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post Jun 19 2019, 05:31 PM

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1 year already...
Still at 9.00

Compared to 2008. 7.00

+2 only.

Guess that finance sector now isn't robust as b4 anymore
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post Jun 20 2019, 07:49 AM

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QUOTE(Cubalagi @ Jun 19 2019, 08:06 PM)
During the Global Financial Crisis in 2009, it dropped below RM4. And if you bought it then, 10 years ago, you would have got more than RM5 in dividends, in addition to capital gain.
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You can't time so nice.

How if you buy at 10 at 9? Correct?


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post Jun 21 2019, 01:11 PM

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QUOTE(Jordy @ Jun 20 2019, 11:01 AM)
Banking stock is boring as they do not require much capex. So they would usually distribute up to 70% of their income to shareholders. Since there is not much growth story in the banking industry, expect the price to be stagnant.
Plus with the entry of so many disruptors now, it caused more competition in the financing field. Margins will have to be cut, more and more sophisticated investments coming up forcing banks to increase their cost of loan.
We should be lucky that the price is still holding up despite all these "bad" news. Pray that the price stays the same (while we continue receive above 6% DY). Any further deterioration in the stock price will just force us to keep topping up.
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jun 20 2019, 11:18 AM)
Currently, banking stocks are like yield play.

Room for upside is limited by slow loan growth and low interest rate environment.
Banks earning improvement only can come from
1. More loan given out
2. NIM (Net interest margin) expansion.

1) Economy slow down, hence less loan needed, loan growth projected likelyhood in the region of 5% +/-.  So the likelyhood of dramatically increase of profit is low.

2) NIM won't see widening as cost of fund may not cheap for banks due to slow deposit growth.

So banking stocks generally are likelyhood to be traded at range bound tightly.
As current pricing is not that expensive, some banking stocks yield can be better than FD rate.
But upside is limited due to risk of NPL and stagnant earning figure.

This is not limited to Malaysia banking stocks, but many worldwide banks across. Many banking stocks are lagging the market.

PS: I won't be complaining if the stocks price is stagnant, while getting 6% annually.
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QUOTE(Jordy @ Jun 20 2019, 11:33 AM)
Yup, thank you for concurring with my views bro. You provided an extended explanation of what I have in mind. Couldn't have agreed more notworthy.gif
I wouldn't mind too if I could keep getting 6% yield (or possibly higher yield if I could lower down my average cost) icon_rolleyes.gif
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Thanks for the essential input.

maybe times has changed


banking stocks isn't cap appreciation and div anymore... look at RHB and CIMB.... I think some holders only enough to breakeven only after getting dividend.

besides, Jordy, the CF coffee son very hebat, open one hipster café liao LOL!! Name See you Latte. Still remember that day we mention his shop? Wow. LOL Earn so much owh. ahah

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post Jun 21 2019, 01:13 PM

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QUOTE(Cubalagi @ Jun 20 2019, 02:26 PM)
Tough luck for them if they buy at RM10. Someone even bought at RM10.80 last year. Right after GE.. But that's the stock market for u. Entry n exit points are the next most important thing after stock selection.

In my case, I exited completely KLSE stocks after GE. This year started go back into stocks. First into Reits early in year. When index fell to 1600 last month, that's a signal for me to look into blue chip dividend stocks.
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I think that our KLCI bottom should be around 14xx to 155x. Now indeed most of the capital now are mostly local, since the foereign outflow is so massive for the past few months. So yea, buying blue chip now is the best time. MBB is one of them smile.gif
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post Jul 4 2019, 07:07 PM

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Banking sector now facing a lot of challenge compare to the past. Esp the rising of ewallet and the reducing benefit for CC user. Let alone the deteriorate of loan segments.

And if counter like this isn't have constant capital appreciation, also if they able to steadily give our 6% in the long run we are at lost... and how if they slowly decreasing div due to challenging environment and their share price tank bit by bit....

"Seems" like they are losing out to reits....

My opinion... Nevertheless, banking sector will always be darling of anyone... Everyone.....
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post Jul 4 2019, 10:31 PM

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QUOTE(Yggdrasil @ Jul 4 2019, 08:36 PM)
I don't understand how e-wallet will replace banks.
Banks give credit and that's something e-wallet can never do.
Banks can also venture into e-wallet. CIMB owns part of TnG and TnG has it's e-wallet.

Banks might close some physical branches. This might improve profitability through reduced expenses. But banks will never close all branches because some customers need to be physically there to sign documents or prefer traditional banking. There are some customers today who don't trust online banking.
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ewallet cant replace bank but it impact bank. many youngster nowadays see no potential in CC. and CC one of the main thing in bank.
market share for CC drop while ewallet rise.

at the mean time, RT technical review are bullish on maybank. They think people oversold it



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post Jul 8 2019, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Jul 8 2019, 04:01 PM)
if u feel it's worth then just go by batch..

if up. u profit. down lower.. then buy another batch to average down  biggrin.gif
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Ini bahaya. Lol. If go down 800 mah jialat.
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post Jul 9 2019, 08:52 AM

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QUOTE(Cubalagi @ Jul 9 2019, 01:16 AM)
RM8 baru 10% loss from current price. That's nothing..

