this unit can achieve perfect D65 and hit all primary color at the correct position.
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QUOTE(toytoy @ Sep 15 2008, 02:08 AM)
A big thanks to htkaki for letting me audition the hd65. Honestly i m impressed with the image quality and my gf who does not believe 'big picture can be clear' was equally impressed if not more hehe.

Problem is with the rainbow effect. Me and my gf were one of the unlucky ones who can see rainbow. But it was at the beginning that I've noticed very strong rainbow effect. During the later part of the audition I m not sure whether i've got used to it or i forgot to notice 'coz bz looking at good quality pictures hehe'

Is it possible to be cured from the rainbow thingy or can the eye adjust itself to get used to the effect?

Anyway i'll be joining this big family next month 'hopefully'. Now have to find screen , keep money for ps3 and htsf2300 + BDs hehehe. Headache, headache. biggrin.gif

Once again thanks everyone who has helped me and a big thanks to htkaki for letting me audition a few tvs and his precious hd65 hehe.
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Normally if you sit too close and you have to move your eyes around to watch movie, you are more prone to rainbow effects. Normally occur in scene with high brightness object in dark background.


Added on September 15, 2008, 9:58 am
QUOTE(rthj @ Sep 15 2008, 03:15 AM)
no rainbow effect= 3LCD pj
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Or wait for the new LED DLP system from TI. It'll eliminate the color wheel which is the source of rainbow effects.

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