Try..

RM7.50 (lowest 5 year price, in 2016)

Rm3. 44 (lowest 10 year price, during Global Financial crisis 2009)

RM1.50 (lowest ever, Asian Financial crisis in 1998).

Baru takut... 😅

But Maybank has always rebounded back to RM10+.. So far at least. N always resumed to pay good dividends, after short hiccup.
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I don't want join 1st. Takut. Drop 10% they give 6% divvy also tarak cover.

DeuBank just jialat. So similar with 08 lol. If got 2nd bank layoff, I will run liao
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post Jul 9 2019, 05:01 PM

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QUOTE(Yggdrasil @ Jul 9 2019, 01:34 PM)
Buy when people takut, sell when people greedy
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Now this principal macam kenot pakai liao

Most of the counter in KLCI jatuh ad tarak up. Since q1 2019.

Need think twice.
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post Jul 18 2019, 09:36 PM

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52 week low.

Jit pai ho seh liao.

Last week baru say mbb will lead bursa charge to 1700.


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post Jul 19 2019, 09:32 PM

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QUOTE(Jordy @ Jul 19 2019, 01:23 PM)
Can start to top up if price touch 8.80 (which is very possible with the current situation).
Been waiting eagerly for way too long brows.gif
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wait more. can go lower. haha
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post Jul 23 2019, 06:45 PM

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QUOTE(Jordy @ Jul 23 2019, 05:54 PM)
Damn, I didn't call my remisier to help me queue at 8.80! The support at 8.82 and 8.83 was quite strong in the morning. Stayed at KPJ for the whole day for follow up with doctor after lunch, so missed the 8.80 intraday doh.gif

Hope tomorrow got chance to buy in some at 8.80, this time I will queue from morning, no more waiting bruce.gif

Anyone of you got it at 8.80 today?
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Later see see 850
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post Jul 25 2019, 07:55 AM

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QUOTE(zero47 @ Jul 25 2019, 12:38 AM)
Hi Yggdrasil,

I also looked at CIMB as it seems cheap on paper.

My take is I can't find what's compelling about CIMB though - it seems to me they over-expanded with very little to show for it... a bit all over the place. To borrow from Taleb, Banking is a Extremistan industry, where the big grow bigger. There's very little point being No. 8 in Thailand, for example.

CIMB's ROE is also very low, and has high bad loan formation... My short take is CIMB lacks discipline. They've promised a lot, but the delivery is really lethargic.

I like Maybank for its Islamic segment, mostly. Etiqa could be a nice wildcard bonus. What I don't like is the continuous share dilution with its DRP.

Other than Maybank, I have BIMB on my radar as well - again, Islamic is growing very strongly and has high efficiency and low bad loan formation - perhaps the threat of hellfire is very effective.
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I hold both MBSB and takaful. Looking into BIMB too. Last earnimg was good.
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post Jul 26 2019, 09:39 AM

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QUOTE(bmwcaddy @ Jul 26 2019, 09:24 AM)
What's going on btw? Why is it in such a bad downtrend?
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Sentiments is playing really strong lately.
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post Jul 26 2019, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(Jordy @ Jul 26 2019, 09:45 AM)
I believe it is the common fear that BNM would be cutting interest rates further down. All banks were affected. We'll just have to wait for BNM's announcement to calm the market.
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Next week fed meeting too.
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post Jul 26 2019, 01:05 PM

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QUOTE(Jordy @ Jul 26 2019, 12:26 PM)
Any decisions out from the FOMC meeting will not affect of our economy as we are independent. If there is any movement in our stock market due to their decisions, it will just be a short-term reaction to the movement in NYSE. While generally traders could accept a small cut in interest rate, but a bigger than expected cut would send jitters into the financial markets. Again, any interest rate movement in US will not affect the profitability of our local banks in a big way. We are more concerned about our own OPR which will have direct effect on the margin of our banks.
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Hmm I thought BNM movement always related to fed? As well as other central bank? Looks like I mistakenly thought.
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post Jul 26 2019, 10:54 PM

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QUOTE(Yggdrasil @ Jul 26 2019, 09:25 PM)
Just bought Takaful today but lost money sad.gif I think it's because they didn't give dividend (not sure why).
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Enter at 600... Should have sell at 700... T.T


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post Jul 31 2019, 01:43 PM

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finance index down again.
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post Jul 31 2019, 05:04 PM

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Jialat.

My takaful mbsb rhb all leading loss.

Cry no tears.

Mbb touch 868 today.

Wahh
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post Aug 2 2019, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(Yggdrasil @ Aug 2 2019, 02:11 AM)
RIP Banking stocks tomorrow morning.
Trump forcing more rate cut.
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GG.....

Want buy no money.

Want sell lost money.

Want cry no tears.

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